Weight gain this week :(

sandradev1

Taking a break....to eat junk food.....how can that be good for you.

Who said anything about eating junk food? Taking a break means taking a break from calorie deficit, and eating at maintenance calories with your regular food. Gives your leptin and ghr elin and chance to reset/

Apologies for that comment, I think I was speaking personally. Since starting this I have changed to eating whole, clean and healthy foods and most days I have trouble eating enough to get to my 1400/1500 target. I can eat so much more actual food than what I used to eat. I sometimes find myself making up calories with plain biscuits or snack a jacks because I cannot face anymore veg, tuna etc. Therefore for me to increase my calories would probably mean having to revert to the junk food I used to eat which I don't want to.

If anyone out there has any ideas of foods that are high in calories, still healthy and are small in portion size, please share for those of us who are being told to eat more to lose weight.

As for my small weight gain, at 56 yrs its not PMS :blushing: lol and always weight in the buff its the only way to go :laugh:

mockchoc

Taking a break....to eat junk food.....how can that be good for you.

Who said anything about eating junk food? Taking a break means taking a break from calorie deficit, and eating at maintenance calories with your regular food. Gives your leptin and ghr elin and chance to reset/

Apologies for that comment, I think I was speaking personally. Since starting this I have changed to eating whole, clean and healthy foods and most days I have trouble eating enough to get to my 1400/1500 target. I can eat so much more actual food than what I used to eat. I sometimes find myself making up calories with plain biscuits or snack a jacks because I cannot face anymore veg, tuna etc. Therefore for me to increase my calories would probably mean having to revert to the junk food I used to eat which I don't want to.

If anyone out there has any ideas of foods that are high in calories, still healthy and are small in portion size, please share for those of us who are being told to eat more to lose weight.

As for my small weight gain, at 56 yrs its not PMS :blushing: lol and always weight in the buff its the only way to go :laugh:

Nuts/seeds, avocado, full fat dairy, healhy oils, whole eggs, nut butters..

sandradev1

Taking a break....to eat junk food.....how can that be good for you.

Who said anything about eating junk food? Taking a break means taking a break from calorie deficit, and eating at maintenance calories with your regular food. Gives your leptin and ghr elin and chance to reset/

Apologies for that comment, I think I was speaking personally. Since starting this I have changed to eating whole, clean and healthy foods and most days I have trouble eating enough to get to my 1400/1500 target. I can eat so much more actual food than what I used to eat. I sometimes find myself making up calories with plain biscuits or snack a jacks because I cannot face anymore veg, tuna etc. Therefore for me to increase my calories would probably mean having to revert to the junk food I used to eat which I don't want to.

If anyone out there has any ideas of foods that are high in calories, still healthy and are small in portion size, please share for those of us who are being told to eat more to lose weight.

As for my small weight gain, at 56 yrs its not PMS :blushing: lol and always weight in the buff its the only way to go :laugh:

Nuts/seeds, avocado, full fat dairy, healhy oils, whole eggs, nut butters..

All those are quite high in fat, is it OK though as its whole food fat rather than processed food? I was logging sugar intake and avoiding things like fruit as it made it quite high, until I read on the forum that you don't need to worry too much about natural sugars.

ladymiseryali

I keep gaining and losing the same 2-5 lbs. I know how you feel. It's very frustrating. :explode:

Mads1997

Its nothing for me to gain 500 gms one day, float around it for a few days then drop 900gms in 2 days all the while eating the same food, same about of cals. Just keep going. You have lost a great amount so far.

mockchoc

Taking a break....to eat junk food.....how can that be good for you.

Who said anything about eating junk food? Taking a break means taking a break from calorie deficit, and eating at maintenance calories with your regular food. Gives your leptin and ghr elin and chance to reset/

Apologies for that comment, I think I was speaking personally. Since starting this I have changed to eating whole, clean and healthy foods and most days I have trouble eating enough to get to my 1400/1500 target. I can eat so much more actual food than what I used to eat. I sometimes find myself making up calories with plain biscuits or snack a jacks because I cannot face anymore veg, tuna etc. Therefore for me to increase my calories would probably mean having to revert to the junk food I used to eat which I don't want to.

If anyone out there has any ideas of foods that are high in calories, still healthy and are small in portion size, please share for those of us who are being told to eat more to lose weight.

As for my small weight gain, at 56 yrs its not PMS :blushing: lol and always weight in the buff its the only way to go :laugh:

Nuts/seeds, avocado, full fat dairy, healhy oils, whole eggs, nut butters..

All those are quite high in fat, is it OK though as its whole food fat rather than processed food? I was logging sugar intake and avoiding things like fruit as it made it quite high, until I read on the forum that you don't need to worry too much about natural sugars.

Our bodies need good fats from foods like these though so it's fine.

douglerner

Thanks for the extra comments, people!

With regards to extra calories, the idea of "Nuts/seeds, avocado, full fat dairy, healhy oils, whole eggs, nut butters.. " won't work for me because they are all explicitly forbidden on the Ornish and Esselstyn heart disease reversal diet. There is research that shows that all added oils are actually unhealthy for artery linings.

