weight loss, y u no easy to understand?

..or should I say FAT loss. This forum topic (http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-12) combined with a flip through my New Rules of Lifting for Women book has convinced me to go ahead and up my daily caloric intake. I've been holding steady at the good ol' 1200/day for a while now. And even though I haven't been the image of perfection, I feel like I've been doing well enough to atleast show some kind of loss. Not really.

I WAS in the middle of Jillian Michael's 30 day shred, but hearing NROLFW rag on "barbie" weights and the idea of "upper" and "lower" abs makes me think I should scrap it. (Considering this is what the whole circuit consists of) I dunno... I feel challenged when I do the 30DS and that's what counts... right?

There is just SO much conflicting information everywhere, it's such a cluster-*kitten*, it really is.

I keep seeing and hearing from all these great looking girls who are lifting heavy and eating 1600+ calories per day, so screw it..I'm going for it. I have 26 days til i'm in a bikini so if this momentarily makes me look fat I swear I might have a melt down. You know what? Maybe not. I'm so tired from information overload I might not even have it in me to show emotion anymore.

Thoughts? Success stories? Thanks.
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  • rieann84
    rieann84 Posts: 511 Member
    Oh, and..

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  • Mads1997
    Mads1997 Posts: 1,494 Member
    Op stop trying to convert people and worry about your own journey. What works for you doesnt work for everyone.
  • rieann84
    rieann84 Posts: 511 Member

    I read the posted article. It's extremely vague and therefore very confusing. Atleast what I posted gave very specific instruction for individual results...

    Not to mention.. I mean I'm CERTAINLY no expert, but it states that there are two ways to lose weight - create a deficit and exercise. The first suggests that the more you cut the more weight you'll lose (which is unhealthy) and the second suggests that you can out-exercise a poor diet.
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
    Op stop trying to convert people and worry about your own journey. What works for you doesnt work for everyone.

    Pretty sure the OP was asking a question, not convert people. Breathe.
  • Cranktastic
    Cranktastic Posts: 1,517 Member
    Op stop trying to convert people and worry about your own journey. What works for you doesnt work for everyone.
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  • AABru
    AABru Posts: 610 Member
    If you are new to weight loss, it can be very confusing. I will say this. If it feels challenging ie...you increase your heart rate, sweat and breathe hard...it IS challenging. BUT My suggestion is that you wait for NROL...only for the mere fact that your muscles are 94% water. When you start to lift, your muscles retain water. So you LOOK bigger than you were when you started. It takes anywhere from 2 to 6 weeks for your muscles to stop retaining and for you to look smaller. If you have a bikini vacation in 26 days, you are just going to end up upsetting yourself. NROL needs about 6 months. Continue with your 30DS. Jillian is a hardass, and she makes very good workouts. Reevaluate AFTER your bikini vaca. :bigsmile:
  • AABru
    AABru Posts: 610 Member
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    OMG I believe this man was in my ESL class! :wink:
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    If you are new to weight loss, it can be very confusing. I will say this. If it feels challenging ie...you increase your heart rate, sweat and breathe hard...it IS challenging. BUT My suggestion is that you wait for NROL...only for the mere fact that your muscles are 94% water. When you start to lift, your muscles retain water. So you LOOK bigger than you were when you started. It takes anywhere from 2 to 6 weeks for your muscles to stop retaining and for you to look smaller. If you have a bikini vacation in 26 days, you are just going to end up upsetting yourself. NROL needs about 6 months. Continue with your 30DS. Jillian is a hardass, and she makes very good workouts. Reevaluate AFTER your bikini vaca. :bigsmile:

    I agree with this suggestion to wait until you get back from vacation.
  • rieann84
    rieann84 Posts: 511 Member
    If you are new to weight loss, it can be very confusing. I will say this. If it feels challenging ie...you increase your heart rate, sweat and breathe hard...it IS challenging. BUT My suggestion is that you wait for NROL...only for the mere fact that your muscles are 94% water. When you start to lift, your muscles retain water. So you LOOK bigger than you were when you started. It takes anywhere from 2 to 6 weeks for your muscles to stop retaining and for you to look smaller. If you have a bikini vacation in 26 days, you are just going to end up upsetting yourself. NROL needs about 6 months. Continue with your 30DS. Jillian is a hardass, and she makes very good workouts. Reevaluate AFTER your bikini vaca. :bigsmile:

    Thanks for the tip. I was kinda planning on going with NROL when I came back anyway, because I knew it took a long time and stopping as soon as I got into it would upset me. The sad part is this... I'm NOT new to weight loss. :( I started in January of this year, so we're looking at close to 1 year and I have hardly anything to show for it.

