Does only water count as water?

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  • AnnaNoel_21
    AnnaNoel_21 Posts: 96 Member
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    I've never thought about it like this, but makes sense ... I make homemade tea. I would log that as water bc there is so much water and ice in it just flavored. As well as I use mio and other brands of flavoring to add in my water. As far as sodas and other things I wouldn't log as water bc all the excessive additives. But that's just me :)
  • Mutant13
    Mutant13 Posts: 2,485 Member
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    I count peanut butter as water
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    If you are asking what hydrates you - basically any drink and the water in foods do.


    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283

    "beverages such as milk and juice are composed mostly of water. Even beer, wine and caffeinated beverages — such as coffee, tea or soda — can contribute"

    "What you eat also provides a significant portion of your fluid needs. On average, food provides about 20 percent of total water intake."


    http://www.jacn.org/content/22/2/165.short

    "Inclusion of plain drinking water compared to exclusion of plain drinking water in the diet did not affect the markers of hydration used in this study."

    http://www.jacn.org/content/19/5/591.short

    "This preliminary study found no significant differences in the effect of various combinations of beverages on hydration status of healthy adult males. Advising people to disregard caffeinated beverages as part of the daily fluid intake is not substantiated by the results of this study."

    http://bjsportmed.com/content/40/5/406.abstract (sports drinks)

    "Ad libitum consumption of a CHO-E drink may be more effective than water in minimising fluid deficits and mean core temperature responses during tennis and other similar training in adolescent athletes."

    http://www.jacn.org/content/26/suppl_5/592S.short (food)

    "Various reports indicate that humans receive 20–25% of their daily water intake from food. Fruits, vegetables and other high-moisture foods, therefore, make an important contribution to total fluid intake."
    The diuretic effect of caffeine is minimal

    http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/12834577 (caffeine)

    "...nor does it cause significant dehydration or electrolyte imbalance during exercise."

    http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/12187618 (caffeine)

    "The literature indicates that caffeine consumption stimulates a mild diuresis similar to water, but there is no evidence of a fluid-electrolyte imbalance that is detrimental to exercise performance or health"

    " Investigations comparing caffeine (100-680 mg) to water or placebo seldom found a statistical difference in urine volume."
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,344 Member
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    ^ /thread. Great post, Sara!
  • Fairysoul
    Fairysoul Posts: 1,361 Member
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    I only count water as water, but thats just me!!
  • iuew
    iuew Posts: 624 Member
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    your body counts all water as water, whether it's water, juice, soda, lettuce, and so on.

    if it has caffeine or alcohol in it, one has to take into account that those are diuretics, and will cause you to expel some of the water.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
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    If you are asking what hydrates you - basically any drink and the water in foods do.


    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283

    "beverages such as milk and juice are composed mostly of water. Even beer, wine and caffeinated beverages — such as coffee, tea or soda — can contribute"

    "What you eat also provides a significant portion of your fluid needs. On average, food provides about 20 percent of total water intake."


    http://www.jacn.org/content/22/2/165.short

    "Inclusion of plain drinking water compared to exclusion of plain drinking water in the diet did not affect the markers of hydration used in this study."

    http://www.jacn.org/content/19/5/591.short

    "This preliminary study found no significant differences in the effect of various combinations of beverages on hydration status of healthy adult males. Advising people to disregard caffeinated beverages as part of the daily fluid intake is not substantiated by the results of this study."

    http://bjsportmed.com/content/40/5/406.abstract (sports drinks)

    "Ad libitum consumption of a CHO-E drink may be more effective than water in minimising fluid deficits and mean core temperature responses during tennis and other similar training in adolescent athletes."

    http://www.jacn.org/content/26/suppl_5/592S.short (food)

    "Various reports indicate that humans receive 20–25% of their daily water intake from food. Fruits, vegetables and other high-moisture foods, therefore, make an important contribution to total fluid intake."
    The diuretic effect of caffeine is minimal

    http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/12834577 (caffeine)

    "...nor does it cause significant dehydration or electrolyte imbalance during exercise."

    http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/12187618 (caffeine)

    "The literature indicates that caffeine consumption stimulates a mild diuresis similar to water, but there is no evidence of a fluid-electrolyte imbalance that is detrimental to exercise performance or health"

    " Investigations comparing caffeine (100-680 mg) to water or placebo seldom found a statistical difference in urine volume."

    Quoting and boldfacing so people actually read it.
  • Laddiegirl
    Laddiegirl Posts: 382 Member
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    I don't get into the debates about diaretics and whatnot. For my records to keep me on track I only log water as water that way I'm sure I'm getting at least my 8 glasses of just water. I count all the other stuff (soda, tea, coffee, juice, Vitaminwater) as something I log with food since it usually has some calories. I'm sure it all counts in some way toward my water count, but it is just extra after the 8 glasses.

    Again, this is just what works for me!
  • drmerc
    drmerc Posts: 2,603 Member
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    What a new and interesting topic
  • Lift_This_
    Lift_This_ Posts: 2,756 Member
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    What a new and interesting topic

    wait, should i include my lettuce and celery consumption in my water totals?
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    If you are asking what hydrates you - basically any drink and the water in foods do.


