Is it more than just counting calories?
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I have seen a lot of people here who eat back those exercise calories. If you burn it off, and then eat it back, you have not created a calorie deficit. Not sure if that is what you do, just putting it out there.
umm... wrong.
Your calorie deficit is built into the number MFP spits out. If you eat back your exercise, you still maintain your calorie deficit that you have setup in your goals.
No. Not wrong. The people who have talked about eating back their calories, are going by the little caption under their diary that tells them how many calories the earned through exercise. They are going back and eating what that little caption tells them.
yes, wrong. I promise.
Umm.... unless you have been reading my messages, you have no clue what I am talking about. I know when someone tells me that their calories OVER their daily plan are because they ATE BACK THEIR EXERCISE CALORIES BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY! Geesh. Carry on.
Wow, no, you are STILL wrong! MFP sets up a calorie deficit already. If you eat back those exercise calories, you are still at a deficit for the day. Also, you would NOT go over your daily goal this way. You would still be in the green. If you go over it is not because you are eating your exercise calories back, it is because you are eating more than your exercise calories.
Unless you have read the messages in my inbox, then again, you have NO CLUE what I am talking about. You are so stuck on what you think you know, instead of maybe trying to understand that when a person over eats because they think they wont damage thier progress..... oh never mind.... you refuse to get it. I am not here to argue. You enjoy your ego. I hope the rest of your day is as nice as you are.0 -
To the OP: Have you started any new exercise lately? It could very well be that your muscles are retaining water. Definitely give it more than 2 weeks! If you have been bouncing around different calorie or exercise goals, that could be why you aren't seeing a steady drop/change. Most people suggest you wait a month doing the same thing!0
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I have seen a lot of people here who eat back those exercise calories. If you burn it off, and then eat it back, you have not created a calorie deficit. Not sure if that is what you do, just putting it out there.
umm... wrong.
Your calorie deficit is built into the number MFP spits out. If you eat back your exercise, you still maintain your calorie deficit that you have setup in your goals.
No. Not wrong. The people who have talked about eating back their calories, are going by the little caption under their diary that tells them how many calories the earned through exercise. They are going back and eating what that little caption tells them.
yes, wrong. I promise.
Umm.... unless you have been reading my messages, you have no clue what I am talking about. I know when someone tells me that their calories OVER their daily plan are because they ATE BACK THEIR EXERCISE CALORIES BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY! Geesh. Carry on.
Wow, no, you are STILL wrong! MFP sets up a calorie deficit already. If you eat back those exercise calories, you are still at a deficit for the day. Also, you would NOT go over your daily goal this way. You would still be in the green. If you go over it is not because you are eating your exercise calories back, it is because you are eating more than your exercise calories.
Unless you have read the messages in my inbox, then again, you have NO CLUE what I am talking about. You are so stuck on what you think you know, instead of maybe trying to understand that when a person over eats because they think they wont damage thier progress..... oh never mind.... you refuse to get it. I am not here to argue. You enjoy your ego. I hope the rest of your day is as nice as you are.
You are trying to give very bad advice, and that is why you are receiving such a negative response. Unless all of us are misinterpreting what you are saying-unlikely-then you should not spread such misinformation on the forums.
Also I have no idea what you are talking about with the "messages in your inbox". Unless they are from the OP saying that she is eating over her exercise calories, which we can see from her diary that she is not, then it has no bearing here.0 -
I have seen a lot of people here who eat back those exercise calories. If you burn it off, and then eat it back, you have not created a calorie deficit. Not sure if that is what you do, just putting it out there.
umm... wrong.
Your calorie deficit is built into the number MFP spits out. If you eat back your exercise, you still maintain your calorie deficit that you have setup in your goals.
No. Not wrong. The people who have talked about eating back their calories, are going by the little caption under their diary that tells them how many calories the earned through exercise. They are going back and eating what that little caption tells them.
yes, wrong. I promise.
Umm.... unless you have been reading my messages, you have no clue what I am talking about. I know when someone tells me that their calories OVER their daily plan are because they ATE BACK THEIR EXERCISE CALORIES BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY! Geesh. Carry on.
Wow, no, you are STILL wrong! MFP sets up a calorie deficit already. If you eat back those exercise calories, you are still at a deficit for the day. Also, you would NOT go over your daily goal this way. You would still be in the green. If you go over it is not because you are eating your exercise calories back, it is because you are eating more than your exercise calories.
Unless you have read the messages in my inbox, then again, you have NO CLUE what I am talking about. You are so stuck on what you think you know, instead of maybe trying to understand that when a person over eats because they think they wont damage thier progress..... oh never mind.... you refuse to get it. I am not here to argue. You enjoy your ego. I hope the rest of your day is as nice as you are.
