no carb diet is FAILURE

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  • sks120
    sks120 Posts: 2 Member
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    Carbs are essential to the human body. We don't produce them and our body needs them.

    Carbs are a nonessential nutrient. Glucose can be produced via gluconeogenesis from amino acids (protein). Essential nutrients are fats and protein.


    Your CNS needs glucose to function adequately, and gluconeogenesis cannot produce enough glucose for that over a long period of time. You don't want your muscles breaking down! It's much better to get carbs from things like whole grains, fruits, veggies, and legumes. By the way, essential nutrients include several vitamins/minerals that are found in carbohydrate sources!
  • Beautifulsoull
    Beautifulsoull Posts: 136
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    Couple of days out of the week my carbs may go over 150, esp. if I make peanut butter cookies and I eat them like crazy like I did earlier last week. But I usually tend to keep my carbs under 150 each day. I use to be a bread freak and now I might have a slice of bread every once in awhile. I'm more on whole wheat tortillas wraps now. Get your good carbs from your veggies and fruits. Limit the package foods as much as possible. Start learning how to cook your favorite freezer meals/package meals from stratch. You know exactly whats in it and how much.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
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    Carbs are essential to the human body. We don't produce them and our body needs them.

    Carbs are a nonessential nutrient. Glucose can be produced via gluconeogenesis from amino acids (protein). Essential nutrients are fats and protein.


    Your CNS needs glucose to function adequately, and gluconeogenesis cannot produce enough glucose for that over a long period of time. You don't want your muscles breaking down! It's much better to get carbs from things like whole grains, fruits, veggies, and legumes. By the way, essential nutrients include several vitamins/minerals that are found in carbohydrate sources!

    FTR, I am not advocating a low carb or no carb diet and the drawbacks of not having carbs as part of your diet are noted by you. A no carb diet is less than healthy and a low carb diet works for some and not for others. It is not my choice. That does not however change carbs to what is counted as an essential nutrient by the medical and scientific communtiy.
  • WinnerVictorious
    WinnerVictorious Posts: 4,735 Member
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    Carbs are essential to the human body. We don't produce them and our body needs them.

    Carbs are a nonessential nutrient. Glucose can be produced via gluconeogenesis from amino acids (protein). Essential nutrients are fats and protein.

    Fats, protein, electrolytes, carbs, vitamins.

    Edit: The body uses carbs to make glucose

    carbs are not essential. that said, there is nothing bad about them. they are a ready source of energy and it's probably a good idea to eat some amount of carbs throughout the day if you don't have any medical condition that warrants excluding them.

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/75/5/951.2.full
  • abrahamsitososa
    abrahamsitososa Posts: 716 Member
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    Carbs are essential to the human body. We don't produce them and our body needs them.

    Carbs are a nonessential nutrient. Glucose can be produced via gluconeogenesis from amino acids (protein). Essential nutrients are fats and protein.

    Fats, protein, electrolytes, carbs, vitamins.

    Edit: The body uses carbs to make glucose

    carbs are not essential. that said, there is nothing bad about them. they are a ready source of energy and it's probably a good idea to eat some amount of carbs throughout the day if you don't have any medical condition that warrants excluding them.

    Yes carbs are essential. There's no time for me right now to debate this. But it was nice listening to your guy's opinions.
  • MichelleLaree13
    MichelleLaree13 Posts: 865 Member
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    Eat tons of vegetables. Stay away from fatty meats!
  • Bailey532
    Bailey532 Posts: 65 Member
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    My thoughts exactly! I did Atkins for quite some time. Loved it. Now I eat my carbs at breakfast and lunch. No carbs after that. Trying it for a day sin't going to tell you anything. When I did low carb (almost impossible to eat NO carbs) if I ate carbs I got a horrid stomachache and sometimes even threw up from it.
    Wow... you tried for a WHOLE DAY and now you've given up?

    It works for some. Not for you but that's okay. Like Mokey41 says, log your food, stay in your calorie budget. Calories in vs. calories out = the answer.

    If you really want answers instead of passing judgement based on your one day of testing run a search on topics like "healthy diet', "low carb diet", "vegetarian diet" ~ whatever you fancy. Spend some time reading and learning. That will get you much better results.

    Good luck. It's a journey, a lifestyle change; no quick fix answers will last.
  • blu_meanie_ca
    blu_meanie_ca Posts: 352 Member
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    BTW.. frozen veggies are a great option. They are more cost effective, and often picked riper than fresh veggies. It's really a 50/50 over cooked vs fresh. Cooked vegitables loose some fiber/nutrients, but, what is left is easier for your body to absorbe. So, which ever you like better. Canning robs food of almost all of it's nutritional value due to the very high heat it is subjected to.

    Almost everything has carbs. If you try for a 0% carb load you'll find yourself with very little to eat. If you are concerned about your blood sugar levels then aim for no more than 120 net carbs a day (although, you don't even need that many).
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
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    Carbs are essential to the human body. We don't produce them and our body needs them.

    Carbs are a nonessential nutrient. Glucose can be produced via gluconeogenesis from amino acids (protein). Essential nutrients are fats and protein.

    Fats, protein, electrolytes, carbs, vitamins.

    Edit: The body uses carbs to make glucose

    carbs are not essential. that said, there is nothing bad about them. they are a ready source of energy and it's probably a good idea to eat some amount of carbs throughout the day if you don't have any medical condition that warrants excluding them.

    Yes carbs are essential. There's no time for me right now to debate this. But it was nice listening to your guy's opinions.