    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283

    "beverages such as milk and juice are composed mostly of water. Even beer, wine and caffeinated beverages — such as coffee, tea or soda — can contribute"

    "What you eat also provides a significant portion of your fluid needs. On average, food provides about 20 percent of total water intake."


    http://www.jacn.org/content/22/2/165.short

    "Inclusion of plain drinking water compared to exclusion of plain drinking water in the diet did not affect the markers of hydration used in this study."

    http://www.jacn.org/content/19/5/591.short

    "This preliminary study found no significant differences in the effect of various combinations of beverages on hydration status of healthy adult males. Advising people to disregard caffeinated beverages as part of the daily fluid intake is not substantiated by the results of this study."

    http://bjsportmed.com/content/40/5/406.abstract (sports drinks)

    "Ad libitum consumption of a CHO-E drink may be more effective than water in minimising fluid deficits and mean core temperature responses during tennis and other similar training in adolescent athletes."

    http://www.jacn.org/content/26/suppl_5/592S.short (food)

    "Various reports indicate that humans receive 20–25% of their daily water intake from food. Fruits, vegetables and other high-moisture foods, therefore, make an important contribution to total fluid intake."
    The diuretic effect of caffeine is minimal

    http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/12834577 (caffeine)

    "...nor does it cause significant dehydration or electrolyte imbalance during exercise."

    http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/12187618 (caffeine)

    "The literature indicates that caffeine consumption stimulates a mild diuresis similar to water, but there is no evidence of a fluid-electrolyte imbalance that is detrimental to exercise performance or health"

    " Investigations comparing caffeine (100-680 mg) to water or placebo seldom found a statistical difference in urine volume."

    Quoting and boldfacing so people actually read it.



    TL;DR


    Now let's get back to arguing until this thread dies or is nuked...and then we can do it again in a few days when a new thread about this same topic is started.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,344 Member
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    TL;DR


    Now let's get back to arguing until this thread dies or is nuked...and then we can do it again in a few hours when a new thread about this same topic is started.
    Fixed it for you. :tongue:
  • skrakalaka
    skrakalaka Posts: 338 Member
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    I drink when I'm thirsty, usually water.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    TL;DR


    Now let's get back to arguing until this thread dies or is nuked...and then we can do it again in a few hours when a new thread about this same topic is started.
    Fixed it for you. :tongue:


    Good catch. Thanks.

    If only there was actual peer-reviewed research that addressed this issue. Then we wouldn't have to argue it so often.


    But alas, this is just a dream. Perhaps someday. Some. Day.
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
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    If only water counted as water, and any drink with caffeine dehydrated you, I'd be dead. Studies have indeed demonstrated that the diuretic effect is minimal.
  • Robin_Bin
    Robin_Bin Posts: 1,046 Member
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    Water is water.
    What you count depends on why you're counting.
    More information on ways to drink water, hydration, references, etc. at http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Robin_Bin/view/water-265761
  • KatieJane83
    KatieJane83 Posts: 2,002 Member
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    I'm pretty certain there are quite a few people currently on this site who, before joining, probably didn't drink very much pure water at all. I was one of them, I mostly lived on coffee, tea, and juices. Yet, somehow, we all managed to survive and stay hydrated long enough to make it here, lol.

    Of course you can count things other than water towards your water tally. The key is to remember that many of these other things also contain calories so when you count them towards your water count, you also need to log them for your calorie intake (basically double-logging).
  • FredDoyle
    FredDoyle Posts: 2,273 Member
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    If you are asking what hydrates you - basically any drink and the water in foods do.




    "beverages such as milk and juice are composed mostly of water. Even beer, wine and caffeinated beverages — such as coffee, tea or soda — can contribute"

    "What you eat also provides a significant portion of your fluid needs. On average, food provides about 20 percent of total water intake."




    "Inclusion of plain drinking water compared to exclusion of plain drinking water in the diet did not affect the markers of hydration used in this study."



    "This preliminary study found no significant differences in the effect of various combinations of beverages on hydration status of healthy adult males. Advising people to disregard caffeinated beverages as part of the daily fluid intake is not substantiated by the results of this study."

    (sports drinks)

    "Ad libitum consumption of a CHO-E drink may be more effective than water in minimising fluid deficits and mean core temperature responses during tennis and other similar training in adolescent athletes."

    (food)

    "Various reports indicate that humans receive 20–25% of their daily water intake from food. Fruits, vegetables and other high-moisture foods, therefore, make an important contribution to total fluid intake."
    The diuretic effect of caffeine is minimal

    (caffeine)

    "...nor does it cause significant dehydration or electrolyte imbalance during exercise."

    (caffeine)

    "The literature indicates that caffeine consumption stimulates a mild diuresis similar to water, but there is no evidence of a fluid-electrolyte imbalance that is detrimental to exercise performance or health"

    " Investigations comparing caffeine (100-680 mg) to water or placebo seldom found a statistical difference in urine volume."

    End of hydration debate.
    If you like clicking the little water thingy below your diary only for water, have fun pissing the rest out.
  • Brunner26_2
    Brunner26_2 Posts: 1,152
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    I've never thought about it like this, but makes sense ... I make homemade tea. I would log that as water bc there is so much water and ice in it just flavored. As well as I use mio and other brands of flavoring to add in my water. As far as sodas and other things I wouldn't log as water bc all the excessive additives. But that's just me :)

    Your mio has many of the same additives as soda. At what point does it become excessive?
  • RunningTowardsFit
    RunningTowardsFit Posts: 81
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    Wow- thank you all for the responses. it certainly gives me a lot to think about. As of now, pure water by itself or with lemon will only count as my water intake, but hey, no problem with getting hydration elsewhere.

    In general when I use the restroom my pee is clear or slightly yellow, like the palest yellow possible. I think I am okay either way :)

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