Wheat Belly
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This right here? He claims it and its not true. There are no GMO wheats on the market. All the wheat being grown was developed using conventional breeding techniques. They cross different types looking for new strains with better yield, disease resistance, or whatever trait they are breeding for, There are no gene insertions etc. every single domesticated plant you eat has been created the same damn way.
Thank you. As a farmer I'd love there to be a GMO wheat that we could spray weed killers on but there isn't. I've tried to explain that before but it seems those who are on the Wheat Belly bandwagon can't take that in. I actually read the damn book just to see what he really said and he really doesn't say there is GMO wheat but he certainly tap dances all around it hoping that's the conclusion that you'll draw.
But the thing is, wheat has been hybridized. Do you debate that?0 -
I've tried both grain free diets, and wheat free diets that included other grains. I do much better with whole grains in my diet, including wheat, which I like in grain form best (bulgar). But I have quite a few friends that have reported decreased joint pain, decreased bloating, better mood, and other improvements when they went wheat free. You just have to try it out and see.0
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This right here? He claims it and its not true. There are no GMO wheats on the market. All the wheat being grown was developed using conventional breeding techniques. They cross different types looking for new strains with better yield, disease resistance, or whatever trait they are breeding for, There are no gene insertions etc. every single domesticated plant you eat has been created the same damn way.
Thank you. As a farmer I'd love there to be a GMO wheat that we could spray weed killers on but there isn't. I've tried to explain that before but it seems those who are on the Wheat Belly bandwagon can't take that in. I actually read the damn book just to see what he really said and he really doesn't say there is GMO wheat but he certainly tap dances all around it hoping that's the conclusion that you'll draw.
But the thing is, wheat has been hybridized. Do you debate that?
"Hybridization" is not a dirty word!!
Hybridization is not "GMO." Hybridization is crossing two varieties by simply letting one pollinate the other and seeing what resulted. Hybridization is, ultimately, how every single domestic crop that we eat was created.
Domestication is hybridization.
Including meat animals -- we created the domestic breeds we know today by crossing the animals we had with other ones -- wild animals, animals from a neighbor's herd.... The word "Hybrid" is dervied from a latin word meaning "Offspring of a tame sow and a wild boar."
"Hybrid" wheat? Is not something created in a lab by evil scientists intent on destroying our gut flora. Wheat has been "Hybrid" since the beginning:
"Common bread wheat (Triticum aestivum) is an example of a common amphiploid. This hexaploid came into being about 7,000 years ago from hybridization between rivet wheat (T. turgidum), a tetraploid, and Tausch's goatgrass (Aegilops tauschii), a diploid.5 In fact, Talbert et al. (1998) say it arose repeatedly as the result of multiple hybridization events. Rivet wheat itself is a much older, natural amphiploid derived from hybridization between two diploid grasses. One was the goatgrass Aegilops speltoides.6 The other was either wild einkorn (Triticum boeoticum) or another wild wheat, T. urartu, more likely the former.7"
(http://www.macroevolution.net/polyploid.html)0 -
Stop making so much sense. It gets in the way of the fad and confuses things with facts.This right here? He claims it and its not true. There are no GMO wheats on the market. All the wheat being grown was developed using conventional breeding techniques. They cross different types looking for new strains with better yield, disease resistance, or whatever trait they are breeding for, There are no gene insertions etc. every single domesticated plant you eat has been created the same damn way.
Thank you. As a farmer I'd love there to be a GMO wheat that we could spray weed killers on but there isn't. I've tried to explain that before but it seems those who are on the Wheat Belly bandwagon can't take that in. I actually read the damn book just to see what he really said and he really doesn't say there is GMO wheat but he certainly tap dances all around it hoping that's the conclusion that you'll draw.
But the thing is, wheat has been hybridized. Do you debate that?
"Hybridization" is not a dirty word!!
Hybridization is not "GMO." Hybridization is crossing two varieties by simply letting one pollinate the other and seeing what resulted. Hybridization is, ultimately, how every single domestic crop that we eat was created.
Domestication is hybridization.
Including meat animals -- we created the domestic breeds we know today by crossing the animals we had with other ones -- wild animals, animals from a neighbor's herd.... The word "Hybrid" is dervied from a latin word meaning "Offspring of a tame sow and a wild boar."
