anyone paleo and/or breasfeeding?

Im 27 and have 4 children ages 7yrs-8 months. we are not having anymore babies so i am fully motivated to make this permanent weight loss. our family eats paleo, and we are fairly new to the lifestyle.
i am 5'7", and 147 currently. my goal is 125. [ i have a small frame and was thin up until pregnancies] id like to get there as healthily and quickly as possible. i am also still breastfeeding my 8 month old.
it seems as though i am not losing right now, i dropped 5 lbs right away, but now i am staying the same. maybe i am being impatient (entirely possible ;) ) its been a week and i havent lost.
i work out vigorously 30-45 minutes 6 days a week.

any tips?

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  • bpmartyr
    bpmartyr Posts: 141
    Tip #1. Forget about the ridiculous fad diets aka Paleo.
    Tip#2. Track caloric intake and eat at a slight deficit.
    Tip#3. Use mostly nutrient dense foods but indulge in others that you enjoy.
    Tip#4. Profit
  • Bumbeen
    Bumbeen Posts: 263 Member
    Tip #1. Forget about the ridiculous fad diets aka Paleo.
    Tip#2. Track caloric intake and eat at a slight deficit.
    Tip#3. Use mostly nutrient dense foods but indulge in others that you enjoy.
    Tip#4. Profit

    Why is paleo a fad diet.

    Thanks.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    The statement that concerns me in your post is that you want to get there "as healthily and quickly as possible". The quick route to weight loss is rarely the heathy one. Rarely does quick mean the weight stays off and the quick route can mean the loss of valuable lean muscle mass in the interest of losing "weight" instead of fat loss.

    My advice to you would be the same as to anyone:
    -reasonable calorie deficit
    -diet of mostly nutrient dense food
    -regular exercise
    -time and patience

    2 additional things jumped out at me. You seems very focused on the scale and have a need to see progress. Weight loss is rarely linear. Some weeks you'll lose, some weeks you won't. The other is you are working out at high intensity 6 days per week. That is overkill and not only won't support your weight loss but could stall it as you are not giving your body enough rest to rebuild and you are keeping cortisol levels high. 3 or 4 days per week at high intensity 1 or 2 at low intensity eg a walk or leisurely bike ride and 2 rest days are MORE than enough. Many folks meet thier weigth loss goals working out only 3 days per week. Calorie deficit is for weight loss Exercise is for fitness.

    Yes, you are impatient. To the point where it may be counterproductive to achieving your goals. Best wishes!

    edited for spelling
  • bpmartyr
    bpmartyr Posts: 141
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    Why is paleo a fad diet.

    Thanks.

    fad diet
    Web definitions
    a reducing diet that enjoys temporary popularity.
  • Chief_Rocka
    Chief_Rocka Posts: 4,710 Member
    No, but I'd like to.
  • Bumbeen
    Bumbeen Posts: 263 Member
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    Why is paleo a fad diet.

    Thanks.

    fad diet
    Web definitions
    a reducing diet that enjoys temporary popularity.

    Paleo is based on modern peer-reviewed research, I believe you are referring to something closer to acai berry diets etc.
  • Chief_Rocka
    Chief_Rocka Posts: 4,710 Member
    Paleo is based on modern peer-reviewed research,

    Kippling pullups are based on real pullups
  • BondBomb
    BondBomb Posts: 1,781 Member
    Just watch your milk production. When my carbs got too low so did my milk. If you are fine then do what you want.
  • bpmartyr
    bpmartyr Posts: 141
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    Why is paleo a fad diet.

    Thanks.

    fad diet
    Web definitions
    a reducing diet that enjoys temporary popularity.

    Paleo is based on modern peer-reviewed research, I believe you are referring to something closer to acai berry diets etc.

    What you believe it is "based" on doesn't make it not a fad. The show Ancient Aliens is based on modern peer-reviewed research too.
  • Bumbeen
    Bumbeen Posts: 263 Member
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    Why is paleo a fad diet.