    You can insist on this all you want but it is incorrect. Feel free to google essential nutrients. The facts are pretty easy to find. An essential nutrient is one that cannot be sythesized by your body. As has been mentioned, glucose can be sythesized from amino acids.
  • abrahamsitososa
    abrahamsitososa Posts: 716 Member
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    Do you know the difference between simple carbohydrates and complex carbohydrates?
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
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    Do you know the difference between simple carbohydrates and complex carbohydrates?

    Of course. Is this some kind of trick question?
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
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    Definition of essential nutrients:

    "An essential nutrient is a nutrient required for normal body functioning that either cannot be synthesized by the body at all, or cannot be synthesized in amounts adequate for good health (e.g. niacin, choline), and thus must be obtained from a dietary source. Essential nutrients are also defined by the collective physiological evidence for their importance in the diet, as represented in e.g. US government approved tables for Dietary Reference Intake.[1]

    Some categories of essential nutrients include vitamins, dietary minerals, essential fatty acids, and essential amino acids. Different species have very different essential nutrients. For example, most mammals synthesize their own ascorbic acid, and it is therefore not considered an essential nutrient for such species. It is, however, an essential nutrient for human beings, who require external sources of ascorbic acid (known as Vitamin C in the context of nutrition)."

    Does anyone see carbohydrates listed here?? You probably can't get vitamin C or other micronutrients without them but they are not listed. I didn't create the definition, I just copied and pasted it. This is the standard medical defintiion.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
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    Definition of essential nutrients:

    "An essential nutrient is a nutrient required for normal body functioning that either cannot be synthesized by the body at all, or cannot be synthesized in amounts adequate for good health (e.g. niacin, choline), and thus must be obtained from a dietary source. Essential nutrients are also defined by the collective physiological evidence for their importance in the diet, as represented in e.g. US government approved tables for Dietary Reference Intake.[1]

    Some categories of essential nutrients include vitamins, dietary minerals, essential fatty acids, and essential amino acids. Different species have very different essential nutrients. For example, most mammals synthesize their own ascorbic acid, and it is therefore not considered an essential nutrient for such species. It is, however, an essential nutrient for human beings, who require external sources of ascorbic acid (known as Vitamin C in the context of nutrition)."

    Does anyone see carbohydrates listed here?? You probably can't get vitamin C or other micronutrients without them but they are not listed. I didn't create the definition, I just copied and pasted it. This is the standard medical defintiion.

    Going to have to vote with mamapags here as it is true that your body can make blood glucose (your body's primary fuel along with fatty acids) out of just about anything you decide to put into your mouth. Now, as he has noted, it could be difficult to impossible to get some micro-nutrients from a diet that excludes carbohydrates but you can be well-nourished on a diet that excludes sugar (devoid of micronutrients) and wheat (vegetables and fruits can provide all of the nutrients it provides--and then some). In addition, there are many other grains that are at least as nourishing.
  • toxikon
    toxikon Posts: 2,384 Member
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    I'm doing low-carb and so far it's been great, and I've had a lot of variety in my diet and I have been feeling full and satisfied. I try to aim for under 100 grams a day.

    No-carb seems super difficult.
  • tekwriter
    tekwriter Posts: 923 Member
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    If you want to reduce the carbohydrate in your diet, try reducing some of the white carbs, bread, pasta and white rice. You can minimize the over processed carbs and rely on whole grains and fruits for your carbs.
  • weloveourboys
    weloveourboys Posts: 133 Member
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    The whole "war on carbs" really grinds my gears. Your body NEEDS carbs for energy. They serve a vital function. To cut them out is faddy and not a healthy long-term eating plan. Around 33% of your calorie intake should come from carbs.

    I agree with this - except I get around 55-60% of my diet from carbs, and I'm healthy and fit, and trim to boot. Carbs rock, especially for people who do endurance sports.
  • upgetupgetup
    upgetupgetup Posts: 749 Member
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    I was seriously mentally compromised near the middle of the week and a half I did something like this.

    You could do 1 piece of bread with breakfast, 1 serving grainy carb for lunch & dinner each. Or cut one out of the last two meals.
  • benflando
    benflando Posts: 193
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    Find a good carb source for you. Everyone is different. People react differently with different foods. I KNOW, it's not fair. For me personally, its rice cakes, popchips, brown rice, spinach, berries.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
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    No-carb seems super difficult.

    In addition to being quite unhealthy. I know a couple of people now who stayed below 20 grams of carbohydrates for a number of months. They lost a lot of weight but they both became ill, were counseled by their docs to go off the diets and both ended up regaining most of the weight that they lost.

    It is dangerous to go below 60 grams of carbs per day long term. You can experiment with carb levels between 60-200 grams. When I stay around 100 grams to 150 grams, I don't get hungry even when my calories are below what MFP says I should be eating per day (1,620). On my heavier exercise days, I try to bump up my carbs toward 175 grams but I find it difficult to eat that many carbs (since I don't eat sugar or wheat).
  • Yafai001
    Yafai001 Posts: 4
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    No-carb seems super difficult.

    In addition to being quite unhealthy. I know a couple of people now who stayed below 20 grams of carbohydrates for a number of months. They lost a lot of weight but they both became ill, were counseled by their docs to go off the diets and both ended up regaining most of the weight that they lost.

    It is dangerous to go below 60 grams of carbs per day long term. You can experiment with carb levels between 60-200 grams. When I stay around 100 grams to 150 grams, I don't get hungry even when my calories are below what MFP says I should be eating per day (1,620). On my heavier exercise days, I try to bump up my carbs toward 175 grams but I find it difficult to eat that many carbs (since I don't eat sugar or wheat).

    Can you provide proof that it is dangerous to go below 60 grams of carbs per day? I've been doing that for well over a year now and I am doing just fine.

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