Paleo/LC, nutritional knowledge andthe Dunning-Kruger effect

Acg67
Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
in Health and Weight Loss
Is it possible that the paleo diet and low carb diets make you dumber on the subject of nutrition, yet at the same time makes you think you know a lot about the subject? Using low carb and paleo dieters favorite sort of evidence, that would be anecdotal, that seems to be the case.

Could this also explain why you also see so many cases of special snowflake syndrome in these dieters, sheer ignorance of basic nutritional facts, despite fancying themselves as quite knowledgeable on the subject?

Or maybe they suffer from a form of true believer syndrome
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  • ChitownFoodie
    ChitownFoodie Posts: 1,562 Member
    Bump :tongue:
  • WinnerVictorious
    WinnerVictorious Posts: 4,733 Member
    Is it possible that the paleo diet and low carb diets make you dumber on the subject of nutrition, yet at the same time makes you think you know a lot about the subject? Using low carb and paleo dieters favorite sort of evidence, that would be anecdotal, that seems to be the case.

    Could this also explain why you also see so many cases of special snowflake syndrome in these dieters, sheer ignorance of basic nutritional facts, despite fancying themselves as quite knowledgeable on the subject?

    Or maybe they suffer from a form of true believer syndrome

    i think you are on to something here...
  • pastryari
    pastryari Posts: 8,646 Member
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  • bikermike5094
    bikermike5094 Posts: 1,752 Member
    Yes, I'm sure you are infinetly more intelligent and educated on the subject of nutrition and human anatomy than Robb Wolff, who is in fact a research biochemist. i can tell by looking at your abs.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Yes, I'm sure you are infinetly more intelligent and educated on the subject of nutrition and human anatomy than Robb Wolff, who is in fact a research biochemist. i can tell by looking at your abs.

    Why yes, he must be indicative of paleo adherents as a whole, how silly of me
  • rebeccap13
    rebeccap13 Posts: 754 Member
    Oh jeez...
  • halejr23
    halejr23 Posts: 294
    That's just crazy talk and blasphemy! ;-)
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    Is it possible that the paleo diet and low carb diets make you dumber on the subject of nutrition, yet at the same time makes you think you know a lot about the subject? Using low carb and paleo dieters favorite sort of evidence, that would be anecdotal, that seems to be the case.

    Could this also explain why you also see so many cases of special snowflake syndrome in these dieters, sheer ignorance of basic nutritional facts, despite fancying themselves as quite knowledgeable on the subject?

    Or maybe they suffer from a form of true believer syndrome

    i think you are on to something here...

    Just what I was thinking!
  • DontStopB_Leakin
    DontStopB_Leakin Posts: 3,863 Member
    Dude, we get it. You don't like Paleo. Fine. Good for you. If it works for some people, great. Good for them.


    Get over it and move on.
  • bikermike5094
    bikermike5094 Posts: 1,752 Member
    Yes, I'm sure you are infinetly more intelligent and educated on the subject of nutrition and human anatomy than Robb Wolff, who is in fact a research biochemist. i can tell by looking at your abs.

    Why yes, he must be indicative of paleo adherents as a whole, how silly of me

    Read his book, and if you can understand the science of it, it might open your eyes. Dont be a Thomas Friedman.....
  • alaskaang
    alaskaang Posts: 493 Member
    Absolutely, the high carb highly processed low fat typical SAD has got to be better for you..........NOT
  • Cliffslosinit
    Cliffslosinit Posts: 5,044 Member
    Dude, we get it. You don't like Paleo. Fine. Good for you. If it works for some people, great. Good for them.


    Get over it and move on.

    I love her, yes I do!!
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    Yes, I'm sure you are infinetly more intelligent and educated on the subject of nutrition and human anatomy than Robb Wolff, who is in fact a research biochemist. i can tell by looking at your abs.

    Why yes, he must be indicative of paleo adherents as a whole, how silly of me

    Didn't take long to get a working example, now did it?
  • Craigamears
    Craigamears Posts: 65 Member
    Is it possible that the paleo diet and low carb diets make you dumber on the subject of nutrition, yet at the same time makes you think you know a lot about the subject? Using low carb and paleo dieters favorite sort of evidence, that would be anecdotal, that seems to be the case.

    Could this also explain why you also see so many cases of special snowflake syndrome in these dieters, sheer ignorance of basic nutritional facts, despite fancying themselves as quite knowledgeable on the subject?

    Or maybe they suffer from a form of true believer syndrome

    This is quite interesting from a guy who Intermittent Fasts and has Chicken Breasts for breakfast. I don't remember Ozzie and Harriet serviing that up for the Nelson kids.

    I am not throwing stones, I am not a Paleo person but we are all delusional here in one way or the other. I am ovo-lacto and low carb - Just my personal delusion.
  • TylerJ76
    TylerJ76 Posts: 4,375 Member
    Dude, we get it. You don't like Paleo. Fine. Good for you. If it works for some people, great. Good for them.


    Get over it and move on.

    But most importantly...

