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  • amills1152
    amills1152 Posts: 63 Member
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    Maybe go see what the specialist has to say, make it clear you are looking to NOT have surgery and are simply looking for honest opinions (of course, don't rule out that recommending surgery could be beneficial for the doc's wallet, so feel out whose interests he really has at heart) but also, how many calories a day are you eating? Is it possible you're not eating enough? There's a GREAT post on here called "In Place of a Road Map" just do a search for it in the forum, it's a step-by-step on how to figure out what you should be taking in based on how much you're burning. If you're honest with the numbers, you might be surprised to find that you should actually be eating more calories than you think! It's worth a read! Best of luck! ^_^
  • cubbies77
    cubbies77 Posts: 607 Member
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    I am a doctor....you need to stick to a diet....its really just a matter of finding the number of calories that result in 0 net weight loss or gain and go from there....
    Its hard work!!!!!.... but just a matter of how many calories you eat vs how many you burn
    if you are not losing weight its simply because you are not operating at a net calories loss
    its really that simple!!!
    it you want a doctor to give you an easy option, then do surgery
    otherwise, speaking as a doctor, we really have no advice to offer other that what you already know (healthy foods, moderate portions, calorie count, exercise, etc...)

    I'm glad you aren't my doctor. My doctor was smart enough to test me for insulin resistance and thyroid issues instead of assuming I was lying about reducing my calories and exercising and giving me the same speech every other doctor had for the past *sixteen years*.

    Once the results came back positive for insulin resistance, he put me on Glucophage and told me to reduce my carbs to 30%.

    I wish he'd been my doctor when I was 19. We could have stopped this train before it started. I was 220 when I went to the first doctor who said, "Just eat right and exercise. You aren't actually hungry all the time. You just don't have control. Just eat lots of fiber." By the time I got to this doctor, I weighed 357 pounds. I'm glad he took the time to listen to me and believe me instead of feeding me the same old line about counting calories and getting off my couch. It's so freeing to feel satisfied after a meal and not have hunger gnawing at me every second of the day.
  • snshnkty11
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    I would up your exercise & speak with a nutritionist before considering surgery or pills. That's just me though. I mean there's no harm in speaking to them I suppose. But even if you had some kind of surgery, you would need to have self control & will power afterwards to not over eat & things like that in order not to undo all the good the surgery was supposed to do for you. So I would work on that now. How often do you work out? I try to do something every day. If I don't do something every day, I tend to get lazy & eventually stop doing stuff all together; b/c that one or two days off a week turns into more off days. :) You don't have to exercise a lot either. 20 min a day doing some kind of exercise would be good.
  • middllagedguy
    middllagedguy Posts: 118 Member
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    has your doctor checked your thyroid level? Many women develop low thyroid conditions after pregnancy (postpartum hypothyroidism), which would make it very hard to lose weight. Otherwise just keep doing what you are doing when you lose the 5 pounds, and stop doing what you are doing when you regain the 5 pounds. I'll bet there's something different.
  • sarahrbraun
    sarahrbraun Posts: 2,261 Member
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    On Friday I called my doctor and told him I've been having trouble losing weight. I told him I've been watching what I eat, counting calories, and exercising at least a couple times a week but haven't really been having any results other than gaining and losing the same 5lbs. I asked him what he thinks I should do different or change. He recommend me to a doctor's office that specializes in surgical weight loss procedures. But they do have one doctor that helps from a non-surgical standpoint. My question is should I do what my doctor said and make an appointment with this other office or should I keep doing what I'm doing but up my exercise?

    Leave everything alone EXCEPT, cut your carbs down to 100g net per day ( that is total carbs minus fiber and any sugar alcohol) for a few weeks. You may feel like you have the flu ( they sometimes call it carb flu), but your weight should change. I had an issue similar to yours...I gave the reduced carbs a chance for a month, and I lost like 8lbs! the second month I lost 6lbs, and the 3rd month I lost 4lbs.

    Lowering carbs is an option - but not necessary.

    OP, I started at 230lbs. I'm 5'6" and I'm 29 years old. I've lost 46lbs so far - the only thing I've done is stay under my calorie goal.

