Increased calories=gained weight
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OK--due to so much insistence that noone should eat less than 1200 calories/day and the statement "you have to eat calories to lose calories, I increased my calories to 1200-1500/day and I HAVE BEEN GAINING WEIGHT!! Every one of the pounds I have loss has been a struggle. My intake has been 1000 calories/day--sometimes less--but rarely more. However since I have increased my exercise and effort and weight has come off no faster I decided to try increasing calories. In 2 weeks I have regained 5 pounds. It has never taken much food for me to maintain weight or to gain weight. Portions the rest of my family eats just packs on the pounds for me. I think it is true--some people can gain weight just looking at food and I am one of those people. So back to 1000 calories for me.
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Same here, I'm small and 55. If I got much over 1200 I start gaining. I never eat exercise back and make sure most of my food is nutritious. I tried 1500 for a few months and now I'm working on getting 6 lbs back off again. I keep hearing that you'll gain a bit, your body adapts and it's all good but it has never worked for me. My body is very happy with 1200 to 1350 a day food intake regardless of what I do.0
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OK--due to so much insistence that noone should eat less than 1200 calories/day and the statement "you have to eat calories to lose calories, I increased my calories to 1200-1500/day and I HAVE BEEN GAINING WEIGHT!! Every one of the pounds I have loss has been a struggle. My intake has been 1000 calories/day--sometimes less--but rarely more. However since I have increased my exercise and effort and weight has come off no faster I decided to try increasing calories. In 2 weeks I have regained 5 pounds. It has never taken much food for me to maintain weight or to gain weight. Portions the rest of my family eats just packs on the pounds for me. I think it is true--some people can gain weight just looking at food and I am one of those people. So back to 1000 calories for me.
Your body takes more than 2 weeks to adjust to the new calorie amount, if you have been restricting calories for a long time. If you want to eat 1000 calories for the rest of your life, then do that. Or give this more time for your body to reset.0 -
May just be initial. I increased to 1600 gained like 2-3 pounds over a couple week and then BAM i started losing like 1.5 pounds a week from then on and busted through my plateau. May want to give it some time.
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I went back and looked at your diary back to around the first part of November, and I saw only 3 days that you actually made it up to 1200 calories. Most days were only around 800 or 900. That is not enough for anyone0
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Your body takes more than 2 weeks to adjust to the new calorie amount, if you have been restricting calories for a long time. If you want to eat 1000 calories for the rest of your life, then do that. Or give this more time for your body to reset.
THIS THIS THIS!! if it were true that everyone eating more than 1000 calories gained weight, we would pretty much be extinct dying from obesity. your body is grabbing onto the calories youre giving it saying THANK GOD, FINALLY SOME FOOD! your body WILL adjust!! even 1200-1500 isnt a lot!!
take me for example. 5'4 140 lbs. i decided instead of trying to lose weight (1600 calories for months) i needed to put on some muscle. so now i eat 2000+ calories and i lost 2 lbs in the past 3 weeks.
seriously....do you want to live the rest of your life eating 1000 calories? this needs to be a lifestyle, not a temporary fix. patience.0 -
Since you had a lower calorie amount, THIS is what has happened:
1. Your body depleted glycogen energy stores in the muscles
2. Your body got rid of the water that stored that energy
3. Since you upped your calories, your body was able to restore some of the glycogen stores
4. In storing those, it had to retain more water
5. Processing more food also requires more water
You didn't gain fat. You gained water.
Shorter people and people with less to lose have to go slower with weight loss or they do interesting things to their hormones (which will effect their daily energy expenditure greatly) more easily than those that are larger.0 -
I went back and looked at your diary back to around the first part of November, and I saw only 3 days that you actually made it up to 1200 calories. Most days were only around 800 or 900. That is not enough for anyone
That is simply not true. While I would suggest anyone eating that low be under a doctor's supervision, it is possible to eat that low safely.0 -
OP have you seen a doctor? There are medical conditions that can cause weight loss to be more difficult that are easily treated.0
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I think your food measurements and/or your exercise (calories burned) must be off. Too loose 81lbs at that kind of calorie deficit I would think that your lean muscle % is very low. When you say exercise what is that?0
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Current weight and height are factors. As is age. Unfortuately our metabolism tends to slow with age. 1200 may not be a good number for you if you are shorter, slighter, and older. If in doubt, consult a physician or other professional!0
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Did anyone notice the OP is 63 yrs old? I know I need a lot fewer calories now to maintain my weight than I did 20 years ago.0
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BMR for a female aged 63 weight 220lbs height 4'11 (all estimated) is still at least 1500.. Even with the chronic under eating. Thus eating <1000 is not cool. However this is why it is important to DO THE RESEARCH yourself.. IF we assume that your BMR has now been suppressed to around 1500 (for a normal metabolism it's actually closer to 1600 at your age/weight) then a 20% cut would put you at 1200. So you are a perfect example of someone that probably should be eating 1200 - 1300 ..BUT NOT 800
I would suggest making sure you are eating 1200 and give it more than 2 weeks. That is not nearly long enough to make a determination.0 -
I am not saying that this will help you. But, I found I was gaining weight because of my carbs. My Fitness Plan recommended I eat 362 carbs a day. I was averaging 237 a day (difference of 125). I have now been averaging 55 to 65 carbs a day and I have lost 17 pounds since doing that.
