strength training

Arwaxx
Arwaxx Posts: 113 Member
edited January 7 in Fitness and Exercise
hello everyone,
info about me:
height: 160 c
weight: 78.4 KG
age: 23
small goal weight: 70 KG

so basically im on a 1500-1600 calories intake
and try to go to the gym 3-5 x a week

i mostly do cardio because my Body fat % is pretty high.
as for strength training, i do small sets on those weights machines nothing big.

do i have to focus on weight lifting more if i want to reduce my body fat? or how does it work exactly..
or mix both but spend more time on weights

advices please :)

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,086 Member
    hello everyone,
    info about me:
    height: 160 c
    weight: 78.4 KG
    age: 23
    small goal weight: 70 KG

    so basically im on a 1500-1600 calories intake
    and try to go to the gym 3-5 x a week

    i mostly do cardio because my Body fat % is pretty high.
    as for strength training, i do small sets on those weights machines nothing big.

    do i have to focus on weight lifting more if i want to reduce my body fat? or how does it work exactly..
    or mix both but spend more time on weights

    advices please :)
    Be consistent with your workout and food intake and the weight will come off.


    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • R0asted
    R0asted Posts: 83 Member
    Sorry if this is obvious but are you a man or a woman? Those are some mightly low cals if your'e a man. Looks about right for a woman though.

    But anyways, this depends on the type of phsique you are going for. Do you want to have some muscle once you reach your target weight or do you want to look super skinny and boney like a marathon runner? If you want some muscle to show or have some curves as a woman (rounder *kitten*, etc.), than yes, you should do more resistance training. If not, than stick to mostly just cardio.

    The point of resistance training while dieting down is to tell your body that you need the muscle mass you currently have and to not burn it for energy when you're loosing weight. Without reistance training (and adequate protein in your diet) your body will burn a bit of muscle along with the fat as you're loosing weight. Cardio still stimulates your muscles a bit (mostly fast twitch fibers) so it's enough to keep some muscle, but not much.
  • R0asted
    R0asted Posts: 83 Member
    K, scratch the man comment, I clicked on your profile and it says female.
  • meshashesha2012
    meshashesha2012 Posts: 8,329 Member
    look up strong lifts, starting strength and new rules of lifting for women.

    all 3 are great beginner's programs for strength training and will help your body retain as much lean body mass as possible while you lose weight. weight training combined with moderate cardio and moderate calorie deficit will have you burning mostly fat which means that you'll see more of a change in your inch loss and how your clothes fit than necessarily on the scale
  • Arwaxx
    Arwaxx Posts: 113 Member
    okay i get it.. i dont want to be too muscley and not boney.. ill do 70% cardio and 30% strength.

    bascially, all i do is use the weight machines and do small sets till i feel the shaky feeling when lifting lol.

    thank u all x
  • katy_trail
    katy_trail Posts: 1,992 Member
    don't worry about building too much muscle. women can't build muscle like men without taking steroids.
    so the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn when you're just doing everyday stuff.
    sleeping, working at your desk, and so on. we can't do cardio all day. cardio burns cals during the workout,
    but muscle burns 24/7.

    also, doing strength training shapes your body. doing squats gives you curves in all the right places :)
  • R0asted
    R0asted Posts: 83 Member
    don't worry about building too much muscle. women can't build muscle like men without taking steroids.
    so the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn when you're just doing everyday stuff.
    sleeping, working at your desk, and so on. we can't do cardio all day. cardio burns cals during the workout,
    but muscle burns 24/7.

    also, doing strength training shapes your body. doing squats gives you curves in all the right places :)

    This

    Most woman have to literally BUST their *kitten* like crazy to get any sort of muscular development. I'm talking about YEARS of lifting balls out. Even than, the limit is not that high without steroids for women. IMHO, it's pretty much impossible for a woman to get "too muscular" without roiding.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    a balanced/well rounded diet + a balanced/well rounded exercise routine + lots and lots of patience
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    okay i get it.. i dont want to be too muscley and not boney.. ill do 70% cardio and 30% strength.

    bascially, all i do is use the weight machines and do small sets till i feel the shaky feeling when lifting lol.

    thank u all x

    i would try 70% strength, 30% cardio... and lift HEAVY!
  • sullykat
    sullykat Posts: 461 Member
    I started weight training in the spring and it changed my body completely! I always thought that certain people have a certain physique and other people don't have that physique… I didn't think I could ever achieve the physique I admired. I haven't got it completely yet, but it's coming!!! Try it out, you never know what you can achieve! Can't hurt to try more.
  • Arwaxx
    Arwaxx Posts: 113 Member
    what i am confused is which machines to use...
    everything i read online is the ones u use free weights and create work outs.

    is using the machines as effective as creating work outs?
  • bdamaster60
    bdamaster60 Posts: 595 Member
    what i am confused is which machines to use...
    everything i read online is the ones u use free weights and create work outs.

    is using the machines as effective as creating work outs?

