Lower fat intake?

Akimajuktuq

Usually I do, though there are days wen I go overboard at lunch and I still feel hungry after dinner.

i think we all have these days, regardless of our macros

No. Some ways of eating do eliminate the need to over eat completely. Hence my high fat diet.

Oh, well please excuse me. I was just making a light hearted general comment. I wasn't trying to alienate people such as yourself who have a holy grail diet.

Why so offended at my comment? Every day there are people talking about struggling with hunger. I always lost that battle and then I found a way not to battle hunger. Not sure why you needed to attack me. "Holy grail diet" give me a break. Especially for trying to be helpful.

marycmeadows

My body responds better to more fats (as opposed to low fat) -- but only the healthy fats..... I eat a lot of avocado and nuts.

Akimajuktuq

It's not fat hat creates body fat its carbs

can you explain how a carb can become fat? And which scenarios it is likely to happen in?

You didn't know that excess carbs can be stored as fat? There's lots of info about the physiological process and it's not hard to find. Jeez, in that case, as long as I don't eat fat, I can eat all the processed grains (remove the germ!) that I want and never be fat! Sweet! Oh yeah, I forgot, it's my health that I'm worried about. Never mind.

etoiles_argentees

Women need more dietary fat than men. OP, listen to the guys here.

wellbert

when im serious about my diet, i try and get 50-60% from fats. Healthy fats, like salmon, ribeye steak, milk, bacon, macadmia nuts, coconut oil.

DrBorkBork

you can lose weight eating high carb/low fat or high fat/low carb. I think the latter is more delicious. You have to go after the right kinds of fats though (avocados, coconut, etc)

Lift_hard_eat_big

35% isn't too high. In fact, it's about how much you want for proper hormone production and functions.

tigersword

It's not fat hat creates body fat its carbs

can you explain how a carb can become fat? And which scenarios it is likely to happen in?

You didn't know that excess carbs can be stored as fat? There's lots of info about the physiological process and it's not hard to find. Jeez, in that case, as long as I don't eat fat, I can eat all the processed grains (remove the germ!) that I want and never be fat! Sweet! Oh yeah, I forgot, it's my health that I'm worried about. Never mind.

Excess calories are stored as fat, and generally dietary fat is the first macro that gets stored, because it's the easiest for the body to store as fat. Carbs, honestly, are very rarely stored as fat. It just doesn't happen, unless a person eats hundreds of grams of carbs per day (as in 600-700) while eating at a large caloric surplus. Carbs are burned very quickly by the body, they generally don't have time to be stored as fat. Carbs get converted to glycogen and stored in the muscles, the muscles use glycogen for EVERY movement, not to mention that the brain utilizes roughly 125 grams of glucose per day just for normal function, so you can see that carbs don't really get stored as fat. It just doesn't really happen.

jennaworksout

I see no problem with it IF it is healthy fats such as, eggs, avocado, nuts, olive oil,sunflower oil,soymilk, tofu, fatty fish ... and things of that nature ... Bad if it is all from dairy, packaged snack foods, candy, fried food and things like that

this^^^ i eat nuts avocados, eggs, like they are going out of style and don't gain weight...its the bad fat you need to steer clear of, 35% of good fat is fine

etoiles_argentees

35% isn't too high. In fact, it's about how much you want for proper hormone production and functions.

exactly, I try not to go below 45% personally.

F__7

No soda regular, solo de dieta. No azucar regular, utiliza nutrasweet o parecido. Nada de pastelitos... alejate de las chelas.. bajale al azucar.... no veo que lo monitorees, entrale duro al gimnasio a diario.. y no hay tanta ciencia...

Lo unico que si es que no dejes de registrar tus comidas.. eso es lo principal para mantenerte alerta de cuando estas consumiendo demasiado..

Buena suerte

mmapags

It's not fat hat creates body fat its carbs

can you explain how a carb can become fat? And which scenarios it is likely to happen in?

You didn't know that excess carbs can be stored as fat? There's lots of info about the physiological process and it's not hard to find. Jeez, in that case, as long as I don't eat fat, I can eat all the processed grains (remove the germ!) that I want and never be fat! Sweet! Oh yeah, I forgot, it's my health that I'm worried about. Never mind.

And how would this happen in a calorie deficit?

jrmartinezb

It doesn't need to be insanely complex, a lot of the work of distilling published nutrition and dietetics research has been done for you by healthcare professionals and all the packaging of nutrients has been done for you by Mother Nature....