    Now, granted..I have wavered in my focus, and I even unofficially took the summer "off". Just, lately..I am freaking out because I can't seem to get under 135. My body teases me by getting there, then going all the way up to 140. Rinse and repeat.
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    Op stop trying to convert people and worry about your own journey. What works for you doesnt work for everyone.

    Lol oh hush you..... She will most likely get great results!
  • rieann84
    rieann84 Posts: 511 Member
    Me figuring out what to do

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  • rebeccap13
    rebeccap13 Posts: 754 Member
    I have been lifting for 6 weeks now with some supplemental running and yoga. I am 5'8, 169 lbs and I consume 1600-2000 calories. I have steadily lost ~1lb/week during this time. The biggest thing I've learned is to be fairly consistent.

    Stick with the 30DS, I've done some of her other workouts and gotten a pretty intense workout. You're not going to gain strength like you would with lifting doing NROLFW but that doesn't mean that you won't create a decent deficit with these. And like others have said, the water retention when you start lifting can be discouraging. Not something you need when you need to be rocking a bikini in a little over three weeks. Keep a moderate deficit, workout 3-5 days/week, and enjoy your vacation.

    When you get back lift, it's one of the best decisions I've made for my body composition :)
  • Mads1997
    Mads1997 Posts: 1,494 Member
    she might also gain 5 kilo.

    I agree though there is so much conflicting advise eat at TDEE - 10, 15, 20 , 25%, eat at BMR, don't eat below your BMR, Follow MFP eat cals back, not eat cals back. Yada Yada Yada. No wonder people are confused.

    The constant badgering of people eating low cals is getting too much.
  • wmagoo27
    wmagoo27 Posts: 201 Member
    I WAS in the middle of Jillian Michael's 30 day shred, but hearing NROLFW rag on "barbie" weights and the idea of "upper" and "lower" abs makes me think I should scrap it. (Considering this is what the whole circuit consists of) I dunno... I feel challenged when I do the 30DS and that's what counts... right?
    I keep seeing and hearing from all these great looking girls who are lifting heavy and eating 1600+ calories per day, so screw it..I'm going for it. I have 26 days til i'm in a bikini so if this momentarily makes me look fat I swear I might have a melt down. You know what? Maybe not. I'm so tired from information overload I might not even have it in me to show emotion anymore.

    What is important is that you choose a program and stick with it. If you're doing 30 day shred right now, and it is working, keep doing it until it isn't working anymore. Then you can switch to another program. If you jump around to different programs because you're chasing the perfect or best one, none of them will work. Most programs read like infomercials on the forums. Whatever program you do, there will always be another that claims to be better for one reason or another. Program A.D.D. never benefitted anyone.
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
    she might also gain 5 kilo.

    Aren't you a little ray of sunshine?
  • What's NROLFW ?
  • Mads1997
    Mads1997 Posts: 1,494 Member
    she might also gain 5 kilo.

    Aren't you a little ray of sunshine?

    Just realistic!!
  • rieann84
    rieann84 Posts: 511 Member
    What's NROLFW ?

    New Rules of Lifting for Women. It's a book to introduce women into the mystical world of lifting heavy.
  • heatherloveslifting
    heatherloveslifting Posts: 1,428 Member
    Well, not sure about 26 days, but I have been doing this about 3 months. I've only lost about 6 lbs, but would look 100 times better in a bikini today than I would have in August. I'm getting more compliments (from friends and strangers) than ever in my life, and (at age 41) had a man literally run down the block to tell me I was hot. So definitely I vote go for it!

    ETA there is also a really nice NROLW group here. Good luck!
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
    she might also gain 5 kilo.

    Aren't you a little ray of sunshine?

    Just realistic!!

    From what? lifting weights? Or increasing cals?

    If it's from lifting weights I'll be short-lived water weight. She won't gain weight from increasing by 400cals a day... absolutely not 5kgs worth anyway.
  • RoadsterGirlie
    RoadsterGirlie Posts: 1,195 Member
    I have had AMAZING results with Jillian MIchael's workouts. I have been doing them religiously for an hour 4-5x a week for over a year, and if you are willing to put in the effort, you WILL get the results.

    As a women, I really have no desire to bulk, and the heaviest weights I use during my workouts are 12's.