It doesn't matter what it says in your inbox. What you said on this thread is still incorrect.0 -
Sometimes, you just have to keep the faith and stay the course. I remember from former weight loss attempts that the scales will do funny things, like bump up for no reason, or stay the same for weeks on end, again for no reason that I could pinpoint. The body has to make a lot of internal adjustments that we know nothing about to convert from fat storage to fat burning, so if you keep doing what you're doing, results should show up eventually.
Be sure to change up your exercise regularly. If you do the same things all the time, the body becomes very efficient and burns fewer calories.
I really hope this is the case because I can't stand hitting these walls! lol I will be changing my excersise after reading this and everyone's posts.0 -
I have seen a lot of people here who eat back those exercise calories. If you burn it off, and then eat it back, you have not created a calorie deficit. Not sure if that is what you do, just putting it out there.
umm... wrong.
Your calorie deficit is built into the number MFP spits out. If you eat back your exercise, you still maintain your calorie deficit that you have setup in your goals.
No. Not wrong. The people who have talked about eating back their calories, are going by the little caption under their diary that tells them how many calories the earned through exercise. They are going back and eating what that little caption tells them.
yes, wrong. I promise.
Umm.... unless you have been reading my messages, you have no clue what I am talking about. I know when someone tells me that their calories OVER their daily plan are because they ATE BACK THEIR EXERCISE CALORIES BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY! Geesh. Carry on.
Wow, no, you are STILL wrong! MFP sets up a calorie deficit already. If you eat back those exercise calories, you are still at a deficit for the day. Also, you would NOT go over your daily goal this way. You would still be in the green. If you go over it is not because you are eating your exercise calories back, it is because you are eating more than your exercise calories.
Unless you have read the messages in my inbox, then again, you have NO CLUE what I am talking about. You are so stuck on what you think you know, instead of maybe trying to understand that when a person over eats because they think they wont damage thier progress..... oh never mind.... you refuse to get it. I am not here to argue. You enjoy your ego. I hope the rest of your day is as nice as you are.
REALLY?! You have a BASIC misunderstanding of how my fitness pal works. Multiple people are telling you that you are incorrect and YOU still refuse to set your ego aside. I don't pretend to know everything, but at least I will admit it if I am wrong - I even DON'T POST if I don't know the answer...0 -
I have seen a lot of people here who eat back those exercise calories. If you burn it off, and then eat it back, you have not created a calorie deficit. Not sure if that is what you do, just putting it out there.
This quote still stands as INCORRECT!
Doesn't matter what people are sending you in your inbox.0 -
I have seen a lot of people here who eat back those exercise calories. If you burn it off, and then eat it back, you have not created a calorie deficit. Not sure if that is what you do, just putting it out there.
This quote still stands as INCORRECT!
Doesn't matter what people are sending you in your inbox.
If they have red numbers, not green ones, then they went over. Period. Have a nice day. I will not return to explain this further to you or anyone else.0 -
Also, your macros are set up wrong as you should have Protein/Fats/Carbs in orders of priority whereas you have Carbs as your highest
Whats wrong with that?0 -
Unless you have read the messages in my inbox, then again, you have NO CLUE what I am talking about. You are so stuck on what you think you know, instead of maybe trying to understand that when a person over eats because they think they wont damage thier progress..... oh never mind.... you refuse to get it. I am not here to argue. You enjoy your ego. I hope the rest of your day is as nice as you are.
Overeating has nothing to do with the exercise calories. They could be logging their food and exercise incorrectly.
I've lost 45 pounds doing exactly what MFP tells me to do. If my weight stalls for a couple of weeks or so, it's usually due to too many carbs/sodium/water retention.
I don't care about your inbox.0 -
You guys have all been so helpful! thank you so much lovelies!
I am going to take everything into consideration and I guess experiment *cringe* XD0 -
I have seen a lot of people here who eat back those exercise calories. If you burn it off, and then eat it back, you have not created a calorie deficit. Not sure if that is what you do, just putting it out there.
This quote still stands as INCORRECT!
Doesn't matter what people are sending you in your inbox.
If they have red numbers, not green ones, then they went over. Period. Have a nice day. I will not return to explain this further to you or anyone else.
This person is obviously blatantly ignoring the OP's open food diary and just guessing at the fact that she might be in the red, which she is not.0 -
I have seen a lot of people here who eat back those exercise calories. If you burn it off, and then eat it back, you have not created a calorie deficit. Not sure if that is what you do, just putting it out there.
This quote still stands as INCORRECT!
Doesn't matter what people are sending you in your inbox.
If they have red numbers, not green ones, then they went over. Period. Have a nice day. I will not return to explain this further to you or anyone else.