    "DON'T STOP, BELIEVING!!!!!!!!"
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    Absolutely, the high carb highly processed low fat typical SAD has got to be better for you..........NOT

    OMG, are those the only 2 options? I'm neither doing paleo/ low carb or SAD. I must be doing it wrong!! :sad:
  • BurtHuttz
    BurtHuttz Posts: 3,653 Member
    I'm sorry, whom were you trying to make sound stupid here?
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
    I'm low carb. It works better for me than anything else has. Because it is easier to control my appetite and cravings. I am trying to understand what little real research is behind it. Of course as someone who failed high school chemistry this is a serious struggle, but it's worth it. There is a lot of junk science out there.

    But while it interests me enough to learn as much as I can learn about it, know what, in the end, what matters is it works. Yes I want to know why. Yes I want more good studies done. Yes it does matter. But not as much as the results I'm getting matter.
  • Proyecto_AN
    Proyecto_AN Posts: 387
    LOW-CARBER BUMP.
  • ToughTulip
    ToughTulip Posts: 1,118 Member
    Absolutely, the high carb highly processed low fat typical SAD has got to be better for you..........NOT

    OMG, are those the only 2 options? I'm neither doing paleo/ low carb or SAD. I must be doing it wrong!! :sad:

    Right? Lol one extreme or the other.
  • sarahisme18
    sarahisme18 Posts: 574 Member
    Actually, low-carb and low-cal diets do have effects on the brain. Just one article here:

    http://www.eatingwell.com/nutrition_health/weight_loss_diet_plans/diet_reports_information/is_dieting_a_brain_drain

    Many more to be found. Interesting!
  • supertracylynn
    supertracylynn Posts: 1,338 Member
    I've been awake for 6 1/2 hours at the moment, here is my cal/macro count:
    cals: 1,191
    carbs: 245
    protein: 33
    fat: 70

    I'm claiming it because I was 450 from my cal goal yesterday. I swear, though, that I'm thinking a lot more clearly this morning than I was last night!
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    Obviously it contributes to lowered brain function. Obviously.
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
    Obviously it contributes to lowered brain function. Obviously.

    Obviously! If you want brain food, McDonald's is the place to go! :tongue:

    I'll tell you from experience what influences brain function, although why I'm hanging around this insulting troll thread I don't know.

    Being fat lowers brain function in a major way.
  • waldo56
    waldo56 Posts: 1,861 Member
    The first step is understand that health food is a myth. The idea that one food can be healthier than another is just nonsense. An overall diet can be healthy or unhealthy, but that cannot be stretched to the individual components of the diet.

    The central core tenent of paleo and all other diets like it is utter nonsense. Its proof in people's minds is based on a series of strawmen arguments (the merits of paleo and other diets like it cannot be debated without use of strawmen by the paleo side). They have created an evil boogieman resposible for all the worlds ills, and that evil boogieman is that which is not paleo. No different than how political crazies strawmen explain their way to near insanity (no the president is not worse than Hitler, sorry).

    (Godwins Law FTW!)
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
    The first step is understand that health food is a myth. The idea that one food can be healthier than another is just nonsense.

    The central core tenent of paleo and all other diets like it is utter nonsense. Its proof in people's minds is based on a series of strawmen arguments (the merits of paleo and other diets like it cannot be debated without use of strawmen by the paleo side).

    Egad! You're right! I'm cured!

    *throws out steak and goes to live entirely on poptarts and chocolate bars*
  • waldo56
    waldo56 Posts: 1,861 Member
    The first step is understand that health food is a myth. The idea that one food can be healthier than another is just nonsense.

    The central core tenent of paleo and all other diets like it is utter nonsense. Its proof in people's minds is based on a series of strawmen arguments (the merits of paleo and other diets like it cannot be debated without use of strawmen by the paleo side).

    Egad! You're right! I'm cured!

    *throws out steak and goes to live entirely on poptarts and chocolate bars*

    Oy

    strawman.jpg

    Livin' in the land of strawmen.
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
    What I'm actually hoping is that every post in this thread is sarcasm. I did free weights at the gym today, I believe that is scientifically proven to break a person's sarcasm detector, isn't it?
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
    The first step is understand that health food is a myth. The idea that one food can be healthier than another is just nonsense.

    The central core tenent of paleo and all other diets like it is utter nonsense. Its proof in people's minds is based on a series of strawmen arguments (the merits of paleo and other diets like it cannot be debated without use of strawmen by the paleo side).

    Egad! You're right! I'm cured!

    *throws out steak and goes to live entirely on poptarts and chocolate bars*

    Oy

    strawman.jpg

    Livin' in the land of strawmen.

    Just in case you're serious, you said, and I quote: The idea that one food can be healthier than another is just nonsense.

    Okay, so who cares where I get any of my calories from? All food is the same, poptarts are just as healthy as steak or any other food. That is what you seem to be saying.
  • waldo56
    waldo56 Posts: 1,861 Member
    What I'm actually hoping is that every post in this thread is sarcasm. I did free weights at the gym today, I believe that is scientifically proven to break a person's sarcasm detector, isn't it?

    Poe's law strikes again...
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