Dead-lift vs. weighted squat?

dunlunicor

I was looking up some various lifting tutorials and I was a little confused about the difference between the two, because they looked very similar, so can someone clarify? I was specifically wondering about how to execute each and which muscle group(s) they target.

ironanimal

O.o...

You didn't look very closely if you think the two didn't look any different.

jencjeffery

The deadlift is a weight training exercise where a loaded barbell is lifted off the ground from a stabilized, bent over position. It is one of the three canonical powerlifting exercises, along with the squat and bench press.
The deadlift is a compound movement that works a variety of muscles groups:

The grip strength (finger flexors) and the lower back (erector spinae) work isometrically to keep the bar held in the hands and to keep the spine from rounding.
The gluteus maximus and hamstrings work to extend the hip joint.
The quadriceps work to extend the knee joint.
The adductor magnus works to stabilize the legs.


The squat is performed by squatting down with a weight held across the upper back and standing up straight again. This is a compound exercise that also involves the glutes (buttocks) and, to a lesser extent, the hamstrings, calves, and the lower back. Lifting belts are sometimes used to help support the lower back, as are tight-fitting "squat suits" which compress the lower torso.[citation needed] The freeweight squat is one of 'The Big Three' powerlifting exercises, along with the deadlift and the bench press.[2]

Capt_Apollo

look harder. they are completely different.

one works your quads, one works your hamstrings.

Rayman79

ummmm, yeah. A little more research required me thinks.

dave4d

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/deadlift_or_squat_whats_the_diff

See if this answers your question.

dunlunicor

Well, in these illustrations, the only difference is the position of the weight.

http://www.dumbbell-exercises.com/exercises/legs/index.html#1

http://www.dumbbell-exercises.com/exercises/back/index.html#5

dunlunicor

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/deadlift_or_squat_whats_the_diff

See if this answers your question.

I think that clarifies it.

So is the illustration of the squat I posted not technically a squat, then, because the weight isn't at the shoulders?

Capt_Apollo

Well, in these illustrations, the only difference is the position of the weight.

http://www.dumbbell-exercises.com/exercises/legs/index.html#1

http://www.dumbbell-exercises.com/exercises/back/index.html#5

squat


dead lift

MoreBean13

They're the same thing. Don't listen to any of these jokers.

dunlunicor

Well, in these illustrations, the only difference is the position of the weight.

http://www.dumbbell-exercises.com/exercises/legs/index.html#1

http://www.dumbbell-exercises.com/exercises/back/index.html#5

squat


dead lift

So...I'm guessing the illustration of a "squat" with the weight held down between the legs is not a squat, then, but some form of deadlift? So would it be redundant to do both of the exercises from the illustrations I posted? Or does the position of the weight (outside vs. inside the legs) make a difference? Is one better than the other? Is one dangerous? Or do they just target different areas?

Sarauk2sf

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/deadlift_or_squat_whats_the_diff

See if this answers your question.

I think that clarifies it.

So is the illustration of the squat I posted not technically a squat, then, because the weight isn't at the shoulders?

It's still a squat - it is just not as easy to see the difference. The squat is quad dominant and the deadlift is hamstring and lower back dominant (more of a pulling movement).

Sarauk2sf

So...I'm guessing the illustration of a "squat" with the weight held down between the legs is not a squat, then, but some form of deadlift? So would it be redundant to do both of the exercises from the illustrations I posted? Or does the position of the weight (outside vs. inside the legs) make a difference? Is one better than the other? Is one dangerous? Or do they just target different areas?

It is a squat. They use most of the same muscles but have differences in which muscles are being used most.

Capt_Apollo

So...I'm guessing the illustration of a "squat" with the weight held down between the legs is not a squat, then, but some form of deadlift? So would it be redundant to do both of the exercises from the illustrations I posted? Or does the position of the weight (outside vs. inside the legs) make a difference? Is one better than the other? Is one dangerous? Or do they just target different areas?

no. holding a dumb in front of you or between you legs, or even two at shoulder height are squats. all have their purpose. you can even do a squat with the barbell held in front of you at chest height.

a barbell squat, with the barbell behind your neck, is just the way to be able to squat the most weight.

dunlunicor

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/deadlift_or_squat_whats_the_diff

See if this answers your question.

I think that clarifies it.

So is the illustration of the squat I posted not technically a squat, then, because the weight isn't at the shoulders?

It's still a squat - it is just not as easy to see the difference. The squat is quad dominant and the deadlift is hamstring and lower back dominant (more of a pulling movement).

I think that's what I was missing. Good God, I'm thinking of just not bothering with weights until I can afford a trainer. I'd love to do it, but there's just so much that a tutorial can't tell you (Or that I'm just too dim to pick up on, could be either, really).

Thanks, guys.

Capt_Apollo

squat variations

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/likness23.htm

http://artofmanliness.com/2011/11/30/the-ultimate-squat-guide-35-squat-exercises/

dave4d

There is a little more hip movement in one. Do them both, and you will feel the difference in the muscles they work. Deadlifts incorporate more lower back muscles, and you can usually feel it in your hamstrings. (especially stiff leg dead lifts). Squats you can feel it in your quads, more. They are both excellent exercises for lower body work.

pennysaurus

Basically, with the squat, you are lowering with the weight, whether barbell, dumbell, kettlebell... And with deadlift you are pulling and raising up with the weight; therefore using different muscles(quads and glutes for squat and hammies and back for deadlift)

meshashesha2012

just do them both on different lifting days. they work the same muscles for the most part. the only difference is what's main muscles worked and what's supporting.

for me i find back squats work my hams glutes and hips more (because i get post parallel) as well as upper back. deadlifts work my quads, core more.

you can also add in front squats as well for a different variation

BlackTimber

The squat is quite a bit harder to perform. I involves more of your core - Your entire body actually. The dead-lift is a much more natural movement. For both of these, the potential to hurt yourself goes up as you increase the weight. Start light and perfect the motion. As you are successful moving the load, keep increasing the weight until is very difficult. Stay safe, work hard.

jayche

Squat, bar goes down and up.
Deadlift, bar goes up then down.

jennysanders6

You should check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGm8GH_fwdo The authors Pavel and Andy Bolton and their new book Deadlift Dynamite