Also wrong. If you have a 500 calorie deficit set up and you have a red number of -200, then you still have a 300 calorie deficit.0 -
If they have red numbers, not green ones, then they went over. Period. Have a nice day. I will not return to explain this further to you or anyone else.
Then, yes, red is bad; however, eating your exercise calories back doesn't always put you in the red. If people are in the red, they ate too much or didn't log their exercise.
If my goal is 1800, and I burn 400 through exercise, I can eat 2200 calories and still hit my goal of 1800. Exercise is subtracted from food, giving you your NET calories for the day.
Is math really that hard for you?0 -
You guys have all been so helpful! thank you so much lovelies!
I am going to take everything into consideration and I guess experiment *cringe* XD
Haha, just be sure to stick with your experiments long enough to make sure that it's working or not working before you switch to something else! Sometimes it takes some work to figure out what the right numbers are, but you'll get there!0 -
If they have red numbers, not green ones, then they went over. Period. Have a nice day. I will not return to explain this further to you or anyone else.
Then, yes, red is bad; however, eating your exercise calories back doesn't always put you in the red. If people are in the red, they ate too much or didn't log their exercise.
If my goal is 1800, and I burn 400 through exercise, I can eat 2200 calories and still hit my goal of 1800. Exercise is subtracted from food, giving you your NET calories for the day.
Is math really that hard for you?
Is it really that hard for people to understand that these people are not staying within theior guidelines? do you understand THAT? They have mistakenly went over because they were mislead by those "calories earned" . They are in the red, not the green.0 -
If they have red numbers, not green ones, then they went over. Period. Have a nice day. I will not return to explain this further to you or anyone else.
Then, yes, red is bad; however, eating your exercise calories back doesn't always put you in the red. If people are in the red, they ate too much or didn't log their exercise.
If my goal is 1800, and I burn 400 through exercise, I can eat 2200 calories and still hit my goal of 1800. Exercise is subtracted from food, giving you your NET calories for the day.
Is math really that hard for you?
Is it really that hard for people to understand that these people are not staying within theior guidelines? do you understand THAT? They have mistakenly went over because they were mislead by those "calories earned" . They are in the red, not the green.
No. Still wrong. See above.0 -
If they have red numbers, not green ones, then they went over. Period. Have a nice day. I will not return to explain this further to you or anyone else.
Then, yes, red is bad; however, eating your exercise calories back doesn't always put you in the red. If people are in the red, they ate too much or didn't log their exercise.
If my goal is 1800, and I burn 400 through exercise, I can eat 2200 calories and still hit my goal of 1800. Exercise is subtracted from food, giving you your NET calories for the day.
Is math really that hard for you?
Is it really that hard for people to understand that these people are not staying within theior guidelines? do you understand THAT? They have mistakenly went over because they were mislead by those "calories earned" . They are in the red, not the green.
Some people are just plain dumb on this forum0 -
You guys have all been so helpful! thank you so much lovelies!
I am going to take everything into consideration and I guess experiment *cringe* XD
Haha, just be sure to stick with your experiments long enough to make sure that it's working or not working before you switch to something else! Sometimes it takes some work to figure out what the right numbers are, but you'll get there!
How long is long enough to experiment? I need to get this right XD0 -
Is it really that hard for people to understand that these people are not staying within theior guidelines? do you understand THAT? They have mistakenly went over because they were mislead by those "calories earned" . They are in the red, not the green.
That's THEIR fault, though. When done CORRECTLY, they should still be in the green, even if they eat their exercise calories back. I eat some of my exercise calories every single day, and I stay in the green. I've lost 45 pounds. What part of that is so bloody hard to understand?0 -
You guys have all been so helpful! thank you so much lovelies!
I am going to take everything into consideration and I guess experiment *cringe* XD
Haha, just be sure to stick with your experiments long enough to make sure that it's working or not working before you switch to something else! Sometimes it takes some work to figure out what the right numbers are, but you'll get there!
How long is long enough to experiment? I need to get this right XD
no less than a month. Decide on a routine and give it a month to measure the progress. Also, make sure you are taking enough measurements to actually see the progress.0 -
I checked our your diary and noticed that you are eating white rice, noodles, etc on occasion. If you are going to eat carbs go with the complex ones I.E brown rice, whole grains, etc.....ditch any kind of carb that is processed.
You might want to eat a little less carbs, and more protein.
What is your exercise regimen like? I would do a routine that has you doing total body weight training three days a week and cardio (steady state and HIIT Training) two days a week. Then once you melt off some weight, you can go a little stronger on the weights and back off cardio to build in some lean muscle...
just my two cents worth...0 -
To the op experimenting works for me at a 2-4 week time period. You have to let your body adjust to the new changes and actually see if it works! Good luck, don't get discouraged0
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You guys have all been so helpful! thank you so much lovelies!
