Aspartame: Results of long term human study

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  • lap1970
    lap1970 Posts: 32 Member
    Everything gives you ****ing cancer! Get over it your all gonna die from something! Do not tip-toe through life just to arrive safely at death.


    Love it! Gotta remember that! Live your life!
  • sweebum
    sweebum Posts: 1,060 Member
    you lost me at mercola.

    Yup. And I hate aspartame, it aggravates my migraines.:grumble:
  • RedHeadDevotchka
    RedHeadDevotchka Posts: 1,394 Member
    MustBeTrue.jpg


    I see what you did there
  • DontStopB_Leakin
    DontStopB_Leakin Posts: 3,863 Member
    We're all going to die.


    True story.
  • EAVA
    EAVA Posts: 31 Member
    Thank you for posting that article.
    I read Dr. Mercola daily, learning from him...
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/03/30/what-are-the-10-things-that-can-pack-on-pounds.aspx
  • DanaDark
    DanaDark Posts: 2,187 Member
    pls stop with this misinformation. just please. its getting so old.

    What misinformation? I didn't give any kind of opinion. I cited an article and its sources.

    Your article was not scientific. You linked to an OPINION piece. The OPINION was that SCIENTISTS were wrong because they backtracked on a study they felt was done too poorly, showed insignificant results while claiming otherwise, and felt it premature to state facts based on ONE long term study.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    I find it hiliarous that the people that are so believing of the Federal Government and their alphabet agencies are the ones that sit in judgement of Dr. Mercola.

    The Sheeple that feel the need to ridicule and down right disrepect the OP are the ones that believe in the food pyramid, the USDA and the FDA.

    SMH.......
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    pls stop with this misinformation. just please. its getting so old.

    What misinformation? I didn't give any kind of opinion. I cited an article and its sources.

    Your article was not scientific. You linked to an OPINION piece. The OPINION was that SCIENTISTS were wrong because they backtracked on a study they felt was done too poorly, showed insignificant results while claiming otherwise, and felt it premature to state facts based on ONE long term study.

    They probably back tracked due to being paid off by Pepsi and Coke.
  • DanaDark
    DanaDark Posts: 2,187 Member
    They probably back tracked due to being paid off by Pepsi and Coke.

    The back tracked because it was the right decision. The results did not support the conclusion. Plain and simple.

    The conclusion is supposed to be an interpretation of the study's results. The study cited greatly stretched the interpretation of the results to fill a more sensational roll rather than show good science. As someone else noted above, the results didn't even show a difference among soda drinking populations, just soda and non-soda. The diet vs non-diet soda drinkers showed nearly identical results.

    From that, it is totally inappropriate to conclude that Aspartame causes blood cancer. It is, in fact, a blatant lie when using the results of that particular study.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    I don't believe that the government has my best interests at heart. I don't think they care about me as an individual.

    But I do believe that I'm worth more to them as a tax payer and voter than as a dead former Diet Pepsi drinker.
  • Charlie003
    Charlie003 Posts: 1,333 Member
    Can you please post a summery in little words for my little brain.
  • DanaDark
    DanaDark Posts: 2,187 Member
    I don't believe that the government has my best interests at heart. I don't think they care about me as an individual.

    But I do believe that I'm worth more to them as a tax payer and voter than as a dead former Diet Pepsi drinker.

    http://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/dga2010/DietaryGuidelines2010.pdf

    A very useful guide. Everything it has in there is nearly 100% identical to what the most successful people on MFP have argued for. Of note: it routinely specifies RANGES of macros and food choices that vary depending on sex, age, and physical activity level. So, some self determination is in order as those in a calorie deficit are not the "Average American" and those that exercise are also not the "Average American".

    Also worth noting the sheer number of authoritative sources for such a document. (doctors, doctors everywhere!)
  • DanaDark
    DanaDark Posts: 2,187 Member
    Can you please post a summery in little words for my little brain.

    Study: People that drink regular soda and diet soda have a slightly higher risk of developing blood cancers.

    Guy who did study: Aspartame causes blood cancer!

    Publishing community: Um no. Your study doesn't say that at all....

    Opinion piece: The publishing community is wrong! Single scientist man is right! COVER UP TIN FOIL HAT

    OP: Look, opinions are facts!
  • Charlie003
    Charlie003 Posts: 1,333 Member
    Can you please post a summery in little words for my little brain.

    Study: People that drink regular soda and diet soda have a slightly higher risk of developing blood cancers.

    Guy who did study: Aspartame causes blood cancer!

    Publishing community: Um no. Your study doesn't say that at all....

    Opinion piece: The publishing community is wrong! Single scientist man is right! COVER UP TIN FOIL HAT

    OP: Look, opinions are facts!

