Becoming a personal trainer - where to begin?

I am thinking about becoming a personal trainer. I would like to start taking some courses that would help me down that path. I have no idea what I should be starting out with though.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,988 Member
    Are you planning on taking classes? Kinesiology is important to know. So is basic nutrition.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • smccb
    smccb Posts: 99 Member
    Yes, at this point I am looking into which classes to take. I want to make sure I have a solid background before I take steps to do anything else.

    Where would I find classes on kinesiology and nutrition? Community college? Online?

    Thanks,

    Sarah
  • IronSmasher
    IronSmasher Posts: 3,908 Member
    Is there not a national standard in your country?
  • AJ_Pete
    AJ_Pete Posts: 863 Member
    I'd talk to a college advisor. Your community college should offer those courses.

    ETA: I have a friend who is going to school for this and it's pretty extensive schooling to get your degree.
  • Hezzietiger1
    Hezzietiger1 Posts: 1,256 Member
    Im studying thru nasm. My pt, who is also the pt manager at our gym (golds) says it speaks loudest of all certs on a resume. Its tough tho...not gonna lie.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,988 Member
    Im studying thru nasm. My pt, who is also the pt manager at our gym (golds) says it speaks loudest of all certs on a resume. Its tough tho...not gonna lie.
    Yes NASM is tough.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • jayche
    jayche Posts: 1,128 Member
    From what I understand you should...
    Study for a NASM exam -> take NASM exam -> pass -> become personal trainer.
  • ilovedeadlifts
    ilovedeadlifts Posts: 2,923 Member
    It depends on what route you want to go. You don't have to take "classes" you can just get a cert.


    I'd reccommend lifting for a couple of years, reading everything you can get your hands on (learning to keep a BS filter while reading), and find out what certification you want.
    different gyms are going to prefer different certs, so figure out where you want to be employed and go from there.
  • Leadfoot_Lewis
    Leadfoot_Lewis Posts: 1,623 Member
    I got my NASM CPT back in late August. After doing a lot of research I felt it was the best certification out there. You have 180 days to study, the test is 120 questions, multiple choice, and taken on a computer at a testing center.

    While the NASM CPT book is great, it deals a lot with corrective exercise and really IMO doesn't teach you a lot about lifting, gym equipment use, etc. That said, don't rely on just getting the certification and thinking you know it all. There's MUCH more to be learned outside the book. If you really want to be successful you need to continue to learn/reseach/study all aspects of fitness. Know your way around a gym (how to use the equipment, etc.) The more you know, the more you can help your clients achieve their goals.
  • NASM is a good one to start out with.

    Like lewi said, study other things and try to be well rounded.

    That being said, the thing that really sets a person apart as a personal trainer is the ability to "know" your client. Most CPT courses will walk you through how to customize the plan to your clients, etc.

    Always do atleast some kind of customization to the client... using cookie cutter routines are a good way to injure the client and your reputation.

    Keep in mind too what the type of client you are going to go after, what kind of rates you will charge, etc. It would take a lot of clients to pay for a major in kinesiology, etc.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    me too - but I want to take a couple semesters first, I want to take kinesiology and exercise physiology.
  • IronSmasher
    IronSmasher Posts: 3,908 Member
    I got my NASM CPT back in late August. After doing a lot of research I felt it was the best certification out there. You have 180 days to study, the test is 120 questions, multiple choice, and taken on a computer at a testing center.

    While the NASM CPT book is great, it deals a lot with corrective exercise and really IMO doesn't teach you a lot about lifting, gym equipment use, etc. That said, don't rely on just getting the certification and thinking you know it all. There's MUCH more to be learned outside the book. If you really want to be successful you need to continue to learn/reseach/study all aspects of fitness. Know your way around a gym (how to use the equipment, etc.) The more you know, the more you can help your clients achieve their goals.

    That's it? No portfolio of evidence? No case studies? No assignments? No practical assessment? You just turn up for a multiple guess test and you're done?
  • iplayoutside19
    iplayoutside19 Posts: 2,304 Member
    I got my NASM CPT back in late August. After doing a lot of research I felt it was the best certification out there. You have 180 days to study, the test is 120 questions, multiple choice, and taken on a computer at a testing center.

    While the NASM CPT book is great, it deals a lot with corrective exercise and really IMO doesn't teach you a lot about lifting, gym equipment use, etc. That said, don't rely on just getting the certification and thinking you know it all. There's MUCH more to be learned outside the book. If you really want to be successful you need to continue to learn/reseach/study all aspects of fitness. Know your way around a gym (how to use the equipment, etc.) The more you know, the more you can help your clients achieve their goals.

    That's it? No portfolio of evidence? No case studies? No assignments? No practical assessment? You just turn up for a multiple guess test and you're done?

