eating back exercise calories..the point?
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Imagine identical twins...
Both net exactly the same calories, one exercises and eats back, the other one doesn't exercise.
Which one would be:
Fitter, healthier, better bone density, look hotter, be leaner, eat lots more tasty food, have more energy?
great response, and a reminder why I need to get my butt moving.0 -
Look at the graphic on your main page.
Imagine that it tells you that you have a calorie goal of 1400 calories for each day.
Imagine that you burn 300 calories with exercise today.
And imagine that you ate 1600 calories in food today.
1600 calories - 300 calories = 1300 net calories.
1400 calorie goal - 1300 net calories = 100 calorie deficit.
Deficit = weight loss.
Your goal calories is your net goal, not your food intake goal.
No, the calorie goal MFP gives you ALREADY INCLUDES a deficit. Usually a hefty one, depending on how you set it up. If you chose to lose 1lb/week, you have a 500 calorie daily deficit built in, so in your example, the deficit for that person would be 600. If you chose 2lbs/wk, that's 1000 cals per day deficit, so in your example, 1100 calorie deficit. You can see how easily the deficit can get huge if you don't eat exercise calories back.0 -
Read his past posts. He's a 28-year old male who believes starving himself is the best way to lose weight. 'Nuff said.I'm curious as to why you are bashing on it? For a lot of people, eating smaller meals has worked..not only with food cravings but also with teaching them about portion control.
To the OP - eating back exercise calories (or at least a portion of them in case your exercise deficit was overcalculated) is a way of maintaining the deficit set by MFP without letting it get too large. A larger calorie deficit is not always beneficial.
50 year old savant has spoken.. Close this thread.
Whoa. 700 calories? Well, in case you wonder about eating below a 1000 calories, check this thread out...just throwing it out there for you...
For the whole eating under a 1000 calories, look...you are going to do what you want but check out the link below at some of the stories of people who thought it was okay (especially because they weren't "feeling" hungry a lot of times) but ended up regretting it. These links are just information to give you options. I'm not preaching or trying to tell you or anyone what is the "right way"...just throwing some info your way is all.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/521480-1000-calories-or-less-a-day0 -
What is this bigger people can "afford" to lose weight faster than smaller people??????? Afford? Really?
I think that regardless of size, losing weight and getting healthy/fit is something that needs to be done smart, not fast.
This kinda annoys me. I've heard a few people say that in regards to both height and weight and it just irks me because it is like you are trying to give an "okay" to do some kind of crash diet. -.-
Actually - true. With high body fat 1.) Getting the extra weight off quickly could be saving their life. 2.) They can lose weight faster because they do have extra fuel in the form of body fat to be used. Low body fat people who try to lose weight at an accelerated pace can be losing more lean mass (muscle) if they set their deficit too high.
You might be arguing semantics here, I'm not sure why that point would bother you. It's a fact. High calorie deficits (or VLCDs) are often recommended for obese patients. As long as they are getting their basic nutrients met, VLCDs are fine for obese people. VLCDs for Low Body Fat people is extremely risky, since they can lose important muscle....you know...like their heart muscle....
shhhhhhhh.. but it doesn't say that in Cosmo, Allure, O, Men's Fitness, GQ... SHHHHH with math and science.0 -
Hey Joy, ty for the link.. I will def take a look into it.. I appreciate you putting it up, there are a lot of threads here that sometimes i miss..0
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Look at the graphic on your main page.
Imagine that it tells you that you have a calorie goal of 1400 calories for each day.
Imagine that you burn 300 calories with exercise today.
And imagine that you ate 1600 calories in food today.
1600 calories - 300 calories = 1300 net calories.
1400 calorie goal - 1300 net calories = 100 calorie deficit.
Deficit = weight loss.
Your goal calories is your net goal, not your food intake goal.
No, the calorie goal MFP gives you ALREADY INCLUDES a deficit. Usually a hefty one, depending on how you set it up. If you chose to lose 1lb/week, you have a 500 calorie daily deficit built in, so in your example, the deficit for that person would be 600. If you chose 2lbs/wk, that's 1000 cals per day deficit, so in your example, 1100 calorie deficit. You can see how easily the deficit can get huge if you don't eat exercise calories back.
Ahhhh! Too much math on a Saturday morning!! LOL. But yes, I see where I messed that up. Bottom line, eating back what you burned is healthy. MFP has you on enough of a deficit to lose weight with no exercise at all. Add in exercise changes the equation. You have to eat the calories to put the equation back to where it originated.0 -
I just calculated the calories for my homemade totally from scratch apple pie. It's fcking awesome apple pie. One slice is 348 calories. If I wasn't going to eat back my exercise calories it would be way difficult for me to fit a slice or two of that pie into my calories for the day. I would be missing out on some of the finest goddamned apple pie to ever grace a fcking plate. That would be a huge tragedy. Don't live a tragic life, eat pie instead.
