You don't NEED..............

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  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Physiologically speaking you do NEED carbs. To fuel your brain, or else it doesn't run properly.
    Maybe. Carbs are non essential though. You can live without them.


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    Can you give an example of a vegetarian food that doesn't have carbs?

    Yes please give an example!! I was a vegetarian for 24 years and I am mystified as to what you are talking about. Vegetables have carbs. Fruit has carbs. Nuts have carbs. Legumes have carbs.
    He said you can live without eating carbs. He didn't say, "you can be a vegetarian without eating carbs," so your statement doesn't apply.
  • shaxnax
    shaxnax Posts: 87 Member
    Our bodies can convert proteins to glucose.
    GLUCOSNEOGENOSIS. Essentially your body eats it's own tissue, which is harmful over a long period of time. First to go is the liver, which is mightily important to life.

    Not quite accurate:

    gluconeogenesis /glu·co·neo·gen·e·sis/ (gloo″ko-ne″o-jen´ĕ-sis) the synthesis of glucose from molecules that are not carbohydrates, such as amino and fatty acids.
    [/quote]
    how am I wrong? Your body is made from proteins which are made from amino acids. And according to my clinical nutrition book the first thing your liver converts is infact itself, and then finds other sources. Unless something has been discovered since the book was published in 2012...
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
    Physiologically speaking you do NEED carbs. To fuel your brain, or else it doesn't run properly.
    Maybe. Carbs are non essential though. You can live without them.


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    Can you give an example of a vegetarian food that doesn't have carbs?
    I eat less than <50g net carbs on a vegan diet. For example, the seaweed I eat has .8g of carbs per bag, the protein powder I use is 2g carbs per serving, and the bread I use is 8g net carbs each. If you live off of fruit of course you'd be eating a lot more carbs but I don't eat fruit. I can get all of my micros from vegetables.

    Oh so you don't really mean it when you say you don't need carbs. *eyeroll*

    Of course you need carbs.
    No you really DON'T need carbs. It's a non essential. I personally choose to eat LOTS of them though. I'm not against carbs. I started the thread to counter all the No meat, no carbs, no dairy, no fast food, no processed food health police.
    I guess not everyone has caught onto to it yet.:laugh:



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  • Songbird1104
    Songbird1104 Posts: 210 Member
    I TOTALLY need my diary. It keeps me sane! :wink:
    Yep. I don't drink dairy, but like my ice cream, cheese, yogurt and cottage cheese.


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    No, she said she needs her DIARY, because your OP said DIARY, not DAIRY. You missed her snarky comment. :wink:
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Don't forget happiness, joy, pleasure, etc. Those aren't necessary.
    No they are necessary. It actually helps with being healthy.


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    Health isn't necessary. All statements of "necessary" are only valid within a context. ;)
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
    You don't need the 49ers either but who else is going to kick the Ravens butts? For what it's worth I know very little about football and had to look up who was in the Superbowl lol.

    I don't need a lot of stuff, according to the Beatles all I need is Love...but love sure goes nicely with a scoop of vanilla bean ice cream ;)
    Blasphemy!!!! The 49ers are a staple in life!!!


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  • arlenem1974
    arlenem1974 Posts: 437 Member
    I what I want no matter what anyone says with in moderation. As long as I still lose weight I will continue to do so.
  • Go RAVENS!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
    how am I wrong? Your body is made from proteins which are made from amino acids. And according to my clinical nutrition book the first thing your liver converts is infact itself, and then finds other sources. Unless something has been discovered since the book was published in 2012...
    Well this is assuming that you AREN'T taking in protein sources. If that were the case, then your body would break down lean tissue.
    You aren't wrong, but the body has to be in a certain state for what you saying will happen.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
    I TOTALLY need my diary. It keeps me sane! :wink:
    Yep. I don't drink dairy, but like my ice cream, cheese, yogurt and cottage cheese.


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    No, she said she needs her DIARY, because your OP said DIARY, not DAIRY. You missed her snarky comment. :wink:
    Ahahahaha! I just went back and corrected it!!!


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  • Blasphemy!!!! The 49ers are a staple in life!!!

    I am surprised i was never disowned in my football loving family. Love of football skipped me but...I did play in marching band a long time ago lol
  • This is why carbs are important ... Complex carbs

    http://www.eatingdisordersonline.com/nutritional/carbs.php

    Get your facts right.

    And again... Go ravens!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
    Go RAVENS!
    Blasphemy! Flacco will soon learn that the 49ers D will lower his "elite" statis.


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  • shaxnax
    shaxnax Posts: 87 Member
    Our bodies can convert proteins to glucose.
    GLUCOSNEOGENOSIS. Essentially your body eats it's own tissue, which is harmful over a long period of time. First to go is the liver, which is mightily important to life.