    Thanks.

    fad diet
    Web definitions
    a reducing diet that enjoys temporary popularity.

    Paleo is based on modern peer-reviewed research, I believe you are referring to something closer to acai berry diets etc.

    What you believe it is "based" on doesn't make it not a fad. The show Ancient Aliens is based on modern peer-reviewed research too.

    So why would you want the OP to forget about it if simple popularity is the only thing you were stating about it? If you already knew it had solid research behind it why would you suggest to forget it?
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
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    Why is paleo a fad diet.

    Thanks.

    fad diet
    Web definitions
    a reducing diet that enjoys temporary popularity.

    Paleo is based on modern peer-reviewed research, I believe you are referring to something closer to acai berry diets etc.

    What you believe it is "based" on doesn't make it not a fad. The show Ancient Aliens is based on modern peer-reviewed research too.

    So why would you want the OP to forget about it if simple popularity is the only thing you were stating about it? If you already knew it had solid research behind it why would you suggest to forget it?

    Other than the fact that the OP say she eats Paleo what does any of this have to do with her questions? Seems that folks should stop derailing her thread with an argument about Paleo and give her a little help. FTR my postiion on Paleo is that is a healthy but unessesarily restrictive diet that is onerous to comply with. But the OP wasn't asking if everyone thought she should eat Paleo or not.
  • bpmartyr
    bpmartyr Posts: 141
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    Why is paleo a fad diet.

    Thanks.

    fad diet
    Web definitions
    a reducing diet that enjoys temporary popularity.

    Paleo is based on modern peer-reviewed research, I believe you are referring to something closer to acai berry diets etc.

    What you believe it is "based" on doesn't make it not a fad. The show Ancient Aliens is based on modern peer-reviewed research too.

    So why would you want the OP to forget about it if simple popularity is the only thing you were stating about it? If you already knew it had solid research behind it why would you suggest to forget it?

    Your reading comprehension is horrible. Reread. I don't believe it is based on any sound research. You do. I believe it is unnecessarily restricting and burdensome which makes pretty much everybody I have ever met that tried it, stop. Once they get educated and realize you can lose and be healthy on a much more sensible and enjoyable plan, they stick to it and don't go back to the pseudo-science fad diet.
  • Lyra89
    Lyra89 Posts: 674 Member
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    Why is paleo a fad diet.

    Thanks.

    fad diet
    Web definitions
    a reducing diet that enjoys temporary popularity.

    Paleo is based on modern peer-reviewed research, I believe you are referring to something closer to acai berry diets etc.

    What you believe it is "based" on doesn't make it not a fad. The show Ancient Aliens is based on modern peer-reviewed research too.

    So why would you want the OP to forget about it if simple popularity is the only thing you were stating about it? If you already knew it had solid research behind it why would you suggest to forget it?

    Because it is so unnecessary!

    It IS a fad.

    Raw foodism is another gem.

    When will people learn that all they need to do to lose weight and feel great is to make healthy choices 80% of the time (unprocessed foods) and can indulge little and often in whatever they want...you only need about a 15 per cent cut from your TDEE to lose weight (fat) while incorporating moderate activity.

    There really is no need to hop on any of these diet band wagons.

    The human body is able to digest meats, grains, dairy, fruits and veg...but it can also digest gummy worms and twinkies.

    We aren't living in the stone age.
  • Lyra89
    Lyra89 Posts: 674 Member
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    Why is paleo a fad diet.

    Thanks.

    fad diet
    Web definitions
    a reducing diet that enjoys temporary popularity.

    Paleo is based on modern peer-reviewed research, I believe you are referring to something closer to acai berry diets etc.

    What you believe it is "based" on doesn't make it not a fad. The show Ancient Aliens is based on modern peer-reviewed research too.

    So why would you want the OP to forget about it if simple popularity is the only thing you were stating about it? If you already knew it had solid research behind it why would you suggest to forget it?