Absolutely agree, I think you made the same point I was trying to make. Enough research has been done than we can (usually) follow guidelines such as the ones you said and have a healthy diet. We really don't need to worry about the exact amount of walnuts in our salad or obsess about the relative health benefits of salmon and brocoli vs tuna and tomato.

Being apparently healthy or improving in fitness doesn't demonstrate your diet is healthy it just proves you are successfully overloading your muscles, if you had a full health workup a doctor would look at signs as well as symptoms. If you go back a couple of hundred years when people did a lot more manual work you would see many measurably fit people despite a poor quality diet and high risk of premature death.

You are right, having no symptoms does not equal having a good health. However in my particular case I have seen changes that I don't think would have been possible without a good enough nutrition. (My BP is in normal levels, I have stopped getting heartburn, my sleeping patterns have improved, I don't feel winded after climbing a flight of stairs, I can run for about three miles, I don't feel as tired during the day). I am no expert. I know I could be wrong. Maybe those changes are more about the weigh loss and exercise or something else. That being said, since my quality of life has improved, and I have been trying to follow what I think are good nutitional guidelines (very similar to what you said), I see no reason to think my diet is inadequate. Could it be improved? I'm sure it can be. For example, since you mentioned beans and lentils I realized I could include more of those.

I don't think I'm eating wrong, but I am also aware thate there is plenty of room for improvement.

bcattoes

Usually I do, though there are days wen I go overboard at lunch and I still feel hungry after dinner.

i think we all have these days, regardless of our macros

No. Some ways of eating do eliminate the need to over eat completely. Hence my high fat diet.

??? People don't overeat because they need to overeat. They overeat because they choose to overeat. And it's okay to choose to overeat now and then.

samerzz16

It's not fat hat creates body fat its carbs

can you explain how a carb can become fat? And which scenarios it is likely to happen in?

You didn't know that excess carbs can be stored as fat? There's lots of info about the physiological process and it's not hard to find. Jeez, in that case, as long as I don't eat fat, I can eat all the processed grains (remove the germ!) that I want and never be fat! Sweet! Oh yeah, I forgot, it's my health that I'm worried about. Never mind.

Excess calories are stored as fat, and generally dietary fat is the first macro that gets stored, because it's the easiest for the body to store as fat. Carbs, honestly, are very rarely stored as fat. It just doesn't happen, unless a person eats hundreds of grams of carbs per day (as in 600-700) while eating at a large caloric surplus. Carbs are burned very quickly by the body, they generally don't have time to be stored as fat. Carbs get converted to glycogen and stored in the muscles, the muscles use glycogen for EVERY movement, not to mention that the brain utilizes roughly 125 grams of glucose per day just for normal function, so you can see that carbs don't really get stored as fat. It just doesn't really happen.

Your right that excess calories are stored therefore a constant caloric surplus will increase your weight. Though "carbs rarely being stored as fat" is a false statement. Carbs are converted into glycogen and stored in skeletal muscle AND adipose tissue (fat). Our body uses different glucose transporters to shuttle to certain parts of your body. For example, GLUT-1 transports glucose to be used for your brain. GLUT-2 is the main transporter used for the liver and pancreas. GLUT-3 deals with neurons and placental tissue, and GLUT-4 shuttles glucose to skeletal muscle and adipose tissue. It really depends on your daily requirements and how your body utilizes ATP to determine what happens with carbohydrate metabolism. Fat is necessary to maintain normal physiological functions because cholesterol is essential to the body for a proper hormonal response. Though obviously if you exceed your daily requirements then it will turn into storage fat. You need to realize that a caloric surplus happens when you have an increase in any one of your macronutrients (fats, proteins, carbs), therefore you gain weight since that excess is stored. Your body has different motives for what to do with each one, like proteins are broken down into amino acids to be used for DNA synthesis, but the end result of any surplus can potentially be the same.

As in response to the 35% fat intake, you really have to see what your body requires. A diet is something that constantly needs to be tested and will change. Trial and error is the best way to determine whats good for you. If your motive is to lose weight, stick with 35% for a week or so and see what happens. Though one recommendation is that you should increase your protein intake and I'm pretty confident that through the trial and error that will increase a lot more

AlabasterVerve

Usually I do, though there are days wen I go overboard at lunch and I still feel hungry after dinner.

i think we all have these days, regardless of our macros

No. Some ways of eating do eliminate the need to over eat completely. Hence my high fat diet.

That was my experience as well. It felt like a compulsion to me and while I could control it sometimes a lot of the time I couldn't. Within weeks of changing my macros around that almost constant, nagging, need to overeat was gone.