is it really an eating disorder

the new DSM has defined binge eating as an official psychiatric disorder do you agree or disagree?
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  • Shadowknight137
    Shadowknight137 Posts: 1,243 Member
    Hasn't that been considered an eating disorder for a long time now?
  • Game8
    Game8 Posts: 442
    If you hate yourself for doing it, then maybe. But I binge at least once a month on a cheat day and feel pretty good about it :-)
  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
    I'd say yes since it's disordered eating that affects a person's emotional state and physical state. But hasn't it been an eating disorder for awhile?
  • louiselebeau
    louiselebeau Posts: 220 Member
    As someone who used to go buy 20 bucks of fresh bread to share with a fellow carboholic (we called it bread feast) I would say Yeah... It really is.
  • djames92
    djames92 Posts: 990 Member
    Hasn't that been considered an eating disorder for a long time now?
    no binging and purging is a disorder but now theres a disorder for people who just consume extreme amounts of food quickly and i believe feeling guilty is part of it
  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
    If you hate yourself for doing it, then maybe. But I binge at least once a month on a cheat day and feel pretty good about it :-)

    I think to be classified as having the disorder you'd have to binge more than once a month, and likely not feel good about it.
  • SomeoneSomeplace
    SomeoneSomeplace Posts: 1,094 Member
    100 percent agreed.

    It's like drugs or alcohol. People cannot control their food intake. Often times the reason they're binging is emotional so it becomes a response to depression or stress or some other emotion/reason.

    So yes it really is an eating disorder. It's actually not unheard of for drug addicts or alcoholics to develop binge eating disorder after getting sober or clean because they end up replacing one addiction with another, and sugar mimics some of the effects of alcohol in the brain.
  • Shadowknight137
    Shadowknight137 Posts: 1,243 Member
    Hasn't that been considered an eating disorder for a long time now?
    no binging and purging is a disorder but now theres a disorder for people who just consume extreme amounts of food quickly and i believe feeling guilty is part of it

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_disorder
    http://www.something-fishy.org/whatarethey/be.php

    Preeeeeetty sure it's been considered a disorder for awhile now. Could be wrong here, though.
  • djames92
    djames92 Posts: 990 Member
    Hasn't that been considered an eating disorder for a long time now?
    no binging and purging is a disorder but now theres a disorder for people who just consume extreme amounts of food quickly and i believe feeling guilty is part of it

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_disorder
    http://www.something-fishy.org/whatarethey/be.php

    Preeeeeetty sure it's been considered a disorder for awhile now. Could be wrong here, though.
    it was always considered part of an eating disorder as a symptom but now its going to be officially one by itself when the new DSM comes out
  • Binge Eating Disorder (BED) is already an eating disorder... this didn't just happen, it's been that way for a long time. And it's just as destructive as any other eating disorder. Trust me, I know.
  • djames92
    djames92 Posts: 990 Member
    Binge Eating Disorder (BED) is already an eating disorder... this didn't just happen, it's been that way for a long time. And it's just as destructive as any other eating disorder. Trust me, I know.
    **** i meant psychiatric disorder haha
    http://www.thestar.com/living/article/1297107--dsm-5-asperger-s-dropped-from-diagnostic-guide-hoarding-and-binge-eating-added
  • Binge Eating Disorder (BED) is already an eating disorder... this didn't just happen, it's been that way for a long time. And it's just as destructive as any other eating disorder. Trust me, I know.
    This.

    It's disordered eating, so why wouldn't it be an eating disorder? Ya know
  • jesswait
    jesswait Posts: 218 Member
    Unless there is a DSM V, or new revisions of VI that was just published it's been in there for a while. My copy of DSM IV is 11 years old and it's in there.
  • djames92
    djames92 Posts: 990 Member
    Unless there is a DSM V, or new revisions of VI that was just published it's been in there for a while. My copy of DSM IV is 11 years old and it's in there.
    how is it in DSM IV when its listed as new in DSM V
  • If you hate yourself for doing it, then maybe. But I binge at least once a month on a cheat day and feel pretty good about it :-)

    Binging once a month is completely different behavior than a binge eating disorder.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    It is disordered eating that leads to serious health problems (sometimes even death), and interferes with a person's quality of life and sometimes even controls their life, so yes.
  • jesswait
    jesswait Posts: 218 Member
    Unless there is a DSM V, or new revisions of VI that was just published it's been in there for a while. My copy of DSM IV is 11 years old and it's in there.
    how is it in DSM IV when its listed as new in DSM V