    Your reading comprehension is horrible. Reread. I don't believe it is based on any sound research. You do. I believe it is unnecessarily restricting and burdensome which makes pretty much everybody I have ever met that tried it, stop. Once they get educated and realize you can lose and be healthy on a much more sensible and enjoyable plan, they stick to it and don't go back to the pseudo-science fad diet.

    Yes, THIS. I only reached my goal weight after allowing myself freedom to eat whatever I wanted while making sure to hit my macro requirements. I happen to love a lot of healthy food, but I still eat white pasta and chocolate and drink alcohol. Just not all day every day!
  • FitBeto
    FitBeto Posts: 2,121 Member
    [

    Why is paleo a fad diet.

    Thanks.

    fad diet
    Web definitions
    a reducing diet that enjoys temporary popularity.

    Paleo is based on modern peer-reviewed research, I believe you are referring to something closer to acai berry diets etc.

    What you believe it is "based" on doesn't make it not a fad. The show Ancient Aliens is based on modern peer-reviewed research too.

    So why would you want the OP to forget about it if simple popularity is the only thing you were stating about it? If you already knew it had solid research behind it why would you suggest to forget it?

    Because it is so unnecessary!

    It IS a fad.

    Raw foodism is another gem.

    When will people learn that all they need to do to lose weight and feel great is to make healthy choices 80% of the time (unprocessed foods) and can indulge little and often in whatever they want...you only need about a 15 per cent cut from your TDEE to lose weight (fat) while incorporating moderate activity.

    There really is no need to hop on any of these diet band wagons.

    The human body is able to digest meats, grains, dairy, fruits and veg...but it can also digest gummy worms and twinkies.

    We aren't living in the stone age.

    Even though I internet love you I am going to argue the fact that yes it is not the stone age, but our bodies have not evolved fast enough to digest/process a lot of man-made items that are currently in foods. This is why we have heart disease, diabeetus, some cancers, etc.
  • Bumbeen
    Bumbeen Posts: 263 Member
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    Why is paleo a fad diet.

    Thanks.

    fad diet
    Web definitions
    a reducing diet that enjoys temporary popularity.

    Paleo is based on modern peer-reviewed research, I believe you are referring to something closer to acai berry diets etc.

    What you believe it is "based" on doesn't make it not a fad. The show Ancient Aliens is based on modern peer-reviewed research too.

    So why would you want the OP to forget about it if simple popularity is the only thing you were stating about it? If you already knew it had solid research behind it why would you suggest to forget it?

    Your reading comprehension is horrible. Reread. I don't believe it is based on any sound research. You do. I believe it is unnecessarily restricting and burdensome which makes pretty much everybody I have ever met that tried it, stop. Once they get educated and realize you can lose and be healthy on a much more sensible and enjoyable plan, they stick to it and don't go back to the pseudo-science fad diet.

    Tell me what is more enjoyable than a steak and sweet potato loaded down with butter and cinnamon?

    Besides that, as you've obviously taken on the opinion of lyle or alan, I won't bother trying to persuade you. But if you do find yourself bored one day you might take a look at this:
    http://robbwolf.com/2011/01/12/hey-robb-this-person-said-gluten-free-diets-are-bogus/
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    [

    Why is paleo a fad diet.

    Thanks.

    fad diet
    Web definitions
    a reducing diet that enjoys temporary popularity.

    Paleo is based on modern peer-reviewed research, I believe you are referring to something closer to acai berry diets etc.

    What you believe it is "based" on doesn't make it not a fad. The show Ancient Aliens is based on modern peer-reviewed research too.

    So why would you want the OP to forget about it if simple popularity is the only thing you were stating about it? If you already knew it had solid research behind it why would you suggest to forget it?

    Your reading comprehension is horrible. Reread. I don't believe it is based on any sound research. You do. I believe it is unnecessarily restricting and burdensome which makes pretty much everybody I have ever met that tried it, stop. Once they get educated and realize you can lose and be healthy on a much more sensible and enjoyable plan, they stick to it and don't go back to the pseudo-science fad diet.

