After workout protein. Why haven't I thought of this before?

DavPul

I prefer shakes for post workout and use the beef jerky as snack later in the day. I agree that the protein/cals/convenience ratio is hard to beat.

jazzguy4him

Jerky is an excellent protein source. Almost 0 fat too since it's all melted off. Sodium is an issue as many have said.

This is why I prefer Whey protein after workouts: Whey is quickly absorbed into the bloodstream, hence is broken dowm much faster. The faster protein is absorbed, the faster it starts its repair work.

I usually save the jerky for evening snacks.

brucedelaney

Everyone seems to be forgetting Turkey Perky Jerky.

50 Calories a serving
0 Fat
110mg Sodium
20mg Cholesterol
9g Protein

but price wise is much more expensive then a whey shake

EmilyOfTheSun

can of tuna fish is also great. 100 cals and 26 grams of protein.

Interesting math to get there.

Ummm....I didn't have to do much match. Just had to read the package. But thanks for your comment.



Pulled that photo from the webz. My cans at home say there are two servings per can and it lists the protein at 13 grams per serving, eat the whole can so...50+50=100 calories. aaaaand 13+13=26 grams of protein.

That math was very difficult.

SideSteel

can of tuna fish is also great. 100 cals and 26 grams of protein.

Interesting math to get there.

Ummm....I didn't have to do much match. Just had to read the package. But thanks for your comment.


Pulled that photo from the webz. My cans at home say there are two servings per can and it lists the protein at 13 grams, eat the whole can so...50+50=100 calories. aaaaand 13+13=26 grams of protein. That math was very difficult.

The reason math was brought into it was because protein has 4 calories per gram and 26x4 = 104. 104>100.

Could be rounding error but one would assume it has trace amounts of fat too, which has 9kcal/g.

Not posting this to argue with you, just nerding out a bit.

EmilyOfTheSun

Not posting this to argue with you, just nerding out a bit.

Nothing wrong with nerding out!

No_Finish_Line

carbs are more important but supposedly a little bit of protein somehow helps the muscles absorb the blood sugar.

you have to eat/drink something as soon as you are done. if you workout and then don't eat some would argue you're better off just skipping the work out.

You do have to eat eventually but as far as eating the instant you're done working out, "some" would be wrong.

there are 100s of research articles that back up what i said, here's one

http://oakbrooksc.com/docs/stager_chocmilk_study.pdf

show me a real piece of research that refutes it and i'll be happy to read it, otherwise, by all means, continue to talk out of your *kitten*.

Do i really think that your better off not exercising if your not going to eat immediately after? no, but i do think your better off eatting something, just make sure it fits in with the rest of what you should eat for the day.

sjohnny

carbs are more important but supposedly a little bit of protein somehow helps the muscles absorb the blood sugar.

you have to eat/drink something as soon as you are done. if you workout and then don't eat some would argue you're better off just skipping the work out.

You do have to eat eventually but as far as eating the instant you're done working out, "some" would be wrong.

there are 100s of research articles that back up what i said, here's one

http://oakbrooksc.com/docs/stager_chocmilk_study.pdf

show me a real piece of research that refutes it and i'll be happy to read it, otherwise, by all means, continue to talk out of your *kitten*.

Do i really think that your better off not exercising if your not going to eat immediately after? no, but i do think your better off eatting something, just make sure it fits in with the rest of what you should eat for the day.

Okay. That article talked about chocolate milk to restore glycogen before a second intense workout. I agree that you should consume something as soon as possible after a workout if you're going to work out again after a short time.

SideSteel

carbs are more important but supposedly a little bit of protein somehow helps the muscles absorb the blood sugar.

you have to eat/drink something as soon as you are done. if you workout and then don't eat some would argue you're better off just skipping the work out.

You do have to eat eventually but as far as eating the instant you're done working out, "some" would be wrong.

there are 100s of research articles that back up what i said, here's one

http://oakbrooksc.com/docs/stager_chocmilk_study.pdf

show me a real piece of research that refutes it and i'll be happy to read it, otherwise, by all means, continue to talk out of your *kitten*.

Do i really think that your better off not exercising if your not going to eat immediately after? no, but i do think your better off eatting something, just make sure it fits in with the rest of what you should eat for the day.