    Alternate between both. Machine's are good for isolation of muscle groups. Free weights typically require the use of stabilizing muscles. With the two, you stimulate your muscles in different angles, you're doing yourself a disadvantage if you're not utilizing both IMO.
  • Arwaxx
    Arwaxx Posts: 113 Member
    I was thinking the same. i will mix between both and i have already saved work out to do with free weights..

    thanks!
  • sarahrbraun
    sarahrbraun Posts: 2,261 Member
    what i am confused is which machines to use...
    everything i read online is the ones u use free weights and create work outs.

    is using the machines as effective as creating work outs?

    If you are that unsure, it might be a good idea to hire a personal trainer for a session or two to create a plan for you.

    I started out with 85 pounds to lose, and I started with strength training after about 2 weeks. I used the regular machines for probably 7 months, then I switched to the cable machines...in the last few months I have started to incorporate some HEAVY free weights into my routine ( squats with a barbell that weighs over 100 lbs, leg pressing over 200lbs, etc)

    8213431311_eecd2df7b1.jpg
    gray top pics by crochetmom2010, on Flickr

    this is what weight training does for a woman. The picture on the left is several years ago. I was wearing size 16/18 pants and a 42DD bra. I went on to gain another 30 pounds or so before I started losing weight :( the picture on the right is about 6 weeks ago, basically the same weight as on the left. I am wearing the same top...but a size 38C bra, and 12/14 shorts.

    8333632541_30b15c1f26_m.jpg
    sept-dec by crochetmom2010, on Flickr

    this is a series of pictures taken September, November and December 2012. there is only about a 4.5 lb difference between the right and left picture! 4x a week I did no more than 30 min of cardio...except the week after I hurt my leg where I did NO cardio.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    what i am confused is which machines to use...
    everything i read online is the ones u use free weights and create work outs.

    is using the machines as effective as creating work outs?

    Stop reading, start doing.

    Yes, free weights are generally better as they work more muscles, but either will work. Free weights are 20% better than machines, but machines are 10000% better than doing nothing.

    Worry less about what you are doing and more about how hard you are doing it. Find something you can do, are comfortable doing (safely), and think you can stick with long term. Then go at it 100% - no halfassing it.
  • Arwaxx
    Arwaxx Posts: 113 Member
    what i am confused is which machines to use...
    everything i read online is the ones u use free weights and create work outs.

    is using the machines as effective as creating work outs?

    If you are that unsure, it might be a good idea to hire a personal trainer for a session or two to create a plan for you.

    I started out with 85 pounds to lose, and I started with strength training after about 2 weeks. I used the regular machines for probably 7 months, then I switched to the cable machines...in the last few months I have started to incorporate some HEAVY free weights into my routine ( squats with a barbell that weighs over 100 lbs, leg pressing over 200lbs, etc)

    8213431311_eecd2df7b1.jpg
    gray top pics by crochetmom2010, on Flickr

    this is what weight training does for a woman. The picture on the left is several years ago. I was wearing size 16/18 pants and a 42DD bra. I went on to gain another 30 pounds or so before I started losing weight :( the picture on the right is about 6 weeks ago, basically the same weight as on the left. I am wearing the same top...but a size 38C bra, and 12/14 shorts.

    8333632541_30b15c1f26_m.jpg
    sept-dec by crochetmom2010, on Flickr

    this is a series of pictures taken September, November and December 2012. there is only about a 4.5 lb difference between the right and left picture! 4x a week I did no more than 30 min of cardio...except the week after I hurt my leg where I did NO cardio.


    omg thats SO amazing!!! so strength training is what i should be focusing on!! but i heard that u build a layer of muscle on top of the fat, which makes u look EVEN bigger. has anyone heard that?


    but amazing loss!! huge change
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member


    omg thats SO amazing!!! so strength training is what i should be focusing on!! but i heard that u build a layer of muscle on top of the fat, which makes u look EVEN bigger. has anyone heard that?


    but amazing loss!! huge change

    Subcutaneous fat sits on top of muscle. You will not gain any appreciable muscle and the small amount you do will be more than offset with the fat losses you get from a caloric deficit.
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
    I did mostly cardio until I got my body fat % down to where I wanted it. Now, I am focused more on weight training and I am really enjoying the results. (I still do my cardio because it feels good and it's good for my heart.)

    But don't wait to do weights on my account. Start now if you'd like. You might not visually see much definition from doing weights if you still have a lot of fat to lose, but you will feel stronger and it should boost your metabolism and keep you from losing lean mass while you are eating at a deficit.

    Lots of people have success doing all sorts of combinations - all weights, all cardio, half and half, 60/40, 90/10, etc...I like a combination of weights and cardio personally. It's the best of both worlds to me. Have fun!
  • Markguns
    Markguns Posts: 554 Member
    Sounds like you need to get a trainer for about 3 sessions.... If you don't, I'd say get yourself setup on a machine circuit 3 days a week & 20-30 min cardio the other 2. Running the circuit is strength & cardio both. Do a search for "circuit training for women". One site with a lot of references is this: Circuit Training Routines For Women LIVESTRONG.COM Once you get comfortable and stronger then you can look at moving to some free weights, I say do circuit for about 2-3 months. Stay Strong! :bigsmile:
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