I am going to take everything into consideration and I guess experiment *cringe* XD
Haha, just be sure to stick with your experiments long enough to make sure that it's working or not working before you switch to something else! Sometimes it takes some work to figure out what the right numbers are, but you'll get there!
How long is long enough to experiment? I need to get this right XD
no less than a month. Decide on a routine and give it a month to measure the progress. Also, make sure you are taking enough measurements to actually see the progress.
I definitely will, thanks
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I have seen a lot of people here who eat back those exercise calories. If you burn it off, and then eat it back, you have not created a calorie deficit. Not sure if that is what you do, just putting it out there.
umm... wrong.
Your calorie deficit is built into the number MFP spits out. If you eat back your exercise, you still maintain your calorie deficit that you have setup in your goals.
No. Not wrong. The people who have talked about eating back their calories, are going by the little caption under their diary that tells them how many calories the earned through exercise. They are going back and eating what that little caption tells them.
You are wrong. MFP builds in a calorie deficit. If you eat all exercise calories back you will be right at the initial deficit MFP created for you based on your goal inputs. The only exception is if you built your calorie burns into your TDEE by choosing highly active or moderately active. In this case, exercise estimates are already there and adding them again would be double counting. Most people set activity level to light or sedentary. In this case, eating exercise calories back IS what you should do and you will still have your target DEFICIT.
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Is it really that hard for people to understand that these people are not staying within theior guidelines? do you understand THAT? They have mistakenly went over because they were mislead by those "calories earned" . They are in the red, not the green.
That's THEIR fault, though. When done CORRECTLY, they should still be in the green, even if they eat their exercise calories back. I eat some of my exercise calories every single day, and I stay in the green. I've lost 45 pounds. What part of that is so bloody hard to understand?
One note of caution: if you have a deficit built in you can even be in the red and be ok. It depends on the size of the deficit and how much over target is consumed. If net calories includes a 500 calorie deficit and you go in the red by 100 calories, you STILL have a 400 calorie deficit. So, don't worry too much about going a little red.
You are totally correct that you can eat ALL exercise calories back and still be in the green (thus maintaining your FULL deficit target). I just wanted to note that being in the red does not necessarily mean you are no longer in a calorie deficit.0 -
You guys have all been so helpful! thank you so much lovelies!
I am going to take everything into consideration and I guess experiment *cringe* XD
Haha, just be sure to stick with your experiments long enough to make sure that it's working or not working before you switch to something else! Sometimes it takes some work to figure out what the right numbers are, but you'll get there!
How long is long enough to experiment? I need to get this right XD
I would go 2 to 3 weeks at least to see changes. Some might even say 6 but I could never stick it out that long.0 -
I think what Malloryknoxrox is saying is that some people add in their exercise calories, eat them back, and THEN mentally add in calories in the message at the bottom ("you have earned x calories from exercise today") and eat those calories as well. That would mean eating double the exercise calories so could possibly write off the deficit. I haven't seen that happening, though.
I found this thread useful http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-12 . Using that method allowed me to increase calories to a more sustainable level, and I don't have to think about exercise calories.
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I checked our your diary and noticed that you are eating white rice, noodles, etc on occasion. If you are going to eat carbs go with the complex ones I.E brown rice, whole grains, etc.....ditch any kind of carb that is processed.
You might want to eat a little less carbs, and more protein.
What is your exercise regimen like? I would do a routine that has you doing total body weight training three days a week and cardio (steady state and HIIT Training) two days a week. Then once you melt off some weight, you can go a little stronger on the weights and back off cardio to build in some lean muscle...
just my two cents worth...
Another 2 cents - try more green leafy vegetables and fruits. They are filling and should be part of a balanced, healthy diet. Although they show up as carbs, they are far less in calories than the starchs for the volume consumed.0 -
I checked our your diary and noticed that you are eating white rice, noodles, etc on occasion. If you are going to eat carbs go with the complex ones I.E brown rice, whole grains, etc.....ditch any kind of carb that is processed.
You might want to eat a little less carbs, and more protein.
What is your exercise regimen like? I would do a routine that has you doing total body weight training three days a week and cardio (steady state and HIIT Training) two days a week. Then once you melt off some weight, you can go a little stronger on the weights and back off cardio to build in some lean muscle...
just my two cents worth...
I mix my carbs, some complex some not but I'm willing to try having just complex carbs. Eating less carbs is so difficult for me, whenever I check the pie chart carbs is always higher than anything else LOL
I only do cardio at the mo, lots of zumba and dance central but I use weighted wrist and ankle bands, I am going to start lifting, just need to find a gym that allows pay as you go memberships XP0
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