    Tell me what is more enjoyable than a steak and sweet potato loaded down with butter and cinnamon?

    Besides that, as you've obviously taken on the opinion of lyle or alan, I won't bother trying to persuade you. But if you do find yourself bored one day you might take a look at this:
    http://robbwolf.com/2011/01/12/hey-robb-this-person-said-gluten-free-diets-are-bogus/

    Butter isn't paleo brah
  • Bumbeen
    Bumbeen Posts: 263 Member
    [

    Why is paleo a fad diet.

    Thanks.

    fad diet
    Web definitions
    a reducing diet that enjoys temporary popularity.

    Paleo is based on modern peer-reviewed research, I believe you are referring to something closer to acai berry diets etc.

    What you believe it is "based" on doesn't make it not a fad. The show Ancient Aliens is based on modern peer-reviewed research too.

    So why would you want the OP to forget about it if simple popularity is the only thing you were stating about it? If you already knew it had solid research behind it why would you suggest to forget it?

    Because it is so unnecessary!

    It IS a fad.

    Raw foodism is another gem.

    When will people learn that all they need to do to lose weight and feel great is to make healthy choices 80% of the time (unprocessed foods) and can indulge little and often in whatever they want...you only need about a 15 per cent cut from your TDEE to lose weight (fat) while incorporating moderate activity.

    There really is no need to hop on any of these diet band wagons.

    The human body is able to digest meats, grains, dairy, fruits and veg...but it can also digest gummy worms and twinkies.

    We aren't living in the stone age.

    Just because a population thrives on a new food doesn't mean it is ideal.

    In fact, all these people with obesity and celiac should DIE OUT due to natural selection leaving only folks who ARE able to process grains without any negative health effects. The majority of the western population cannot live a healthy life on grains and industrial seed oils. If little debbie cakes weren't unhealthy, then we wouldn't have an obesity epidemic.

    No other animal counts their calories. Humans do not need to either, if they eat food that they are adapted to consume without problems.
  • Bumbeen
    Bumbeen Posts: 263 Member
    [

    Why is paleo a fad diet.

    Thanks.

    fad diet
    Web definitions
    a reducing diet that enjoys temporary popularity.

    Paleo is based on modern peer-reviewed research, I believe you are referring to something closer to acai berry diets etc.

    What you believe it is "based" on doesn't make it not a fad. The show Ancient Aliens is based on modern peer-reviewed research too.

    So why would you want the OP to forget about it if simple popularity is the only thing you were stating about it? If you already knew it had solid research behind it why would you suggest to forget it?

    Your reading comprehension is horrible. Reread. I don't believe it is based on any sound research. You do. I believe it is unnecessarily restricting and burdensome which makes pretty much everybody I have ever met that tried it, stop. Once they get educated and realize you can lose and be healthy on a much more sensible and enjoyable plan, they stick to it and don't go back to the pseudo-science fad diet.

    Tell me what is more enjoyable than a steak and sweet potato loaded down with butter and cinnamon?

    Besides that, as you've obviously taken on the opinion of lyle or alan, I won't bother trying to persuade you. But if you do find yourself bored one day you might take a look at this:
    http://robbwolf.com/2011/01/12/hey-robb-this-person-said-gluten-free-diets-are-bogus/

    Butter isn't paleo brah

    Clarified butter is paleo. As I stated you haven't done any research on it or you would know this. White rice is also paleo(surprise surprise!)
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member

    The majority of the western population cannot live a healthy life on grains and industrial seed oils. If little debbie cakes weren't unhealthy, then we wouldn't have an obesity epidemic.

    O rly? So more than 50% of the western population can't be healthy eating grains
  • Bumbeen
    Bumbeen Posts: 263 Member

    The majority of the western population cannot live a healthy life on grains and industrial seed oils. If little debbie cakes weren't unhealthy, then we wouldn't have an obesity epidemic.