"Hybrid" wheat? Is not something created in a lab by evil scientists intent on destroying our gut flora. Wheat has been "Hybrid" since the beginning:
"Common bread wheat (Triticum aestivum) is an example of a common amphiploid. This hexaploid came into being about 7,000 years ago from hybridization between rivet wheat (T. turgidum), a tetraploid, and Tausch's goatgrass (Aegilops tauschii), a diploid.5 In fact, Talbert et al. (1998) say it arose repeatedly as the result of multiple hybridization events. Rivet wheat itself is a much older, natural amphiploid derived from hybridization between two diploid grasses. One was the goatgrass Aegilops speltoides.6 The other was either wild einkorn (Triticum boeoticum) or another wild wheat, T. urartu, more likely the former.7"
(http://www.macroevolution.net/polyploid.html)
I wonder if the wheat belly bandwagon jumpers are going to give up their vegetables too, because they have all been husbanded...0 -
Fast forward to the last min or so if you don't want to watch the whole thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Ucxeiyjpg 0 -
5! 5 Fad diets! AH HA HA HA HAAAAA!0
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Isn't Tausch's goatgrass (Aegilops tauschii) the problem? There's not much info on it though. I cut wheat from my diet for a while to stay away from allergens and high glycemic foods."Common bread wheat (Triticum aestivum) is an example of a common amphiploid. This hexaploid came into being about 7,000 years ago from hybridization between rivet wheat (T. turgidum), a tetraploid, and Tausch's goatgrass (Aegilops tauschii), a diploid.5 In fact, Talbert et al. (1998) say it arose repeatedly as the result of multiple hybridization events. Rivet wheat itself is a much older, natural amphiploid derived from hybridization between two diploid grasses. One was the goatgrass Aegilops speltoides.6 The other was either wild einkorn (Triticum boeoticum) or another wild wheat, T. urartu, more likely the former.7"
(http://www.macroevolution.net/polyploid.html)0 -
Funny, they used to call it a barley belly... I mean beer gut.
Next up. Rice Belly, Oat Belly, Carb Belly.
Just ignore the hype and rise above the plebeians. :flowerforyou:0 -
I love your username, OP!
Wheat Belly is a propaganda piece, designed to sell books and create a new dietary bad-guy. We've had saturated fats, sugar, HFCS, corn in general, white carbs, high GI foods, and now .... wheat is the new evil (or a Big Bad, since you seem to be a Buffy fan!) Wheat is not poison, it's not hazardous to our health, nor is it the cause of obesity.
Unless you are gluten intolerant or are diagnosed with coeliac disease, there is nothing wrong with traditionally-made bread. It's a great food.
Some people here are radical proponents of a low-grain or low-carbohydrate diet. What works for you is the right way to go. I eat plenty of grains.
^^^ This. Go with this.0 -
While I think the 'doctor' promoting Wheat Belly Diets is a quack, there are some things he mentions that work for me personally. Honestly I think it all goes back to each person, how your metabolism reacts to certain food, genetics and probably a lot of environmental factors we don't even know about. For me, only for me I emphasize, cutting out wheat has helped me to seriously quell my chronic sebaceous dermatitis and when I don't have wheat I find my blood sugar is MUCH more stable through out the day. I noticed earlier in this thread some people mentioned ADD. I have ADD and Dyslexia, I would have to say it definitely helps with concentration and reducing the 'motor in your head' type of thinking. This may be due to the fact that my blood sugar stabilizes, I don't know. My experience has been that any food, exercise or whatever that stabilizes blood sugar for people with neurologically rooted problems like ADD, Dyslexia, Manic Depression, Bipolar even Alzheimer's Disease do much better with a 'back to basics' approach to diet which helps them stay 'even keel', if you know what I mean. I don't have all of those things but my immediate family does. We all are very sensitive to blood sugar fluctuations and practically morph into a subhuman creatures when we get low blood sugar. I think the Wheat Belly doc that is touting his book and evil wheat as the answer to why everyone of overweight is a bunch of poo. He sounds like a newer Dr. Atkins. Meh.0
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I chanced upon seeing that Wheat Belly author promoting his book on TV not too long ago. I thought it was strange that he'd want to be pushing gluten free as a weight loss tool. He's got a weight problem, especially around his belly. Reminded me of when Dr. Phil was touting his weight loss book, yet didn't look the part of fit person. Why would anyone want to buy an out-of-shape author's weight loss book?0
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This right here? He claims it and its not true. There are no GMO wheats on the market. All the wheat being grown was developed using conventional breeding techniques. They cross different types looking for new strains with better yield, disease resistance, or whatever trait they are breeding for, There are no gene insertions etc. every single domesticated plant you eat has been created the same damn way.
