Will all restaurants have to list their calorie info??
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I usually go to their website. A lot of times they'll have their menu posted. That way I can study it and figure out which is the healthiest choice. A lot of times MFP will have my choice in their database. If not MFP then another website will.0
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I know Cheddar's has calorie info somewhere. But I know what you mean! I'm having that issue with a chinese restaurant in town. I didn't think it was local-only but I guess it is (Hunan Express)0
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You want misleading? I'll give you misleading:
Cheesecake Factory's Crispy Chicken Costoletta - According to the menu, it's a chicken breast lightly breaded and sautéed to a crispy golden brown. It is served with a lemon sauce, mashed potatoes and fresh asparagus.
Doesn't sound too bad right?
According to CSPI, it also has 2,610 calories, more than a 12-piece bucket of original recipe Kentucky Fried Chicken, and 4½ days' worth of saturated fat (that's over 90 grams).
Putting that information on a menu would probably keep people from ordering it. In NYC most places have to post calories. I love it
Wait a sec. Misleading?
How could anyone be mislead into the belief that something would be low in cals in a place called "Cheesecake Factory"?
do we have to get angry about everything? *sigh*
we all agree that meal is bad and gross and disgusting. let's move on please. haha
Ummm..I don't think he was angry....at least it didn't sound like it to me.... :huh:
'twas hyperbole. let's move on.
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http://www.myfitnesspal.com/nutrition-facts-calories/cheddars-cafe this has Cheddars menu items nutritional value!Why do so many places still not have their calorie info available? Drives me nuts lol! Eating at Cheddar's next weekend and it would be nice to be able to plan ahead!0 -
Regulations vary by jurisdiction. In most cases it is only restaurant chains (with 20 or more outlets) that are required to comply.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/24/business/24menu.html?_r=00 -
I hope so. As is I only eat where I can see the nutritional information. The few times I actually eat out. I prefer my own food. Most places have salads and such that should be ok minus maybe the dressing.0
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I wish more restaurants listed nutritional information. I'd probably feel better about eating out if they did, but eating at home does save me money, so maybe it's a good thing I rarely like eating out.
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Thank God we don't have a Cheesecake Factory here!!
Thanks Topher for the link! I looked but I just looked under cheddars and got a bunch of cheese lol0 -
You want misleading? I'll give you misleading:
Cheesecake Factory's Crispy Chicken Costoletta - According to the menu, it's a chicken breast lightly breaded and sautéed to a crispy golden brown. It is served with a lemon sauce, mashed potatoes and fresh asparagus.
Doesn't sound too bad right?
According to CSPI, it also has 2,610 calories, more than a 12-piece bucket of original recipe Kentucky Fried Chicken, and 4½ days' worth of saturated fat (that's over 90 grams).
Putting that information on a menu would probably keep people from ordering it. In NYC most places have to post calories. I love it
I have to back the coach's play in this one.
Without the nutrition information, no amount of education can help you make the right choices at restaurants. Sticking with his Cheesecake Factory example, the average salad in that place is around 1600 cal. I order a cheeseburger there for 750 cals and my friends think I'm indulging when I'm eating less than half the calories they are.
Choices that seem safe at restaurants are coated in high calorie sauces and oils that bump the calories to levels you would never guess. That said, CF is the most egregious example and is voted worst restaurant in America year after year in the ET,NT books.
I think that's once again, lack of education. I can't even tell you how many times I've been with people who ordered a cobb or cheff salad or a salad with pieces of fried chicken on it with a creamy mayo based dressing and think that it's "healthy or low-calorie." Hell, I used to be one of those people. Oh, it's on the lighter menu so it must be healthy! But then I educated myself and realized just how many calories really are in things and how much these all add up to. You can ask for a salad with grilled chicken, veggies, etc. I've learned that when I cook food, I use minimal oil and/or other cooking foods because I'm aware of how they add up and realize that restaraunts are cooking their foods almost always in a large amount of oil and butter.
Oh. & *hands Dave a bar of soap*
This is partially true, but it's not just let words like fried that get you in trouble. It's really stuff you don't expect. I'll pm you some examples later. And if the thread is still live I'll post here too.