^ This. But I have my own top secret man-ipe for apple pie. Life without pie just sux.0 -
Perhaps if you are 5'8" and 130 pounds, you don't need to lose weight. Eat at maintenance, exercise moderately, and get on with your life.
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At 5.8 and 135 pounds, you are already at the lower end of a healthy BMI. Maybe you need to think about your body image? Or maybe you don;t need to lose weight, but need to improve your body shape/composition through eating at BMI and doing strength training.
Just my two cents.0 -
Look at the graphic on your main page.
Imagine that it tells you that you have a calorie goal of 1400 calories for each day.
Imagine that you burn 300 calories with exercise today.
And imagine that you ate 1600 calories in food today.
1600 calories - 300 calories = 1300 net calories.
1400 calorie goal - 1300 net calories = 100 calorie deficit.
Deficit = weight loss.
Your goal calories is your net goal, not your food intake goal.
No, the calorie goal MFP gives you ALREADY INCLUDES a deficit. Usually a hefty one, depending on how you set it up. If you chose to lose 1lb/week, you have a 500 calorie daily deficit built in, so in your example, the deficit for that person would be 600. If you chose 2lbs/wk, that's 1000 cals per day deficit, so in your example, 1100 calorie deficit. You can see how easily the deficit can get huge if you don't eat exercise calories back.
Ahhhh! Too much math on a Saturday morning!! LOL. But yes, I see where I messed that up. Bottom line, eating back what you burned is healthy. MFP has you on enough of a deficit to lose weight with no exercise at all. Add in exercise changes the equation. You have to eat the calories to put the equation back to where it originated.
Agreed. :happy:0 -
Joy, I read the op link you posted.....
That person is a yoYo eater... Of course they will gain weight etc. if they are also not getting proper macros during a vlcd they will feel like that person did. Overall that person didn't seem to know what they were doing.0 -
edit to say Bahh ha ha, morebean. We typed the same response verbatim. :laugh: You are obviously operating on moar coffee/faster.
:bigsmile: It is funny- even the paragraph structure is the same! GET OUTTA MY HEAD!0 -
Joy, I read the op link you posted.....
That person is a yoYo eater... Of course they will gain weight etc. if they are also not getting proper macros during a vlcd they will feel like that person did. Overall that person didn't seem to know what they were doing.
*facepalms* Okay. Well, either it works and you'll be fit and healthy or you'll end up like some of the others on the thread. Best of luck to you on your endeavors.0 -
edit to say Bahh ha ha, morebean. We typed the same response verbatim. :laugh: You are obviously operating on moar coffee/faster.
:bigsmile: It is funny- even the paragraph structure is the same! GET OUTTA MY HEAD!
It almost annoys me, because I hate to answer something that has already been said, and said so wel.....don't know how I missed your post....but then, this is why I try to get in on the first 10 posts in a thread...unless it's a really good trollolol thread
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i bet theres a mercola article for this :laugh:0
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The REAL point is promoting FAT LOSS over tissue and muscle mass depletion. In order to lose weight your body needs a certain amount of NUTRITION (notice I didn't say calories) to burn fat via liver processes and build/tone/maintain lean muscle mass.
Exercise uses energy and causes your body to work harder than if you are just doing nothing. Most calorie consumption calculations (including MFP) for weight loss assume ZERO exercise - that is the deficit you start with. If you add exercise, your deficit increases. TOO large a deficit robs your body of NUTRITION. When that happens, your body begins to use muscle and tissue for energy because there is no FAT to ENERGY conversion possible in the body without the functions of the liver.
The liver needs energy and nutrients to convert fat. The liver has a finite capacity. It can only convert so much fat within a 24 hour period. If you are eating at a deficit larger than the liver can keep up with, then muscle and tissue are used for energy.
Everyone talks about WEIGHT loss, but most of us are hoping for FAT loss. Exercising helps build/tone/retain muscles. Eating at a deficit that is in line with your liver activity allows your body to work 'normally' to use stored fat, not existing muscle and tissue to maintain essential functions. Therefore, if you are eating at a deficit and DON'T eat back enough NUTRITION for body functions, fat is retained while muscle and tissue is depleted. Your weight may go down, but your looks and health are compromised.0 -
Hey you got some ok advice in these responses but none truly explain what you're asking. You ask why workout if you have to eat back your calories? Try to think of it like this; You take a VW Bug to a drag race track to do the 1/4 mile. The bug goes down the track and it takes say 45 sec. just for the sake of conversation. Now the bug has a round shape, looks more like a ball and is slow, however it doesn't hardly use much fuel to get down the track. The bug also only has maybe 145 horsepower.