    How many days a week are you exercising? I find it hard to think that using the roadmap gave you a calorie goal of 1540. My calorie goal is about 2000 - and that's exercising 3-5 times a week (and I have a desk job). How did you calculate your numbers?

    I only suggested it as a way to break through this gain/lose cycle she seems to be stuck in. I did say for a FEW WEEKS.In my case, I promised myself that i would give it a solid month, and if I wasn't seeing results or I wasn't happy, I would go back to my old ways. For the most part, I have been doing this for 9 months now.
  • no1canadianangel
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    I have seen sooooo many people lost TONS of weight without surgery... you owe it to your body to do everything you can without cutting it open
  • shirleycooke35
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    Aniyahsmommy - you haven't said how much weight you need to lose or where you live. In Britain your doctor's advice and nutritional advice would be free but there could be a cost for surgery (unles deemed to be necessary for your health). To help yourself be absolutely honest. Weigh your food very carefully, log in to MFP and record everything carefully, log all your exercise. Avoid obviously fatty or sweet food. Weigh yourself once a week.

    I have tried to lose weight for many years attending slimming groups etc. Nothing has worked until I joined MFP. It is easy to use even for a elderly person like me!
  • grassette
    grassette Posts: 976 Member
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    If you weight only 225 lbs, you can loose weight naturally. Some people are advising that you get a good medical to make sure that you don't have underlying problems. That is good advice.

    Learn about nutrition. I don't know what you eat on a regular basis, but many people don't have a healthy diet. So learn about what your body needs, then measure it out.

    Be active. Wear a pedometer that counts out your steps so you can see how active you are during the day. Try to get in a minimum of 12,000 steps a day. You can pick up a good one for $25.

    Use MFP to log in exercise and food. Make sure that you are running a calorie deficit of at least 200 cals per day.

    Good luck. You don't need surgery to do this.
  • Pridgenization
    Pridgenization Posts: 65 Member
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    I think it is good to go and see the doctor. I went about 18 months ago and found out that I have insulin resistance and extremely low vitamin d. The doctor prescribed medicine (metformin) to help with my insulin resistance and vitamin d. Based upon several factors, she gave me a diet that fits my IR, PCOS and high blood pressure. I went every week or two for weigh ins. She would look over my food log and give me suggestions on things to change in my food choices. There are lots of different medical obstacles to losing weight. Its good to find out what they are and fix them, if it is possible. Good luck to you.
  • dym123
    dym123 Posts: 1,670 Member
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    I pretty much had the same conversation with my doctor last summer. I was complaining about the slow progress I was making, she recommended I see a nutrionist to evaluate my diet. Unless this other doctor is going to check for thyroid issues or diabetes, then suggesting weight loss surgery should have been the last resort.
  • Mcgrawhaha
    Mcgrawhaha Posts: 1,596 Member
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    theres pretty much 2 possibilities that i think it could be... 1. your either not logging correct or forgetting simple things such as coffee, creamer, ketchup, etc since these things actually can add up over an entire day or 2. there is a medical issue going on, possibly an underactive thyroid which would need to be diagnosed by a dr.

    if i had to choose which one is more than likely possible over the other, it would be number 1. last year, before i got super serious, i wasnt logging little things, and was guessing on portion sizes. these are things that really add up, and can end up sabataging you. in september, i started logging every ounce of coffee, cream, ketchup, salsa, relish, and any other condiment or drink that alot of people dont log... and also became very specific on my portion by measuring and or weighing everything. since september i have been melting fat off of myself.
  • Lissa_M
    Lissa_M Posts: 131
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    I am a result of RNY gastric bypass. I spent most of my life (and especially my adult life) battling with my weight. RNY was recommended to me 8 years ago, but at that point I decided to do the non-surgical route. I did the medically supervised diet, exercise route, tried a few prescription options and the bottom line for me was they didn't work for me. Finally, in 2011, my doctor told me that if I wasn't careful I would be dead by 40. I needed to lose 200+ lbs and the side effects from my type 2 diabetes were literally killing me. I had RNY gastric bypass in December of 2011 and its the best thing I have ever done for myself :)

    WLS isn't for everyone, but I would at least talk to both the non-surgical and surgical doctor and find out what your options are and see what work bests for you.