I am not saying this will work for you. But, it is worth a try. Good luck 0 -
OK--due to so much insistence that noone should eat less than 1200 calories/day and the statement "you have to eat calories to lose calories, I increased my calories to 1200-1500/day and I HAVE BEEN GAINING WEIGHT!! Every one of the pounds I have loss has been a struggle. My intake has been 1000 calories/day--sometimes less--but rarely more. However since I have increased my exercise and effort and weight has come off no faster I decided to try increasing calories. In 2 weeks I have regained 5 pounds. It has never taken much food for me to maintain weight or to gain weight. Portions the rest of my family eats just packs on the pounds for me. I think it is true--some people can gain weight just looking at food and I am one of those people. So back to 1000 calories for me.
Your body takes more than 2 weeks to adjust to the new calorie amount, if you have been restricting calories for a long time. If you want to eat 1000 calories for the rest of your life, then do that. Or give this more time for your body to reset.
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I am not saying that this will help you. But, I found I was gaining weight because of my carbs. My Fitness Plan recommended I eat 362 carbs a day. I was averaging 237 a day (difference of 125). I have now been averaging 55 to 65 carbs a day and I have lost 17 pounds since doing that.
I am not saying this will work for you. But, it is worth a try. Good luck
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I went back and looked at your diary back to around the first part of November, and I saw only 3 days that you actually made it up to 1200 calories. Most days were only around 800 or 900. That is not enough for anyone
That is simply not true. While I would suggest anyone eating that low be under a doctor's supervision, it is possible to eat that low safely.
The poster is 63. If she is short and somewhat sedentary, then that might be the calorie level that works for her. Yes, it IS possible.0 -
I used to only be able to lose weight eating less than 1200 as well, but then I increased calories, not for a few days, but permanently . I am currently eating 1800-2000 and maintaining/gaining a healthy weight(not trying to lose weight right now, I am 8 months pregnant), as soon as I eat 1700or less, I start losing weight. I actually enjoy my extra calories and would never go back to the 1200cal diet thing, 1600 is the lowest I will eat BEFORE exercise calories. I usually eat 1/2-if not ALL of my exercise calories and I typically average 400+ cal burn.0
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I upped my calories from 1200-1300 to around 1600-1700 (sometimes more) for the past almost year, and I never once lost, only maintained. Sometimes I'd gain a couple pounds then lose a couple pounds but I've been stuck right at about 163 all year long. I believe, you do have to have a deficit in order to lose, I don't understand this eat way more to lose nonsense, it might work for some, but for me, I need to restrict in order to lose.0
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Current weight and height are factors. As is age. Unfortuately our metabolism tends to slow with age. 1200 may not be a good number for you if you are shorter, slighter, and older. If in doubt, consult a physician or other professional!
Metabolisms slowing with age is a myth. You can manipulate your metabolism at any age. You can speed it up, slow it down , or completely destroy it. it all depends on your food intake and activity level. This of course assumes you have no health issues.
To the OP... please read this: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-12
You need to calculate out your BMR and TDEE and then plan your caloric intake accordingly.
I used this since I know my BF% using an Omron meter: http://www.cordianet.com/calculator.htm
When you DO up your calories... you must allow your body time to adjust to the new intake levels. If you've been eating sub-1200 levels for months it will take your body up to two weeks to realize it no longer needs to be in famine mode and can start up the metabolism again. Someone else had posted about water retention and upped calories and this is true as well.
Also remember, your body can hold like 3-5 pounds of undigested food within your GI tract. If your metabolism is shut down your body will try and squeeze every nutrient it can out of what it has in its system. When you upp calories you are increasing the amount of food to process and until your engine is firing on all cylinders again you may gain weight from simply water and food.
I highly recommend getting a body composition meter. It will help you determine if your weight gain is actual fat or if you are just retaining water.0 -
I upped my calories from 1200-1300 to around 1600-1700 (sometimes more) for the past almost year, and I never once lost, only maintained. Sometimes I'd gain a couple pounds then lose a couple pounds but I've been stuck right at about 163 all year long. I believe, you do have to have a deficit in order to lose, I don't understand this eat way more to lose nonsense, it might work for some, but for me, I need to restrict in order to lose.
