Question about fruit and sugar

imagymrat

well, I agree that store bought fruit juice many times has added sugar. But even if you make the juice at home, you are essentially removing all fiber from the product, which makes the process go far faster, which is usually not a good thing

Thanks for your post above in response to my clarification of intentions.

With regards to this quote, what if fiber is already sufficient for the day and the juice is consumed with a healthy dose of protein and fat, thus "diluting" the insulin response and digestive rate?

That's sort of my point regarding looking at things in binary terms - in a vacuum if you will.

I have nothing to add....just wanted to say that you LOOK AMAZING!! have any close up of those guns of yours? hee hee..you are one hottie Stroutman! :blushing: :smooched:

stroutman81

Well, I gotta say, I agree with just about everything you say. And yeah, I exaggerate the point on sugar cuz well... it's a sugar discussion.

But,

I mean, in all honesty our discussion is probably more academic than not. I do agree, if someone eats completely healthy but then adds a glass of juice, it won't destroy, or even marginally impede their progress (you'd have to drink quite a bit of juice to do that I imagine). On the other hand, I feel like it would be a little irresponsible of me to not explain why eating too much sugar is bad if they ask.

Now when I say bad, all I mean is, it's probably not the best choice you could make. I'm under no illusion that adding a few hundred calories in the form of something sweet will kill your diet, as long as you get in the rest of your macros and vitamins and minerals, and you stay at or below your maintenance threshold.

I mean, the thing you gotta remember on these boards is, some of these people are truly desperate, and if someone they respect gives them the green light (perceived of course) to drink juice, I could see them actually chugging 20 or 24 oz of the stuff in a single day. *GULP* that would be pretty bad. I mean, even for the best of us, 120 grams of sugar in a sitting would be just brutal.

Granted nobody should be using these boards as their primary source of info, but some do. That's why I try to read my posts a few times before I hit post. More than once I've caught myself saying things that I know are right in concept, but may be taken wrong by some.

It's a pleasure discussing things with you. We seem to be coming from very similar places and have very similar opinions.

With regards to the desperation of some... I truly get that. I've been "an authority" on major diet forums for over 6 years now and have come to realize that people will grasp hold of the words any so called professional dishes out without any objectivity and skepticism.

As you and I both know, that's not way to analyze data regardless of who's presenting it.

And this is primarily why I go on these long diatribes. You're not going to see me give someone "the green light" to drink unlimited amounts of sugar. Rather, you're going to see me educate the "desperate" on why "some sugar" isn't going to make a lick of difference in most situations once you factor in the appropriate context that needs to be given... which I believe you and I successfully did here.

There's a big difference there.

For me, it's about helping people see the big picture.

In my experience, once you lead people to the big picture, it's the equivalent of teaching a man to fish rather than giving him a fish.

Based on some other threads I've seen you start or participate in, I have to believe you see where I'm coming from.

Thanks for the levelheaded discussion and look forward to communicating with you in the future.

stroutman81

I have nothing to add....just wanted to say that you LOOK AMAZING!! have any close up of those guns of yours? hee hee..you are one hottie Stroutman! :blushing: :smooched:

:blushing:

Thanks!

SHBoss1673

It's a pleasure discussing things with you. We seem to be coming from very similar places and have very similar opinions.

With regards to the desperation of some... I truly get that. I've been "an authority" on major diet forums for over 6 years now and have come to realize that people will grasp hold of the words any so called professional dishes out without any objectivity and skepticism.

As you and I both know, that's not way to analyze data regardless of who's presenting it.

And this is primarily why I go on these long diatribes. You're not going to see me give someone "the green light" to drink unlimited amounts of sugar. Rather, you're going to see me educate the "desperate" on why "some sugar" isn't going to make a lick of difference in most situations once you factor in the appropriate context that needs to be given... which I believe you and I successfully did here.

There's a big difference there.

For me, it's about helping people see the big picture.

In my experience, once you lead people to the big picture, it's the equivalent of teaching a man to fish rather than giving him a fish.

Based on some other threads I've seen you start or participate in, I have to believe you see where I'm coming from.

Thanks for the levelheaded discussion and look forward to communicating with you in the future.

As do I, keep the faith! And let me know where you got those lats and traps! I want some of those.