    While I was in weight loss mode, I was eating about 1400 calories a day. I've noticed my muscle mass has slightly increased (more visible six pack) since switching to maintenance (2000 calories per day), which makes sense.

    My advice is to keep doing what you're doing.
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    she might also gain 5 kilo.

    I agree though there is so much conflicting advise eat at TDEE - 10, 15, 20 , 25%, eat at BMR, don't eat below your BMR, Floow MFP eat cals back, not eat cals back. Yada Yada Yada. No wonder people are confused.

    The constant badgering of people eating low cals is getting too much.

    I wouldnt say conflicting advice really.
    what we normally have are people who are new and think 1200 is easy!
    so they eat 1200cals and workout 7 days a week plateau fail...deactivate.

    Then you have the 1200 crowd thats doing it right!
    They set to 1200 and workout 3-5 days a week and eat back all or most of their calories and have sustained weight loss with minimal LBM issues.

    The road map simply gives a static number to eat daily.
    It's simplified!

    It does however take age, height, weight, body fat% and activity into account so its a little more accurate.

    PS: We are sick of seeing the forums of the 1200cal peeps *****ing and moaning about how hard it is and how bad the results are.
    Thats why you feel they are being badgered!
    We know there is an easier softer way to dieting and simply suggest it....with passion....
  • rebeccap13
    rebeccap13 Posts: 754 Member
    As a women, I really have no desire to bulk, and the heaviest weights I use during my workouts are 12's.

    LOL@ bulk... it takes a lot of hard work for a woman to get bulky.

    But seriously, I'm glad you've had great results with JM workouts. Different strokes for different folks, what's important is the hardwork, health and happiness. And alliteration. :)
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
    she might also gain 5 kilo.

    I agree though there is so much conflicting advise eat at TDEE - 10, 15, 20 , 25%, eat at BMR, don't eat below your BMR, Follow MFP eat cals back, not eat cals back. Yada Yada Yada. No wonder people are confused.

    The constant badgering of people eating low cals is getting too much.

    The OP actually asked a question. There has been no badgering on this thread. NONE.
  • rieann84
    rieann84 Posts: 511 Member
    I have had AMAZING results with Jillian MIchael's workouts. I have been doing them religiously for an hour 4-5x a week for over a year, and if you are willing to put in the effort, you WILL get the results.

    As a women, I really have no desire to bulk, and the heaviest weights I use during my workouts are 12's.

    While I was in weight loss mode, I was eating about 1400 calories a day. I've noticed my muscle mass has slightly increased (more visible six pack) since switching to maintenance (2000 calories per day), which makes sense.

    My advice is to keep doing what you're doing.

    Thank you for your reply :)
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    I have had AMAZING results with Jillian MIchael's workouts. I have been doing them religiously for an hour 4-5x a week for over a year, and if you are willing to put in the effort, you WILL get the results.

    As a women, I really have no desire to bulk, and the heaviest weights I use during my workouts are 12's.

    While I was in weight loss mode, I was eating about 1400 calories a day. I've noticed my muscle mass has slightly increased (more visible six pack) since switching to maintenance (2000 calories per day), which makes sense.

    My advice is to keep doing what you're doing.

    If you have a heavy mustache then you may have an issue bulking.
    You need testosterone for that!
    Or juice!
  • heatherloveslifting
    heatherloveslifting Posts: 1,428 Member
    Thought I should also add that I spent about 6 months on 1240 cals and lots of cardio before I did this and was hungry, but okay- until I hit a 6 week plateau. The only thing worse than eating that little is eating that little and not losing for several weeks! Definitely befriend me if you decide to try it and want support!
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    she might also gain 5 kilo.

    I agree though there is so much conflicting advise eat at TDEE - 10, 15, 20 , 25%, eat at BMR, don't eat below your BMR, Follow MFP eat cals back, not eat cals back. Yada Yada Yada. No wonder people are confused.

    The constant badgering of people eating low cals is getting too much.

    Who pissed in your weetabix?
  • foleyshirley
    foleyshirley Posts: 1,043 Member
    she might also gain 5 kilo.

    I agree though there is so much conflicting advise eat at TDEE - 10, 15, 20 , 25%, eat at BMR, don't eat below your BMR, Follow MFP eat cals back, not eat cals back. Yada Yada Yada. No wonder people are confused.

    The constant badgering of people eating low cals is getting too much.

    Or maybe those who eat low calories are getting to be too much.