What's your BMR and TDEE? Randomly increasing your caloric intake without knowing your numbers is russian roulette. Yes you DO need a deficit to lose. But if your TDEE is1650 and you are eating 1600-1700 then of course you will maintain. :ohwell:0 -
I also read the diary and yes, way under 1200 which I could not do, not knowing all I do know about the need for proper nutrition to build a body not tear it down. For me also, it has been a struggle to find the correct amount of calories and exercise that works for me. Finally hit on 1400 and if I exercise I eat back most or all of those so not to drop below. I finally lost another lb after months of staying at the same weight but the main problem was not sticking to one amount plus, overestimating my exercise amount in finding my correct "goal" amount to eat.
deniseI went back and looked at your diary back to around the first part of November, and I saw only 3 days that you actually made it up to 1200 calories. Most days were only around 800 or 900. That is not enough for anyone0 -
Current weight and height are factors. As is age. Unfortuately our metabolism tends to slow with age. 1200 may not be a good number for you if you are shorter, slighter, and older. If in doubt, consult a physician or other professional!
Metabolisms slowing with age is a myth. You can manipulate your metabolism at any age. You can speed it up, slow it down , or completely destroy it. it all depends on your food intake and activity level.
Actually it's not a myth. Metabolism will slow with age no matter what you do. And for women, the hormonal changes of menopause can have a big impact. If you do everything right it won't slow much, though. But very few people do everything right. For most people, metabolism slows quite a bit with age.
The myth would be that you can completely destroy your metabolism (assuming we are only talking about the living).0 -
I went back and looked at your diary back to around the first part of November, and I saw only 3 days that you actually made it up to 1200 calories. Most days were only around 800 or 900. That is not enough for anyone
That is simply not true. While I would suggest anyone eating that low be under a doctor's supervision, it is possible to eat that low safely.
The poster is 63. If she is short and somewhat sedentary, then that might be the calorie level that works for her. Yes, it IS possible.
Um, yeah. My post said it IS possible (I didn't yell it, but still said "is"). It would be possible to eat that low safely even is she wasn't sedentary.0 -
Good point! For me, learning what type of weight I want to lose is most important. Or gain for that matter. deniseI think your food measurements and/or your exercise (calories burned) must be off. Too loose 81lbs at that kind of calorie deficit I would think that your lean muscle % is very low. When you say exercise what is that?0
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BMR for a female aged 63 weight 220lbs height 4'11 (all estimated) is still at least 1500.. Even with the chronic under eating. Thus eating <1000 is not cool. However this is why it is important to DO THE RESEARCH yourself.. IF we assume that your BMR has now been suppressed to around 1500 (for a normal metabolism it's actually closer to 1600 at your age/weight) then a 20% cut would put you at 1200. So you are a perfect example of someone that probably should be eating 1200 - 1300 ..BUT NOT 800
I would suggest making sure you are eating 1200 and give it more than 2 weeks. That is not nearly long enough to make a determination.
Try that math again, a 5'0", 63 yo women has a base BMR of only 1112, and a sedentary TDEE of only 1334. Factor in a very high body fat % and it could be even lower than that.0 -
I went back and looked at your diary back to around the first part of November, and I saw only 3 days that you actually made it up to 1200 calories. Most days were only around 800 or 900. That is not enough for anyone
That is simply not true. While I would suggest anyone eating that low be under a doctor's supervision, it is possible to eat that low safely.
The poster is 63. If she is short and somewhat sedentary, then that might be the calorie level that works for her. Yes, it IS possible.
Um, yeah. My post said it IS possible (I didn't yell it, but still said "is"). It would be possible to eat that low safely even is she wasn't sedentary.
Sorry, my response was to the original comment above yours, saying that it was not enough for anyone. I should have deleted your comment before posting. My bad. I was actually agreeing with your comment, but didn't make that clear.0 -
I would find what your BMR would be when you reach your goal and net that amount of calories.
Netting under 1200 calories can cause negative results.0 -
For a 5' tall, 63 yr old, sedentary female-
Caloric Need:
Estimated Base BMR: 1112 Calories.
Estimated TDEE: 1334 Calories.
Estimated Daily Caloric Need For Weight Loss: 834 Calories.0 -
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Actually it's not a myth. Metabolism will slow with age no matter what you do. And for women, the hormonal changes of menopause can have a big impact. If you do everything right it won't slow much, though. But very few people do everything right. For most people, metabolism slows quite a bit with age.
The myth would be that you can completely destroy your metabolism (assuming we are only talking about the living).
Research indicates the vast majority of any 'age related' change in metabolism is simple decrease in muscle mass - the old use it or lose it - sometimes yo yo or crash dieting but often sedentary behaviour too. The effects of hormonal changes can change where our bodies prefer to lay down fat from being hips and thighs (pear) to the waist area (apple). Much of this can be overcome with scientifically designed diet and exercise regimes - there are post menopausal ladies competing in Fitness and Figure who did not train in their youth yet have lean, tight muscular bodies because they committed to the lifestyle 100%, or go to any 10K race, you will see plenty of tiny mature ladies in the Masters category with lean bodies trouncing their overweight pre-menopausal counterparts, are they all defying the laws of biology?0
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