Also, most people just want to sit down and eat with friends and family. Having to get educated to avoid a calorie bomb shouldn't be a requirement. I need a silkwood shower right now.
I'm not disagreeing that restaraunts can purposely try to decieve people into thinking that a certain meal is healthy. I already said that I would love for them to provide the cal info but usually if I'm going out to eat, I'm either prepared to eat something more calorie dense or I order something that I'm almost certain isn't as "bad." But I still think that we should all be responsible for ourselves and stop trying to make the government (I'm talking about the USA) solely responsible for our choices. We wanted to be able to make our own decisions, so we shouldn't ask for them to hand-feed us everything. Obesity has risen (imo) due to easier accesibility to fast food, growing laziness, and our desire for things NOW and that are easy.(You know "examples" totally means junk pics, right?)
I'm counting on it.
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Cheesecake Factory grilled chicken and avocado club sandwich. Sounds decent, right? 1752 calories. That's a whole day for most people here, including a big guy like myself. Add in drinks, appetizer, and bread and we're at 3k pretty easily.
Here's a link to the ET, NT page on on CF
eatthis.menshealth.com/restaurants/cheesecake-factory0 -
I wish more restaurants listed nutritional information. I'd probably feel better about eating out if they did
This.
Maybe it's just laziness, but I am starting to seek out places that are easy to log.0 -
Cheesecake Factory grilled chicken and avocado club sandwich. Sounds decent, right? 1752 calories. That's a whole day for most people here, including a big guy like myself. Add in drinks, appetizer, and bread and we're at 3k pretty easily.
Here's a link to the ET, NT page on on CF
eatthis.menshealth.com/restaurants/cheesecake-factory
Well, who are we saying it sounds decent for? The average human that's eating at drive-thrus constantly or someone who has gotten informed about this?
I wouldn't order that thinking it sounds decent. Avocado is calorie dense, then the word "club" which usually means bacon, condiments probably include mayo, I'm sure it comes with a LARGE side of fries and I'm sure the sandwich is already a 2 person portion size. And someone making calorie conscious decisions probably wouldn't be getting the drinks, appetizer, or bread.0 -
I don't know if it is true or not but my dietician at the hospital where I have been getting my diabtic training said that with the new 'Obamacare' that all chain resturuants that have 20 or more in their chain will have to have their nutritional data public. I do know that Cracker Barrell did theirs this week.0
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Cheesecake Factory grilled chicken and avocado club sandwich. Sounds decent, right? 1752 calories. That's a whole day for most people here, including a big guy like myself. Add in drinks, appetizer, and bread and we're at 3k pretty easily.
Here's a link to the ET, NT page on on CF
eatthis.menshealth.com/restaurants/cheesecake-factory
Well, who are we saying it sounds decent for? The average human that's eating at drive-thrus constantly or someone who has gotten informed about this?
I wouldn't order that thinking it sounds decent. Avocado is calorie dense, then the word "club" which usually means bacon, condiments probably include mayo, I'm sure it comes with a LARGE side of fries and I'm sure the sandwich is already a 2 person portion size. And someone making calorie conscious decisions probably wouldn't be getting the drinks, appetizer, or bread.
I think you're making some very optimistic assumptions about the human race. Have you visited our forums lately?0 -
Chain restaurants in CA do.
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Cheesecake Factory grilled chicken and avocado club sandwich. Sounds decent, right? 1752 calories. That's a whole day for most people here, including a big guy like myself. Add in drinks, appetizer, and bread and we're at 3k pretty easily.
Here's a link to the ET, NT page on on CF
eatthis.menshealth.com/restaurants/cheesecake-factory
Well, who are we saying it sounds decent for? The average human that's eating at drive-thrus constantly or someone who has gotten informed about this?
I wouldn't order that thinking it sounds decent. Avocado is calorie dense, then the word "club" which usually means bacon, condiments probably include mayo, I'm sure it comes with a LARGE side of fries and I'm sure the sandwich is already a 2 person portion size. And someone making calorie conscious decisions probably wouldn't be getting the drinks, appetizer, or bread.