    Yes, A Billion Dollar plus Fitness Industry and this how you become a personal trainer. Keep that in mind when someone throws out "My Personal trainer said....."

    Getting a Series 6, 7, & 65 Investment Advisor License isn't much different. A few more hoops, but not much.
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    Ideally, one should at a minimum have an undergraduate degree in exercise science, plus a couple of hundred hours of practical experience. And then achieve a nationally-based certification. At our facility, a degree + experience is a minimum requirement + a certification from ACE, ACSM, or NSCA. Anything less and you don't even get your resume read.

    From a practical standpoint, and given the state of affairs in a lot of commercial gyms (low pay, bad management), it's hard in good conscience for me to tell everyone to invest in college degree, esp someone who is involved in a career change.

    If you are a self-learner, you can get copies of reference materials from ACSM and NSCA--the ACSM Exercise Testing and Prescription Guidelines and the big book that goes with it with the supporting documentation provide an excellent overview. The guidelines and study materials from National Strength and Conditioning Association are also excellent for resistance training. In all, between materials and certification tests, you can expect to invest $500-$700. Compared to a degree, that's pretty reasonable IMO.

    Then you need practical experience. Not sure how to do that outside of a college internship. You can try working with some friends and family or maybe an independent local fitness center might be willing to trade some mentorship for some free desk time.

    Bottom line, I would say--make a commitment to become a real professional. There are plenty of half-assed trainers out there now--we don't really need any more. Good luck.
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    bumping, to follow along
  • funkycamper
    funkycamper Posts: 998 Member
    bump

    Would love to do this as well focusing on working with older clients who are just starting to take their fitness seriously (as that was where I was at when I started).
  • Leadfoot_Lewis
    Leadfoot_Lewis Posts: 1,623 Member
    That's it? No portfolio of evidence? No case studies? No assignments? No practical assessment? You just turn up for a multiple guess test and you're done?

    No need to shoot the messenger. That's how it's done with most CPT certifications. That is why I stressed in the second paragraph of my post the need to continue to learn/research/study. The CPT certification isn't enough IMO.

    Azdak's response is a good one.
  • ilovedeadlifts
    ilovedeadlifts Posts: 2,923 Member
    That's it? No portfolio of evidence? No case studies? No assignments? No practical assessment? You just turn up for a multiple guess test and you're done?

    yep.
    That's why I don't give two sh**s what certification someone has. The only time I'd work with a trainer is one who had spent years under the bar, and was insanely strong.
    Anybody can read a book and take an exam. Not to mention the awful information that's in these books. I got my hands on the ACSM materials and read the whole book. After reading it I decided to not take the test, it was that bad.
  • IronSmasher
    IronSmasher Posts: 3,908 Member
    Well I've taken and passed all of the kinds of test I've mentioned, and I'm yet to finish becoming qualified.

    That said, I still hold that the majority of PTs in my country are complete idiots too. We also have dodgy organisations that have condensed a qualification down to 6 weeks studying and 6 full time intensive, and managed to get it through the register of exercise professionals. My next case study alone is that long.

    Even high quality training isn't fool proof. I facebooked the people on my first anatomy and physiology course, for a mutual support and such. One started to talking about Pilates. I asked what that was, and I just got a load of buzzword twot woffle back about toning and elongating muscles and such. I was WTF?!? You were JUST in the same ANATOMY exam as me!
  • IronSmasher
    IronSmasher Posts: 3,908 Member
    That's it? No portfolio of evidence? No case studies? No assignments? No practical assessment? You just turn up for a multiple guess test and you're done?

    No need to shoot the messenger. That's how it's done with most CPT certifications. That is why I stressed in the second paragraph of my post the need to continue to learn/research/study. The CPT certification isn't enough IMO.

    Azdak's response is a good one.

    My post was completely aimed at the qualification, don't think I'm having a go at you.
  • Leadfoot_Lewis
    Leadfoot_Lewis Posts: 1,623 Member
    My post was completely aimed at the qualification, don't think I'm having a go at you.

    That's cool - I didn't think you were.
  • origwvgirl
    origwvgirl Posts: 90 Member
    bump
  • iplayoutside19
    iplayoutside19 Posts: 2,304 Member
    Ideally, one should at a minimum have an undergraduate degree in exercise science, plus a couple of hundred hours of practical experience. And then achieve a nationally-based certification. At our facility, a degree + experience is a minimum requirement + a certification from ACE, ACSM, or NSCA. Anything less and you don't even get your resume read.

    From a practical standpoint, and given the state of affairs in a lot of commercial gyms (low pay, bad management), it's hard in good conscience for me to tell everyone to invest in college degree, esp someone who is involved in a career change.