Thank you. As a farmer I'd love there to be a GMO wheat that we could spray weed killers on but there isn't. I've tried to explain that before but it seems those who are on the Wheat Belly bandwagon can't take that in. I actually read the damn book just to see what he really said and he really doesn't say there is GMO wheat but he certainly tap dances all around it hoping that's the conclusion that you'll draw.
But the thing is, wheat has been hybridized. Do you debate that?
"Hybridization" is not a dirty word!!
Hybridization is not "GMO." Hybridization is crossing two varieties by simply letting one pollinate the other and seeing what resulted. Hybridization is, ultimately, how every single domestic crop that we eat was created.
Domestication is hybridization.
Including meat animals -- we created the domestic breeds we know today by crossing the animals we had with other ones -- wild animals, animals from a neighbor's herd.... The word "Hybrid" is dervied from a latin word meaning "Offspring of a tame sow and a wild boar."
"Hybrid" wheat? Is not something created in a lab by evil scientists intent on destroying our gut flora. Wheat has been "Hybrid" since the beginning:
"Common bread wheat (Triticum aestivum) is an example of a common amphiploid. This hexaploid came into being about 7,000 years ago from hybridization between rivet wheat (T. turgidum), a tetraploid, and Tausch's goatgrass (Aegilops tauschii), a diploid.5 In fact, Talbert et al. (1998) say it arose repeatedly as the result of multiple hybridization events. Rivet wheat itself is a much older, natural amphiploid derived from hybridization between two diploid grasses. One was the goatgrass Aegilops speltoides.6 The other was either wild einkorn (Triticum boeoticum) or another wild wheat, T. urartu, more likely the former.7"
(http://www.macroevolution.net/polyploid.html)
Not to mention every apple you eat, ever. There are hundreds of microspecies of apple - and most fruits in the rose family come to that.
Hybrid vigour is also damn useful to produce animals that grow well naturally.0 -
I love your username, OP!
Wheat Belly is a propaganda piece, designed to sell books and create a new dietary bad-guy. We've had saturated fats, sugar, HFCS, corn in general, white carbs, high GI foods, and now .... wheat is the new evil (or a Big Bad, since you seem to be a Buffy fan!) Wheat is not poison, it's not hazardous to our health, nor is it the cause of obesity.
Unless you are gluten intolerant or are diagnosed with coeliac disease, there is nothing wrong with traditionally-made bread. It's a great food.
Some people here are radical proponents of a low-grain or low-carbohydrate diet. What works for you is the right way to go. I eat plenty of grains.
Next thing you know they will retract that broccoli is good for us and that we should run from it.
I love whole grains and wheats though, For the record. IT doesnt seem to bother me at all. I think we shouldnt believe everything we read and enjoy life a little. you only live once. as long as you are living it in an overall healthy way. who cares! Pizza is TERRIBLE for me, Should I stop eating it because it's ridicuously high in sodium? heck ... to...the...NO!0 -
This. Whether people want to acknowledge it or not, there's a market out there that PREY on people who are naive and easy to convince. I liken these people/organizations to "seers". They tell you want you want to hear, make something sound reasonable, then brainwash you into thinking it's true.I love your username, OP!
Wheat Belly is a propaganda piece, designed to sell books and create a new dietary bad-guy. We've had saturated fats, sugar, HFCS, corn in general, white carbs, high GI foods, and now .... wheat is the new evil (or a Big Bad, since you seem to be a Buffy fan!) Wheat is not poison, it's not hazardous to our health, nor is it the cause of obesity.