I think you're making some very optimistic assumptions about the human race. Have you visited our forums lately?
You had to go there? That was a cheap shot. You win. :sad:
P.S. My inbox is still empty, Dave.0 -
You want misleading? I'll give you misleading:
Cheesecake Factory's Crispy Chicken Costoletta - According to the menu, it's a chicken breast lightly breaded and sautéed to a crispy golden brown. It is served with a lemon sauce, mashed potatoes and fresh asparagus.
Doesn't sound too bad right?
According to CSPI, it also has 2,610 calories, more than a 12-piece bucket of original recipe Kentucky Fried Chicken, and 4½ days' worth of saturated fat (that's over 90 grams).
Putting that information on a menu would probably keep people from ordering it. In NYC most places have to post calories. I love it
Wait a sec. Misleading?
How could anyone be mislead into the belief that something would be low in cals in a place called "Cheesecake Factory"?
This. Well said. Be like walking into KFC & expecting their chicken to be grilled lightly in a pan with no oil.0 -
Why do so many places still not have their calorie info available? Drives me nuts lol! Eating at Cheddar's next weekend and it would be nice to be able to plan ahead!
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/nutrition-facts-calories/cheddars-cafe
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Who goes to the Cheesecake Factory to get a grilled chicken salad? If a meal blows your macros for the rest of the day, then deal with it.You want misleading? I'll give you misleading:
Cheesecake Factory's Crispy Chicken Costoletta - According to the menu, it's a chicken breast lightly breaded and sautéed to a crispy golden brown. It is served with a lemon sauce, mashed potatoes and fresh asparagus.
Doesn't sound too bad right?
According to CSPI, it also has 2,610 calories, more than a 12-piece bucket of original recipe Kentucky Fried Chicken, and 4½ days' worth of saturated fat (that's over 90 grams).
Putting that information on a menu would probably keep people from ordering it. In NYC most places have to post calories. I love it
I have to back the coach's play in this one.
Without the nutrition information, no amount of education can help you make the right choices at restaurants. Sticking with his Cheesecake Factory example, the average salad in that place is around 1600 cal. I order a cheeseburger there for 750 cals and my friends think I'm indulging when I'm eating less than half the calories they are.
Choices that seem safe at restaurants are coated in high calorie sauces and oils that bump the calories to levels you would never guess. That said, CF is the most egregious example and is voted worst restaurant in America year after year in the ET,NT books.
I think that's once again, lack of education. I can't even tell you how many times I've been with people who ordered a cobb or cheff salad or a salad with pieces of fried chicken on it with a creamy mayo based dressing and think that it's "healthy or low-calorie." Hell, I used to be one of those people. Oh, it's on the lighter menu so it must be healthy! But then I educated myself and realized just how many calories really are in things and how much these all add up to. You can ask for a salad with grilled chicken, veggies, etc. I've learned that when I cook food, I use minimal oil and/or other cooking foods because I'm aware of how they add up and realize that restaraunts are cooking their foods almost always in a large amount of oil and butter.
Oh. & *hands Dave a bar of soap*
They should post all nutritional information. That gives me a rough estimate of my macro allotment for the day. Regardless people are going to get whatever they want.0 -
Thank God we don't have a Cheesecake Factory here!!
Why?If you did are you forced into walking into the shop? We have plenty here near where I am... yet I've never walked into one...even when I was bigger.
Just cause it's there, does not mean you HAVE to go there.0 -
The MFP database is fairly comprehensive. I don't usually have any trouble finding some at least close to what I've eaten.0
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You want misleading? I'll give you misleading:
Cheesecake Factory's Crispy Chicken Costoletta - According to the menu, it's a chicken breast lightly breaded and sautéed to a crispy golden brown. It is served with a lemon sauce, mashed potatoes and fresh asparagus.
Doesn't sound too bad right?
According to CSPI, it also has 2,610 calories, more than a 12-piece bucket of original recipe Kentucky Fried Chicken, and 4½ days' worth of saturated fat (that's over 90 grams).