Your .pdf is specifically addressing a protocol where glycogen depleting exercise is performed and then a demand for glycogen is created shortly after. This is applicable to some endurance athletes and in that situation it's obviously necessary to replenish glycogen (and chocolate milk is a fine choice).

For an average fitness nut that trains once per day, they are usually:

a) Not fully depleting glycogen
and
b) Not needing glycogen replenishment intra-day because their training procedure doesn't require it.

And this is important context because for many dieters, getting their CHO through food intake is much more satiating. Not to mention applying nutrient timing procedures that aren't necessary (again, for this particular population) can reduce adherence.

dough21

I eat Meijer 1% Cottage Cheese.

Serving Size 1/2 Cup

80 cal
3g of Sugar
13g of Protein

dansls1

I made my own jerky for a while - flank steak, marinate with low sodium marinade - then dry in the oven at the lowest setting for a couple hours. Keeps in the fridge for a week or so and is a great protein snack. I've gone to getting the dried steak bits from Costco to save time, it's a bit more sodium - but much easier. I am putting pretty much no salt on anything else I eat - so the sodium isn't horrible unless I eat out.

ash8184

I know that a lot of people are concerned about the sodium, but the flip side is that you NEED sodium too. I'm not familiar with your diet, but if you don't eat processed foods at all, some jerky here and there isn't a bad idea. I like it because it's portable and satisfying, plus it's ready-to-eat versus potentially mixing up a shake. Maybe you can add it in a couple of times a week and see how you like it.

anybeary

I'd choose something with as few ingredients as possible if you do go for beef jerky. Probably something higher quaity than Jack's Links. Read your ingredients labels...beef jerky usually has tons of nitrites (i.e. preservative POISON) in it, as well as high sodium, and other chemical preservatives like sodium benzoate or potassium sorbate. May also contain corn syrup and other nasty sweeteners. Go for natural. Don't pollute yourself. Safe goes for whey protein products...if your food has more than five ingredients, it's probably not good for you.

TazzytheMotivator

Look at the sodium content. If you don't have high blood pressure then you are good to go. Do what is best for you. I wish you all the best.

PikaKnight

I know that a lot of people are concerned about the sodium, but the flip side is that you NEED sodium too. I'm not familiar with your diet, but if you don't eat processed foods at all, some jerky here and there isn't a bad idea. I like it because it's portable and satisfying, plus it's ready-to-eat versus potentially mixing up a shake. Maybe you can add it in a couple of times a week and see how you like it.

Yes. Having too little sodium is as bad as having as too much..especially when you are upping your water intake. That's one of my fears...over-hydration.

bostonwolf

I recently read a book that talked about how if you want the protein to be available to the muscles within two hours of a workout, you really need to eat it BEFORE working out, not after.

Vonwarr

High sodium, potentially high in fat (depending on the brand). Also, to properly absorb protein, your body also needs insulin. For optimum post-workout nutrition you should be aiming for 2:1 or higher carb to protein ratio.

BACONJOKESRSOFUNNY

That **** gets stuck in your teeth, yo.

mustgetmuscles1

I recently read a book that talked about how if you want the protein to be available to the muscles within two hours of a workout, you really need to eat it BEFORE working out, not after.

Interesting article that also suggests pre workout protein and waiting to eat after a workout with studies referenced.

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_nutrition/the_top_10_post_workout_nutrition_myths;jsessionid=6DCF6B6CDC37CFE782EC56A078BE6B67-mcd01.hydra

bakenatj

Didn't take the time to read through all the responses but the major one I can think of is that protein whey is digested fast than beef jerky. Your body will be able to use the protein from the shake faster. From all the info I could read when I lifted this was stressed. Thus the purpose of after workout meal. Protein Whey + carbs(sugar) + water + creatine = good post workout meal.

Jessi_Brooks

So much contradicting info out there... too confusing for me. So all I do is try to make sure Im around my 40/30/30 macros for the day, while keeping an eye on sodium and other things, no matter the time of day I eat/drink it. :ohwell:

SideSteel

I recently read a book that talked about how if you want the protein to be available to the muscles within two hours of a workout, you really need to eat it BEFORE working out, not after.

Interesting article that also suggests pre workout protein and waiting to eat after a workout with studies referenced.