    I would definitely ask about having some blood work done. My pregnancy increased my insulin resistance and I had thyroid issues postpartum.
  • fmebear
    fmebear Posts: 172 Member
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    On Friday I called my doctor and told him I've been having trouble losing weight. I told him I've been watching what I eat, counting calories, and exercising at least a couple times a week but haven't really been having any results other than gaining and losing the same 5lbs. I asked him what he thinks I should do different or change. He recommend me to a doctor's office that specializes in surgical weight loss procedures. But they do have one doctor that helps from a non-surgical standpoint. My question is should I do what my doctor said and make an appointment with this other office or should I keep doing what I'm doing but up my exercise?

    A few thoughts on this ... have you gained all the weight recently? Are you losing hair? Are you losing eyebrows/eye lashes? Tired all the time? The reason I ask is that I am hypothyroid. It does affect my weight gain and loss EVEN if I watch everything I do. I have to make sure my thyroid levels are at the optimal level in order to lose weight as well as feel great.

    Ask the doctor to run a blood panel of everything - check EVERYTHING out first medically. I would just to make sure you do not have an underlying medical situation that can be corrected first. What I would hate to see happen, is to lose the weight (either surgically or on your own) only to have the medical situation sabotage it again.
  • mommyjos
    mommyjos Posts: 98 Member
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    have you had blood work drawn? I would make sure that you are where you're supposed to be with your body and maybe there's something underlying there. For me, I found out I have hypothyroidism and it was contributing to me not being able to lose weight! I had other symptoms of it and my dr. pushed it off as nothing. I pushed to do bloodwork and have seen a difference although I still lose way slower then I did before!
  • jlapey
    jlapey Posts: 1,850 Member
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    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/10067-eat-train-progress-

    Go to the above link and read all the threads with the red pins next to them. Very informative. You can also join the group and ask specific questions of the people who created it. Much more knowledgeable than the average MFPer. Good luck. You can count calories till you're blue in the face, but if the amount you count is too few or too many, it can be a problem.
  • marieyoung07
    marieyoung07 Posts: 23 Member
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    never do anything you don't want to
    you can always get a second even third opinion
    you always have dieticians and nutrionists
    do not let someone talk you into something you know you don't want to do
    best of luck
    :flowerforyou:
  • serenapitala
    serenapitala Posts: 441 Member
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    Both. If you feel like you can up your exercise, go for it, but make the appointment. Your doc knows your health better than us, so his advice is based on you and your history. It won't hurt you to see a specialist. After blood work and examination, the specialist may be able to give you a great, personalized plan.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    Because obesity increases risk for so many diseases, and weight loss surgery has become less invasive and has shown it can reverse insulin resistance and diabetes, more and more doctors are recommending surgery earlier than in the past.

    Whether that option is right for you is a decision only you can make, but getting good information before making the decision is always a good idea. It's not without risk and there are side affects to deal with, such as loose skin and muscle weakness. And you will still need to learn to eat within your limits or you can gain the weight back. If it's not what you want, then make that very clear.

    I would also agree with the poster who suggested consulting with a nutritionist first. Make sure it's a licensed dietician, but they can develop a diet specifically for you and test for food intollerances, if needed.
  • gimpygramma
    gimpygramma Posts: 383 Member
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    I haven't read the whole thread so possibly this has already been suggested but if you go to see the specialist, I am sure he or she would find it helpful to view a month of your eating and exercise patterns. I'd never checked it out before but at the bottom of your food page there is a link to a printable form of the page. Well that allows you to see and print blocks of time in one go.

    As far as your question, assuming the visit is covered by your insurance, well it doesn't hurt to listen.
  • Bobtheangrytomato
    Bobtheangrytomato Posts: 251 Member
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    Weight loss surgery is major surgery. You will need to go under anesthesia. There could be complications. I would consider it a last resort. You're young, with less than 100lbs to lose, and you haven't mentioned any weight related health problems. My advice is to do as much research as humanely possible. Take a nutrition class if you can, read books on nutrition (amazon.com can give you a list with good reviews. I liked Nancy Clark's Sports Nutrition Guidebook), see a dietitian. Do everything you can, then consider surgery.