    O rly? So more than 50% of the western population can't be healthy eating grains

    Grains and industrial seed oils. Too much n-6, and gluten is implicated in many autoimmune diseases.
  • Lyra89
    Lyra89 Posts: 674 Member
    [

    Why is paleo a fad diet.

    Thanks.

    fad diet
    Web definitions
    a reducing diet that enjoys temporary popularity.

    Paleo is based on modern peer-reviewed research, I believe you are referring to something closer to acai berry diets etc.

    What you believe it is "based" on doesn't make it not a fad. The show Ancient Aliens is based on modern peer-reviewed research too.

    So why would you want the OP to forget about it if simple popularity is the only thing you were stating about it? If you already knew it had solid research behind it why would you suggest to forget it?

    Because it is so unnecessary!

    It IS a fad.

    Raw foodism is another gem.

    When will people learn that all they need to do to lose weight and feel great is to make healthy choices 80% of the time (unprocessed foods) and can indulge little and often in whatever they want...you only need about a 15 per cent cut from your TDEE to lose weight (fat) while incorporating moderate activity.

    There really is no need to hop on any of these diet band wagons.

    The human body is able to digest meats, grains, dairy, fruits and veg...but it can also digest gummy worms and twinkies.

    We aren't living in the stone age.

    Just because a population thrives on a new food doesn't mean it is ideal.

    In fact, all these people with obesity and celiac should DIE OUT due to natural selection leaving only folks who ARE able to process grains without any negative health effects. The majority of the western population cannot live a healthy life on grains and industrial seed oils. If little debbie cakes weren't unhealthy, then we wouldn't have an obesity epidemic.

    No other animal counts their calories. Humans do not need to either, if they eat food that they are adapted to consume without problems.

    I'm sure it has less to do with little debbie cakes being unhealthy than it has to do with people eating TOO MANY of them and moving too little.

    I was brought up on a junk food diet.

    I have since come to adore all grains, meats, fruits and vegetables.

    But I most certainly wont get fat if I eat ice cream or dark chocolate or white bread a few times a week.

    I don't count calories any more and I've maintained in my goal weight range :wink: Counting calories is needed for a short period of time for most people to adjust after years on a terrible diet with American-sized portions.
  • bpmartyr
    bpmartyr Posts: 141
    Apparently Kool Aid must be Paleo. Somebody has been downing gallons of it.
  • Bumbeen
    Bumbeen Posts: 263 Member
    I'm sure it has less to do with little debbie cakes being unhealthy than it has to do with people eating TOO MANY of them and moving too little.

    I was brought up on a junk food diet.

    I have since come to adore all grains, meats, fruits and vegetables.

    But I most certainly wont get fat if I eat ice cream or dark chocolate or white bread a few times a week.

    I don't count calories any more and I've maintained in my goal weight range :wink: Counting calories is needed for a short period of time for most people to adjust after years on a terrible diet with American-sized portions.

    You might not be fat but that isn't the only measure of health. There's nothing wrong with dark chocolate, ice cream is borderline. Gluten however should be avoided.... per the link I posted above. And I didn't say all folks are not well adapted to western diet. As I said all the people with diabetes and obesity would be dead if not for modern medicine, the population would shift towards folks that are able to process gluten without dying. Next to go would be the people with autoimmune disease. We would be left with a population that has no intolerance to modern western food and even possibly individuals that do not require a proper n-6:n-3 ratio.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    Besides the back an forth bickering!

    First wonderful job on breastfeeding! You are giving your baby the best nutrition and the best start in life. So I'm giving you a big hug! Second continue breasfeeding it's a wonderful way to burn calories you actually need more than when you were pregnant about 500 more than your nonpregnancy. It's also great to help return uterus tone and of course bonding with your precious child. If you are doing the paleo make sure you stay on your pernatal vitamins. One of the disadvantage to cutting carbs is you cut out a supply of B vitamins. You might want to consider adding a little extra whole grains and potatoes. Enjoy your fruit too. Of course vegetables continue to be a must! I would aslo look at adding some more essential fatty acids to you diet double check on mercury content for fish but you could get some of those great brain fatty acids for the baby from nuts like walnuts, almonds, and of course some of the nut oils I love canola! Keep it up mama youre doing great!
  • maybe i should clarify a few things :)