    Not quite accurate:

    gluconeogenesis /glu·co·neo·gen·e·sis/ (gloo″ko-ne″o-jen´ĕ-sis) the synthesis of glucose from molecules that are not carbohydrates, such as amino and fatty acids.
    how am I wrong? Your body is made from proteins which are made from amino acids. And according to my clinical nutrition book the first thing your liver converts is infact itself, and then finds other sources. Unless something has been discovered since the book was published in 2012...
    Well this is assuming that you AREN'T taking in protein sources. If that were the case, then your body would break down lean tissue.
    You aren't wrong, but the body has to be in a certain state for what you saying will happen.

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    [/quote]

    Yes, I know. The original question was how the brain got sugar if you weren't taking in carbs. And gluconeogenisis is the answer. And yayaya now I just sound like a ***** even though I started replying because of the ridiculousness of the whole thread topic (which is why you started it no?)
  • No blasphemy! Baltimore born and raised. Get back to me after the ravens win the Super Bowl.....
  • kimosabe1
    kimosabe1 Posts: 2,467 Member
    maybe u can teach me how to kick your *kitten* considering your profession! (chuckle)
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
    This is why carbs are important ... Complex carbs

    http://www.eatingdisordersonline.com/nutritional/carbs.php

    Get your facts right.

    And again... Go ravens!
    Facts are that carbs are non essential for life. You CAN live without them. I choose not to though.


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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
    Yes, I know. The original question was how the brain got sugar if you weren't taking in carbs. And gluconeogenisis is the answer. And yayaya now I just sound like a ***** even though I started replying because of the ridiculousness of the whole thread topic (which is why you started it no?)
    I started it to COUNTER the "health police" that are against eating meat, dairy, processed foods, fast foods etc.

    They state we don't NEED it. Just like I stated we don't NEED TV, iPhones, etc.

    But we who like fast food, processed foods, etc. eat them because we WANT TO.


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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
    No blasphemy! Baltimore born and raised. Get back to me after the ravens win the Super Bowl.....
    How are they gonna stop Kaepernick and the pistol? With the exception of Seattle, no one really has yet. And Kap is getting better. With 2 weeks to plan and prep, I expect a 6th ring.


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  • NRSPAM
    NRSPAM Posts: 961 Member
    Our bodies can convert proteins to glucose.
    GLUCOSNEOGENOSIS. Essentially your body eats it's own tissue, which is harmful over a long period of time. First to go is the liver, which is mightily important to life.

    Not quite accurate:

    gluconeogenesis /glu·co·neo·gen·e·sis/ (gloo″ko-ne″o-jen´ĕ-sis) the synthesis of glucose from molecules that are not carbohydrates, such as amino and fatty acids.

    Amino acids are proteins... :(
  • ThaRealNicki
    ThaRealNicki Posts: 322 Member
    Diary
    What's wrong with diaries? Lot's of people like to write.

    LMAO! Noticed this right away!
  • BarackMeLikeAHurricane
    BarackMeLikeAHurricane Posts: 3,400 Member
    This is why carbs are important ... Complex carbs

    http://www.eatingdisordersonline.com/nutritional/carbs.php

    Get your facts right.

    And again... Go ravens!
    Good job at linking bro science
  • Lift_hard_eat_big
    Lift_hard_eat_big Posts: 2,278 Member
    Our bodies can convert proteins to glucose.
    GLUCOSNEOGENOSIS. Essentially your body eats it's own tissue, which is harmful over a long period of time. First to go is the liver, which is mightily important to life.

    Not quite accurate:

    gluconeogenesis /glu·co·neo·gen·e·sis/ (gloo″ko-ne″o-jen´ĕ-sis) the synthesis of glucose from molecules that are not carbohydrates, such as amino and fatty acids.

    Amino acids are proteins... :(

    What's being debated is the liver statement. Not the fact that proteins are hydrolyzed into amino acids.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    I'm going to give most of the people posting in this thread a pass because they seem new here. Reading thru the first 2 pages almost no one got the intention of this post. They don't get that they are on the same side of the argument as the OP.
  • VelociMama
    VelociMama Posts: 3,119 Member
    You also don't need

    Coach bags

    LIES

    Good post Niner.
  • Hbazzell
    Hbazzell Posts: 899 Member
    I don't think he meant you don't need all of those things at once. I think he meant you dont NEED milk OR meat etc.
    Obviously you can take all of those things out at the same time.
  • Hbazzell
    Hbazzell Posts: 899 Member
    I'm going to give most of the people posting in this thread a pass because they seem new here. Reading thru the first 2 pages almost no one got the intention of this post. They don't get that they are on the same side of the argument as the OP.

    Right?
  • BondBomb
    BondBomb Posts: 1,781 Member
    Reading comprehension for the lose in this one.

    Bond out!
  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
    Agreed 100%

    Except the I phone. That's a necessity.
  • weloveourboys
    weloveourboys Posts: 133 Member
    Physiologically speaking you do NEED carbs. To fuel your brain, or else it doesn't run properly.
    Maybe. Carbs are non essential though. You can live without them.


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    Sorry, I totally disagree. I would not be able to perform if I ate no carbs. Carbs fuel my workouts.