Now picture this; you take a top-fuel drag race car out to the track. The top-fuel car is lean, and sleek, it looks really good. So it goes down the track and say it takes 4 sec. just for the sake of conversation. The top-fuel racer goes down the track 10 times faster than the VW bug and it looks a hell of a lot better while it's doing the same job, and it has maybe 650 horsepower so it takes maybe 10 times more fuel to travel the same distance.
So now I have a question for you. Which would you rather be at the drag race track, the VW Bug or the Top-fuel race car?
I choose to look like and run like the Top-Fuel race car.
I hope this helps you to understand what it truly is that you're trying to achieve. If I can help in any other way please send me a friend request.
Thanks
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Read his past posts. He's a 28-year old male who believes starving himself is the best way to lose weight. 'Nuff said.
I'm just glad that I am losing weight eating more than twice as much as he does, even with a desk job. :bigsmile:0 -
Isn't it Sunday???Look at the graphic on your main page.
Imagine that it tells you that you have a calorie goal of 1400 calories for each day.
Imagine that you burn 300 calories with exercise today.
And imagine that you ate 1600 calories in food today.
1600 calories - 300 calories = 1300 net calories.
1400 calorie goal - 1300 net calories = 100 calorie deficit.
Deficit = weight loss.
Your goal calories is your net goal, not your food intake goal.
No, the calorie goal MFP gives you ALREADY INCLUDES a deficit. Usually a hefty one, depending on how you set it up. If you chose to lose 1lb/week, you have a 500 calorie daily deficit built in, so in your example, the deficit for that person would be 600. If you chose 2lbs/wk, that's 1000 cals per day deficit, so in your example, 1100 calorie deficit. You can see how easily the deficit can get huge if you don't eat exercise calories back.
Ahhhh! Too much math on a Saturday morning!! LOL. But yes, I see where I messed that up. Bottom line, eating back what you burned is healthy. MFP has you on enough of a deficit to lose weight with no exercise at all. Add in exercise changes the equation. You have to eat the calories to put the equation back to where it originated.
Oh, crud. I think I'll just stop talking now, lol.0 -
The interrupter in this thread is hillarious. Says were all wrong and offers nothing to the contrary. Perhaps he's the food whisperer?0
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Hey im really confused from what results im recieving from the elliptical computer it say ive burned 150cals after smashing 7 1/2 miles in 32mins is this just inacurate or is that what im supposed to be getting really seems to less to be true ?0
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The interrupter in this thread is hillarious. Says were all wrong and offers nothing to the contrary. Perhaps he's the food whisperer?
Yes let me explain the research so everyone can then type 20 more pages of what Johnny so and so told them a few years ago as gospel... Do as you please.0 -
The interrupter in this thread is hillarious. Says were all wrong and offers nothing to the contrary. Perhaps he's the food whisperer?
Yes let me explain the research so everyone can then type 20 more pages of what Johnny so and so told them a few years ago as gospel... Do as you please.
It's quite a jump to say you can't be bothered to share the research- you haven't even said what your position is, with the exception of vague references to people being wrong. We're waiting with bated breath to figure who is wrong and about what. 'Cause you seem really knowledgeable and trustworthy.0 -
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The interrupter in this thread is hillarious. Says were all wrong and offers nothing to the contrary. Perhaps he's the food whisperer?
Yes let me explain the research so everyone can then type 20 more pages of what Johnny so and so told them a few years ago as gospel... Do as you please.
It's quite a jump to say you can't be bothered to share the research- you haven't even said what your position is, with the exception of vague references to people being wrong. We're waiting with bated breath to figure who is wrong and about what. 'Cause you seem really knowledgeable and trustworthy.
no,no,no... i retract my criticism.. Everything on this thread is spot on.. Carry on....
'cause you seem to have it under control...0 -
on a positive note.. really awesome before and after pics MoreBean! Great work!0
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on a positive note.. really awesome before and after pics MoreBean! Great work!
Exactly. That's her proof. She practices what she preaches and we all love her for it.
What's yours?0 -
on a positive note.. really awesome before and after pics MoreBean! Great work!
Exactly. That's her proof. She practices what she preaches and we all love her for it.
What's yours?
No proof. Like i said, everyone is correct. My mistake0 -
on a positive note.. really awesome before and after pics MoreBean! Great work!
Exactly. That's her proof. She practices what she preaches and we all love her for it.
What's yours?
No proof. Like i said, everyone is correct. My mistake
LOL!! Here's some more proof:
So where are the VLCD people (or whatever the hell stance it is you were going on about) who have done anything resembling this ^^^? Oh, and that's in 3mos. Purely eating at a small deficit and lifting for 1hr 3x a week. NOTHING more.
Oh, and I ate back my exercise calories
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on a positive note.. really awesome before and after pics MoreBean! Great work!
I can't read your sarcasm to tell if this is genuine or intended as a dig. But, I'm good at choosing how I want to hear things- so, THANKS! :bigsmile:0
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