    i am eating a Paleolithic diet because it's what i enjoy. i do occasionally enjoy something not 'Paleo'. everyone needs a little indulgence sometimes. also, it may be a fad diet for some, and i can see the pseudoscience aspect of it, as well as a possible placebo effect.
    for me, however, it is more of a clean way to eat. i do not eat any processed or rather "man made" foods or chemicals that aren't intended to be food. i feel gross when i do. thats just me, no-body is cookie cutter :)

    i did say i want to lose the weight quickly and the healthy way, i understand that it will be 1-1 1/2 lbs per week or less. i AM impatient, its been 7 years since ive seen my abs ;) hehe i want to lose fat and become toned, i realize this obsession with the number is a peer-induced complex, i am working on that. i have lost a pants size, so in reality i am probably still losing fat. i am happy with that because i feel great!

    just looking for advice/encouragement to keep with the toning/cardio/healthy-even-if-i-have-ice-cream-in-summer way of life :)

    all good ways of looking at things!
    thanks all! keep the tips coming!!
  • forgot to add: milk supply is going strong! :) baby is plenty full, and thanks for the encouragement there :)
  • Besides the back an forth bickering!

    First wonderful job on breastfeeding! You are giving your baby the best nutrition and the best start in life. So I'm giving you a big hug! Second continue breasfeeding it's a wonderful way to burn calories you actually need more than when you were pregnant about 500 more than your nonpregnancy. It's also great to help return uterus tone and of course bonding with your precious child. If you are doing the paleo make sure you stay on your pernatal vitamins. One of the disadvantage to cutting carbs is you cut out a supply of B vitamins. You might want to consider adding a little extra whole grains and potatoes. Enjoy your fruit too. Of course vegetables continue to be a must! I would aslo look at adding some more essential fatty acids to you diet double check on mercury content for fish but you could get some of those great brain fatty acids for the baby from nuts like walnuts, almonds, and of course some of the nut oils I love canola! Keep it up mama youre doing great!

    THANK YOU!! <3
    I am currently taking b6, folic acid, prenatals, C, and drink a lot of water. I do love fruit. :) I still eat dairy, and so it sounds like i may be doing it right! who knew? ;)
  • jesindc
    jesindc Posts: 724 Member
    First of all, good job!! One thing that I found when I was breastfeeding, is that while initially, it seemed like breastfeeding helped speed up the weight-loss, as time went by, no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't lose that last 5-10 lbs while I was still nursing. Both my primary care doc and my OB said that studies indicate that your body can hang onto some fat stores while your nursing (sort of an evolutionary disaster plan). Anyhow, I kept eating clean and kept exercising and the weight came off slowly, but those last 5 pounds of baby weight didn't come off until after I stopped nursing (I then I had to tackle the weight I'd put on before I got pregnant.

    But the good news is, it did all eventually come off.

    Oh one more thing, you might try doing more weight-training verses cardio. For one thing, when you do a lot of cardio, it can make the milk taste different (apparently). While it's not necessarily unhealthy, your baby might protest.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    Im 27 and have 4 children ages 7yrs-8 months. we are not having anymore babies so i am fully motivated to make this permanent weight loss. our family eats paleo, and we are fairly new to the lifestyle.
    i am 5'7", and 147 currently. my goal is 125. [ i have a small frame and was thin up until pregnancies] id like to get there as healthily and quickly as possible. i am also still breastfeeding my 8 month old.
    it seems as though i am not losing right now, i dropped 5 lbs right away, but now i am staying the same. maybe i am being impatient (entirely possible ;) ) its been a week and i havent lost.
    i work out vigorously 30-45 minutes 6 days a week.

    any tips?

    Check out Marks Daily Apple site. There are a LOT of breastfeeding mothers.