If I were to add extra calories it would probably be more brown rice or some other whole grain.

doug

EvgeniZyntx

Lentil, peas, black beans.

Without criticizing your choice and lifestyle, personally, I'm not a fan of these diets because frankly I find them too restrictive, low on protein and they tend to create vitamin deficiencies. So do make sure you supplement vitamins.

Couple of comments:
If you are biking every day, you are not sedentary - at the least, this is lightly active to active.
I can understand that you do not believe in "starvation mode" but would make the following suggestion - consider metabolic adaptation - as you lose weight and especially on very low calorie diets like yours the body loses fat but also muscle. Muscle uses calories. At a lower weight you need less calories to move around but if you have lost muscle you need even less calories for activities. Ideally, one wants to maintain (or build up) muscle during weight loss to reverse this effect. In your shoes, I would evaluate my body fat percent and try to reduce it to have more muscle mass - this is also excellent for the heart. Lower bf% will give you the benefit of losing at higher calories while having all the cardio benefits. Or eventually to continue your weight loss you will have to eat less - this does impact thyroid function and other organs.

douglerner

Yes, I do take a multi-vitamin. I have been tracking my protein and think I'm getting enough from tofu, legumes, soba, mushrooms and other things.

This diet is supposed to be good for your heart, which is why I started it. It's the same diet Bill Clinton went on.

Anyway, my weight has just being going up and down around the same weight since I posted. I was hoping to get into two digits by the end of the year, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen.

I upped what I'm eating so it's at LEAST 1500 calories/day. As I suspected, that does not help in losing weight quicker.

doug

blues4miles

I upped what I'm eating so it's at LEAST 1500 calories/day. As I suspected, that does not help in losing weight quicker.

doug

Honestly, 6 days is way too short to make a determination of whether more food is working or not. It also could be you've just hit a point when your weight loss is going to slow down. I was losing about a half pound a week before I discovered Dan's roadmap. I upped my calories by 100 a day. A month and a half later, and my weight loss is unchanged: still a half pound a week. But if I can eat an extra 100 calorie a day and still lose at the same rate, why wouldn't I? If I made weight loss decisions on a 6 day basis I'd have given up a long time ago and be far heavier.

douglerner

I appreciate your point. I just sort of feel that this point in my diet it's too early for weight loss to slow down. True I've already lost 60 lb. But I was really really overweight and still need to lose another 60 lb!

I'm going to do some analysis of my weight loss rates by each week to see if there has been a trend here I'm missing.

My metabolism may just be slow because I'm older now - 56. And despite one person's kind words here that I'm not sedentary because I cycle every day and do resistance exercise, I really am very sedentary. Of course the bit of exercise I do every day (30 - 40 minutes) is better than nothing, and I'm glad I do it, and the resistance exercises are helping build a bit of muscle. Still, I would classify myself as basically sedentary. I would be a couch potato if I had a couch.

doug

EvgeniZyntx

Most likely you've lost muscle. Metabolism slow down due to age is about 7-9 calories per year (based on working out the equations used to calc TDEE and BMR) So, since you are 10 years older than me - at the same lean body mass we might expect a calorie need difference of 90-120 calories.

Fast weight loss puts muscle at risk. Low protein weight loss doubly so. If you protect your muscle or build it up slightly this will help your weight loss.

gatorginger

HelloItsDan - thanks for your reply. I'm afraid I don't understand the long and detailed post you linked to though!

About calories - if I'm not in starvation mode, I don't see how adding MORE calories can help. I'm willing to try the experiment though and will add about 300 calories a day for a while and see if that makes a difference. If you're not in starvation mode though - and believe me I'm not - I don't see how it can help. It has to hurt. But we'll see. As long as I don't exceed my 1800 calorie/day limit I'm willing to try.

About protein - I'm eating on the low end of the WHO acceptable standard of protein. I'm on an Ornish/Essystyn-like diet for heart health: vegan, no added oils, no nuts/seeds. So eating carbohydrates is fundamental to the diet. I do get protein though, from tofu, and other things I eat. Even brown rice has protein in it.

Thanks,



I started out justing eating 1000 calories a day and lots of success and then I slowly added 100 more a day to my calorie intake and stayed that way for 2 weeks and would lose more weight. So again I would raise my calorie intake by 100 and again I would lose. My suggestion is to experiment and add a 100 more calories per day and eat that for two weeks and then if you lose do it again. Just test it out because you are eating too little for a guy. I am now eating 1700 calories a day and I am at my goal weight so give it a try

Ginger

douglerner

Hi, Ginger and others.

I'm eating a bit more this week. At least 1500 calories per day. I don't know - my weight has basically been fluctuating up and down. I'm 0.8 kg lighter than when I posted this discussion. Still, it's up and down.

We'll see what happens by my Friday weekly weigh-in.

Thanks,

doug

KieranRodden

Hi Doug, haha was only suggesting you may have lost a few Kg in water weight and not to get too down you had but it back on

douglerner

Thanks, Kleran and others. Things seem to be back on track. Nothing really changed on my part, but my weight is coming down again.

Thanks,

doug