    Thank you. I now understand.
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    I find it hiliarous that the people that are so believing of the Federal Government and their alphabet agencies are the ones that sit in judgement of Dr. Mercola.

    The Sheeple that feel the need to ridicule and down right disrepect the OP are the ones that believe in the food pyramid, the USDA and the FDA.

    SMH.......
    Why hello Paleo Zealot (Wo)Man, we meet again.
  • DanaDark
    DanaDark Posts: 2,187 Member
    I find it hiliarous that the people that are so believing of the Federal Government and their alphabet agencies are the ones that sit in judgement of Dr. Mercola.

    The Sheeple that feel the need to ridicule and down right disrepect the OP are the ones that believe in the food pyramid, the USDA and the FDA.

    SMH.......
    Why hello Paleo Zealot (Wo)Man, we meet again.

    dun dun DUUUUNNNN
  • Charlie003
    Charlie003 Posts: 1,333 Member
    I believe if you eat or drink anything man-made in grate quantities consistantly everyday, you kidneys will build up bad *kitten*. They will then say fu*k you, and then you die.
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    you lost me at mercola.
    Same.

    Me too.......
  • Espressocycle
    Espressocycle Posts: 2,245 Member
    Oxygen kills you slowly despite the fact that going without it kills you quickly.
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    you lost me at mercola.
    Same.
    Yep

    Yeppers!! Lolz!! Ditto!!

    And me too! He is a fear monger and the OP seems to be one too.

    Interesting that i have not given any opinion on my post yet can still be judged.

    The fact that you posted implies your concurrence with the information and conclusions contained therein. If you hadn't implicitly given it credence you would not have posted it.
    pls stop with this misinformation. just please. its getting so old.

    What misinformation? I didn't give any kind of opinion. I cited an article and its sources.

    Your article was not scientific. You linked to an OPINION piece. The OPINION was that SCIENTISTS were wrong because they backtracked on a study they felt was done too poorly, showed insignificant results while claiming otherwise, and felt it premature to state facts based on ONE long term study.

    They probably back tracked due to being paid off by Pepsi and Coke.

    Yes, it's all one great big conspiracy........:huh:
  • DanaDark
    DanaDark Posts: 2,187 Member
    The fact that you posted implies your concurrence with the information conclusions contained therein. If you hadn't implicitly given it credence you would not have posted it.

    I would have to agree.

    I do not fault the OP for posting the thread, as the only bad discussion is the one left not discussed. But, to begin such a scientific topic by citing an opinion piece is not a good lift off for the topic.
  • 84woolf
    84woolf Posts: 153
    Yeeeeeah while informative, I find this perplexing. Aspartame causes cancer? Yeah, that & most of everything else we consume.
    Too much calcium CAUSES Osteoporosis (& all those milk commercials say drink up!)...too much meat, their nitrates, & an overload of protein triggers cancer cells to turn on....processed foods, chemicals in almost everything we put in our mouths cause cancers & problems.

    Unless you actively seek out something different, almost all food available to us is processed in some way with a chemical, etc.
    If everyone ate clean & in proportion that'd be best.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    They probably back tracked due to being paid off by Pepsi and Coke.

    Yes, it's all one great big conspiracy........:huh:
    "If the facts do not conform to the theory, they must be disposed of".

    Anybody with a bias will, in the face of information to the contrary, dismiss it by calling it a "conspiracy".
  • almc170
    almc170 Posts: 1,093 Member
    I find it hiliarous that the people that are so believing of the Federal Government and their alphabet agencies are the ones that sit in judgement of Dr. Mercola.

    The Sheeple that feel the need to ridicule and down right disrepect the OP are the ones that believe in the food pyramid, the USDA and the FDA.

    SMH.......
    Wait! You're really making my tinfoil hat spin. I saw something on the teevee recently that said the heavily government-subsidized sugar industry was largely responsible for the demonization of aspartame and other artificial sweeteners. But you're suggesting the government in fact PROMOTES the use of these sweeteners? I'm so confused, I don't know which conspiracy to believe!
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    I find it hiliarous that the people that are so believing of the Federal Government and their alphabet agencies are the ones that sit in judgement of Dr. Mercola.

    The Sheeple that feel the need to ridicule and down right disrepect the OP are the ones that believe in the food pyramid, the USDA and the FDA.

    SMH.......
    Wait! You're really making my tinfoil hat spin. I saw something on the teevee recently that said the heavily government-subsidized sugar industry was largely responsible for the demonization of aspartame and other artificial sweeteners. But you're suggesting the government in fact PROMOTES the use of these sweeteners? I'm so confused, I don't know which conspiracy to believe!

    They're ALL out to get you!! lol