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_nutrition/the_top_10_post_workout_nutrition_myths;jsessionid=6DCF6B6CDC37CFE782EC56A078BE6B67-mcd01.hydra

Unless I'm interpreting the article wrong, and that's entirely possible, it appears as though the author is trying to compare MPS results across two different studies when making that claim. Unless he can show that there's a difference in net LBM gains over time (using the same population), I'm going to guess that the differences are going to be negligible assuming matched total intake and anything resembling real-world eating patterns.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11440894
http://jp.physoc.org/content/535/1/301.full

staceyseeger

This is the shake that I drink post-workout. It's very good & convenient. It's distributed exclusively for HEB - only in Texas & Mexico. :ohwell: :ohwell: :ohwell:

Heb - 52e Essential Energy

Servings: 1 bottle
Calories 170 Sodium 330 mg
Total Fat 6 g Potassium 310 mg
Saturated 1 g Total Carbs 6 g
Polyunsaturated 0 g Dietary Fiber 3 g
Monounsaturated 0 g Sugars 2 g
Trans 0 g Protein 25 g
Cholesterol 20 mg
Vitamin A 25% Calcium 50%
Vitamin C 25% Iron 25%

We hunt & make our own venison jerky - not for post workout, but for snacking throughout the day. We invested in a commercial dehydrator this past year & it works great! Well worth the $$$ :happy: :happy: :happy:

bakenatj

I recently read a book that talked about how if you want the protein to be available to the muscles within two hours of a workout, you really need to eat it BEFORE working out, not after.

Interesting article that also suggests pre workout protein and waiting to eat after a workout with studies referenced.

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_nutrition/the_top_10_post_workout_nutrition_myths;jsessionid=6DCF6B6CDC37CFE782EC56A078BE6B67-mcd01.hydra

I tried this but always felt like vomiting during workouts. I was lifting heavy and just could not stomach pre workout meals. Same thing with running. That is just me though. The theory makes since, I just couldn't lift right after eating.

mustgetmuscles1

I recently read a book that talked about how if you want the protein to be available to the muscles within two hours of a workout, you really need to eat it BEFORE working out, not after.

Interesting article that also suggests pre workout protein and waiting to eat after a workout with studies referenced.

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_nutrition/the_top_10_post_workout_nutrition_myths;jsessionid=6DCF6B6CDC37CFE782EC56A078BE6B67-mcd01.hydra

Unless I'm interpreting the article wrong, and that's entirely possible, it appears as though the author is trying to compare MPS results across two different studies when making that claim. Unless he can show that there's a difference in net LBM gains over time, I'm going to guess that the differences are going to be negligible assuming matched total intake.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11440894
http://jp.physoc.org/content/535/1/301.full

I think you are right and I think that was the point of the article. (at least what I got from it) The "myth" that an immediate post workout protein intake was necessary. What I got was that it really made no difference and "may" have even been less efficient.

gingerenderly

What kind are you using?

SideSteel

I recently read a book that talked about how if you want the protein to be available to the muscles within two hours of a workout, you really need to eat it BEFORE working out, not after.

Interesting article that also suggests pre workout protein and waiting to eat after a workout with studies referenced.

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_nutrition/the_top_10_post_workout_nutrition_myths;jsessionid=6DCF6B6CDC37CFE782EC56A078BE6B67-mcd01.hydra

Unless I'm interpreting the article wrong, and that's entirely possible, it appears as though the author is trying to compare MPS results across two different studies when making that claim. Unless he can show that there's a difference in net LBM gains over time, I'm going to guess that the differences are going to be negligible assuming matched total intake.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11440894
http://jp.physoc.org/content/535/1/301.full

I think you are right and I think that was the point of the article. (at least what I got from it) The "myth" that an immediate post workout protein intake was necessary. What I got was that it really made no difference and "may" have even been less efficient.

That's certainly part of what he's claiming, but the above seemed to (in my opinion) swing the pendulum a bit far in the other direction. I just question that you can take MPS results from two entirely different protocols and use that as a basis for claiming that PWO nutrition is more effective when it's delayed.

You'll have to excuse me as I'm being a bit extra nerdy and nitpicky today for some reason.

eAddict

can of tuna fish is also great. 100 cals and 26 grams of protein.

Working out has got me hooked on Tuna.

TinaCleg

I also love Quest Nutrition bars..Chocolate Brownie

WendyTerry420

Beef jerky is yummy. That's enough reason to eat it.