Putting that information on a menu would probably keep people from ordering it. In NYC most places have to post calories. I love it
Yes, CSPI does say that it has 2,610 calories. And their xteeme eating 2013 report claims their number comes from Cheesecake Factory itself:So you might be a tad surprised to learn that, according to the company, the meal packs 2,610 calories (more than a day’s worth), 89 grams of saturated fat (enough for almost a full work week), and 2,720 milligrams of sodium (your limit for today and most of tomorrow). In fact, the dish has more calories than any steak, chop, or burger meal on The Cheesecake Factory’s menu.
http://cspinet.org/new/pdf/extreme_eating_2013.pdf
Butt the Cheesecake Factory website lists it at 1290 calories.
http://www.cheesecakefactorynutrition.com/restaurant-nutrition-chart.php?
The CSPI claim is incredible and probably wrong.0 -
I will say that the Cheesecake Factory nutrition info site is among the worst I've seen. More n/a than numbers.0
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I went to a restaurant last month and asked if they put anything on their steamed vegetable. The waitress said just some seasoning. The seasoning turned out to be butter. :grumble:0
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I feel the same way but have limited my restaurant eating so it effects me less than it used to.0
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Went to Cheddar's tonight. I asked for nutritional info and they couldn't give me anything....waitress told me to look online. I did and nothing MFP has some things listed but it is a hodge-podge of their menu. I ended up ordering the vegetable plate...side salad with four vegetable sides and a croissant. I could tell there was butter on all the vegetables, and I did taste the croissant, but it was way to rich for me. Not going back until they have healthier options and nutritional information.0
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You want misleading? I'll give you misleading:
Cheesecake Factory's Crispy Chicken Costoletta - According to the menu, it's a chicken breast lightly breaded and sautéed to a crispy golden brown. It is served with a lemon sauce, mashed potatoes and fresh asparagus.
Doesn't sound too bad right?
According to CSPI, it also has 2,610 calories, more than a 12-piece bucket of original recipe Kentucky Fried Chicken, and 4½ days' worth of saturated fat (that's over 90 grams).
Putting that information on a menu would probably keep people from ordering it. In NYC most places have to post calories. I love it
I completely agree with you. I recently showed some of the kids in my class some pictures about that very topic (we must have read the same one - they posted a picture of this dish) and asked them to guess the calories. They were stunned when I told them. People don't know how unhealthy food can be. Heck, a lot of people don't even have an idea of how many calories they need to eat on a daily basis.
I even read about a chef recently who started retooling his recipes because he gained a ton of weight and started realizing he needed to make changes. Based on just that, I think it is possible to eat right - just restaurants (and chefs) need to start making food healthier or in proper proportions with sides that would lower the calories. Heck, I love fajitas but I don't need 20 ounces of steak for a fajita meal. I get annoyed when I ask for a steak and broccoli and they put like 3 florets on the side...common...give me more veggies!
Monica
P.S. No where does that indicate they included the mashed potatoes and additional sides....I suspect that's the calories for JUST the chicken. The mashed potatoes are on the list at 560 calories. I added the mashed potatoes and asparagus and it's still around 2000 calories.....WAY above what I'd eat in a day unless I were on the treadmill for two insane hours.0 -
I'm in So Cal and all the big chains, fast food or otherwise, have calories posted so I assume it's the law. Your local mom and pop shops DO NOT have it posted. My husband looked it up and found out that if the place has X number of employees OR more they have to post calories. I guess it was their way of letting the little guys get away with not listing them. Having calories listed at TGIF's, Chili's, and so on has helped us to NOT eat out nearly as often because we DO feel guilty. But.... it's about accountability. Before, we had no idea how many calories we were eating. We really like being able to make better, more informed decisions.0
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Cheddar's is one of my husbands favorite places to go. We go there every Friday. I hate it. I love the food but I have so much difficulty finding something that I can fit in my diet. I am getting tired of chicken or salad. They do have a wonderful club and I have it without the salad dressing, and take some other things off, can't remember what.0
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I love having nutritional info available. If a company doesn't care enough about me to provide that info. I don't care enough about them to buy their products. (Small, local places exempted of course. A lot of the little guys will provide ingredient lists and cook to order if you have dietary restrictions.)0
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