Unless you are gluten intolerant or are diagnosed with coeliac disease, there is nothing wrong with traditionally-made bread. It's a great food.
Some people here are radical proponents of a low-grain or low-carbohydrate diet. What works for you is the right way to go. I eat plenty of grains.
This is especially true for those who are desperate. That's why the DIET INDUSTRY is making billions a year. A companies particular diet is "better" than their competitors because the testimonies prove it.:laugh:
Research (real research meaning that you be objective) will ultimately lead you the direction you want to go.
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I read recently that weight loss products are a billion-dollar industry, but Americans just keep getting fatter and fatter. Could it just be that it's because nothing works but cutting calories and exercising?!
I've read the comments here, and I went and read through a few of the reviews for this book on Amazon. I have to agree with the nay-sayers here. Add this book to the hundreds of weight-loss-books-that-are-a-gimmick on the shelf.
The only thing I do agree with is that there are people who have wheat and gluten allergies/intolerance. If you think this could be a problem, cut it out of your diet for a month or so and see what happens.
From all of my reading, I really believe that processed foods/preservatives/chemicals are the culprit to many of our ailments. In the past several weeks, I've significantly cut out processed foods. I have a green smoothie each morning with kale, spinach, berry fruits, nuts, seeds and almond milk. I've cut out all white starches-potatoes, rice, bread and stick to whole grain breads, oatmeal, brown rice, lentils, sweet potatoes, etc. The difference is amazing. I am sleeping through the night for the first time in years. My mood has improved. My energy has significantly increased. I am not getting the blood sugar spikes (I also eat every 3 hours). This in turn lowers my stress and will ultimately decrease the stress induced cortisol levels that has caused my belly fat. I've lost 3 pounds in 2 weeks. This is what will work for me...good, clean eating.0 -
Stop making so much sense. It gets in the way of the fad and confuses things with facts.This right here? He claims it and its not true. There are no GMO wheats on the market. All the wheat being grown was developed using conventional breeding techniques. They cross different types looking for new strains with better yield, disease resistance, or whatever trait they are breeding for, There are no gene insertions etc. every single domesticated plant you eat has been created the same damn way.
Thank you. As a farmer I'd love there to be a GMO wheat that we could spray weed killers on but there isn't. I've tried to explain that before but it seems those who are on the Wheat Belly bandwagon can't take that in. I actually read the damn book just to see what he really said and he really doesn't say there is GMO wheat but he certainly tap dances all around it hoping that's the conclusion that you'll draw.
But the thing is, wheat has been hybridized. Do you debate that?
"Hybridization" is not a dirty word!!
Hybridization is not "GMO." Hybridization is crossing two varieties by simply letting one pollinate the other and seeing what resulted. Hybridization is, ultimately, how every single domestic crop that we eat was created.
Domestication is hybridization.
Including meat animals -- we created the domestic breeds we know today by crossing the animals we had with other ones -- wild animals, animals from a neighbor's herd.... The word "Hybrid" is dervied from a latin word meaning "Offspring of a tame sow and a wild boar."
"Hybrid" wheat? Is not something created in a lab by evil scientists intent on destroying our gut flora. Wheat has been "Hybrid" since the beginning:
"Common bread wheat (Triticum aestivum) is an example of a common amphiploid. This hexaploid came into being about 7,000 years ago from hybridization between rivet wheat (T. turgidum), a tetraploid, and Tausch's goatgrass (Aegilops tauschii), a diploid.5 In fact, Talbert et al. (1998) say it arose repeatedly as the result of multiple hybridization events. Rivet wheat itself is a much older, natural amphiploid derived from hybridization between two diploid grasses. One was the goatgrass Aegilops speltoides.6 The other was either wild einkorn (Triticum boeoticum) or another wild wheat, T. urartu, more likely the former.7"
(http://www.macroevolution.net/polyploid.html)
I wonder if the wheat belly bandwagon jumpers are going to give up their vegetables too, because they have all been husbanded...
Never said hybridization was a dirty word. My point is that wheat is a polyploidy plant; the current strains (dwarf wheat) are expressing not only the proteins from both parents, which one would expect, but is also expressing unique proteins. I personally find that both interesting and a little scary. But that's just me0
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