    It was likely just reclassified in V.
  • Yes binge eating is an eating disorder I believe, but a lot of people overuse the word "binge". It needs to be clear that there is a fine line between binge eating and overeating, they are not the same thing. Often after binge eating, there are compensatory behaviours going on to make up for it, not in all cases though.
  • barbaramitchell101
    barbaramitchell101 Posts: 360 Member
    In ICD-9 it is called bulimia nervosa code # 307.51 been around for awhile wait till the new ICD-10 comes active in 2014.....the code then will be F50.2
  • Jaulen
    Jaulen Posts: 468 Member
    As a true binge eater, I can tell you that having a once a month 'free' day isn't binging.
  • foleyshirley
    foleyshirley Posts: 1,043 Member
    In ICD-9 it is called bulimia nervosa code # 307.51 been around for awhile

    Bulimia is purging as well, isn't it? I don't think that is what he is talking about.
  • barbaramitchell101
    barbaramitchell101 Posts: 360 Member
    In ICD-9 it is called bulimia nervosa code # 307.51 been around for awhile

    Bulimia is purging as well, isn't it? I don't think that is what he is talking about.


    that is what my code book says is the code and description...
  • gsager
    gsager Posts: 977 Member
    the new DSM has defined binge eating as an official psychiatric disorder do you agree or disagree?

    Everything is a disorder so I don't have to be responsible for my actions. We used to call it excuses.
  • anggxo
    anggxo Posts: 102
    Unless there is a DSM V, or new revisions of VI that was just published it's been in there for a while. My copy of DSM IV is 11 years old and it's in there.

    binge eating disorder was not officially recognized under the DSM IV..

    But yeah, I agree with it being recognized. The guilt and depression that comes along with binging uncontrollably is enough to make it an official disorder. I don't think everyone who simply eats a lot has it though
  • barbaramitchell101
    barbaramitchell101 Posts: 360 Member
    the new DSM has defined binge eating as an official psychiatric disorder do you agree or disagree?

    just to add...I work in the mental health field as a biller and it is a recognized psychiatric disorder and treatment is covered by most insurances because of this...
  • Jaulen
    Jaulen Posts: 468 Member
    the new DSM has defined binge eating as an official psychiatric disorder do you agree or disagree?

    Everything is a disorder so I don't have to be responsible for my actions. We used to call it excuses.

    Obviously you've never had this problem. Lucky you.
  • Rocbola
    Rocbola Posts: 1,998 Member
    No it's not a real disorder, but they would love to sell you a drug for it anyway.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Came as no surprise that Asperger's has simply been shoved under the umbrella term of autistic spectrum disorder. Not in total agreement with that, given the vast differences between someone with Asperger's and someone with classic autism.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    the new DSM has defined binge eating as an official psychiatric disorder do you agree or disagree?

    Everything is a disorder so I don't have to be responsible for my actions. We used to call it excuses.

    They call it a disorder, so they can understand it, get help, and improve by taking responsibility (instead of making excuses for the behavior).

    I am only saying this as an observer. I have absolutely no first hand experience with binge eating or even with overeating (which I understand is not the same thing).
  • eatathome
    eatathome Posts: 81 Member
    Yes, it is absolutely an eating disorder. It's not the same as "overeating" any more than, say, eating an 800 calorie a day diet for a few months is an eating disorder in the restricting sense. Binge eating is an absolute re: diagnostic criteria for bulimia nervosa as well (those who purge without binging would be considered anorexia, purging type, or EDNOS).

    And, yes, Binge Eating Disorder is new as its own category in the DSM V; that doesn't mean it wasn't recognized before or didn't exist before (remember, the DSM is only a tool). It was formerly classified in the DSM IV-TR as an EDNOS (Eating Disorder Not Otherwise Specified)*

    "6. Binge-eating disorder: recurrent episodes of binge eating in the absence of regular compensatory behaviors characteristics of Bulimia Nervosa."

    *UNLESS the client uses other non-purging compensatory behaviors (fasting, excessive exercise), then would be classified as Bulimia Nervosa, Non-Purging Type.


    This is one of the few positive (though, really, neutral--it already existed) changes in the DSM. All in all, as a clinician, I am not looking forward to the DSM V AT ALL.