    If you are a self-learner, you can get copies of reference materials from ACSM and NSCA--the ACSM Exercise Testing and Prescription Guidelines and the big book that goes with it with the supporting documentation provide an excellent overview. The guidelines and study materials from National Strength and Conditioning Association are also excellent for resistance training. In all, between materials and certification tests, you can expect to invest $500-$700. Compared to a degree, that's pretty reasonable IMO.

    Then you need practical experience. Not sure how to do that outside of a college internship. You can try working with some friends and family or maybe an independent local fitness center might be willing to trade some mentorship for some free desk time.

    Bottom line, I would say--make a commitment to become a real professional. There are plenty of half-assed trainers out there now--we don't really need any more. Good luck.

    That's pretty much what I thought when I looked into what it would take to become a PT. If I do do it, it would be more of a passion-part-time-second job type deal. Not only that, and it may depend on which gym you work with....it sounds like one of those jobs where spend 80% your time looking for clients instead of actually traning them.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,988 Member
    I've been a certified trainer since 1999 and it's more than just about the certification. A lot of "new" PT's have a tendency to design programs for clients that are actually workouts they've personally done and that may not be what the client needs. Your workout isn't their workout.
    And you have to be good at sales too. Let's face it, without clients a PT will fail because you can't instruct when you have no one to instruct. A good PT will get results with their clients and will have a waiting list of people who want to train with them because of it. Also the focus shouldn't be about the money. If you're concerned enough about people reaching goals, the money will take care of itself.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • IronSmasher
    IronSmasher Posts: 3,908 Member
    Forgot to say, back on to the subject of helping the OP, one of the biggest helps I found was that there are site/forums in the UK that are for PTs to collect, share ideas and help each other and I'm sure you'll have some too.

    A great help for anyone that is considering/changing careers is to find someone with the kind of job you want, and ask them lots of questions and see if they will consider mentoring you.
  • baxgilter
    baxgilter Posts: 246 Member
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  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    Ideally, one should at a minimum have an undergraduate degree in exercise science, plus a couple of hundred hours of practical experience. And then achieve a nationally-based certification. At our facility, a degree + experience is a minimum requirement + a certification from ACE, ACSM, or NSCA. Anything less and you don't even get your resume read.

    From a practical standpoint, and given the state of affairs in a lot of commercial gyms (low pay, bad management), it's hard in good conscience for me to tell everyone to invest in college degree, esp someone who is involved in a career change.

    If you are a self-learner, you can get copies of reference materials from ACSM and NSCA--the ACSM Exercise Testing and Prescription Guidelines and the big book that goes with it with the supporting documentation provide an excellent overview. The guidelines and study materials from National Strength and Conditioning Association are also excellent for resistance training. In all, between materials and certification tests, you can expect to invest $500-$700. Compared to a degree, that's pretty reasonable IMO.

    Then you need practical experience. Not sure how to do that outside of a college internship. You can try working with some friends and family or maybe an independent local fitness center might be willing to trade some mentorship for some free desk time.

    Bottom line, I would say--make a commitment to become a real professional. There are plenty of half-assed trainers out there now--we don't really need any more. Good luck.

    That's pretty much what I thought when I looked into what it would take to become a PT. If I do do it, it would be more of a passion-part-time-second job type deal. Not only that, and it may depend on which gym you work with....it sounds like one of those jobs where spend 80% your time looking for clients instead of actually traning them.

    Part of that depends on the facility. Again, the chain places I think tend to use their trainers like cannon fodder or insurance salesmen--you are seen primarily as a marketing resource to drive revenue to the bottom line.

    Being a trainer does involve self-marketing, no question. A lot of new trainers are surprised at how much time they have to spend doing it at first. At our facility, we are interested in the long term, so we invest in our trainers--they get paid a few hours at first to walk the floor, we do some promo contests and let them give away 10-15 individual free sessions to gain some visibility. We also have some feeder programs (like our weight loss program) that contain a lot of personal training visits, so that's a good way to feed new trainers some clients.

    If you are good, then you have to market less and less--you get referrals from current clients and you retain your clients.
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    Also the focus shouldn't be about the money. If you're concerned enough about people reaching goals, the money will take care of itself.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    All true--unfortunately that's not something the club managers always want to hear. They want all the focus to be on the cash.
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    What are some realistic ballpark income estimates for trainers? Maybe in a few different categorizes

    - trainer at a chain McGym
    - trainer at a small no-nonsense facility
    - owner of small facility

    Or anything in between?
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    What are some realistic ballpark income estimates for trainers? Maybe in a few different categorizes

    - trainer at a chain McGym
    - trainer at a small no-nonsense facility
    - owner of small facility

    Or anything in between?

    Earning statistics of trainers:

    http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos296.htm#outlook
    http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos296.htm#projections_data
    http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes399031.htm