Wheat Free/Paleo

sunnylv

Looking for some friends to join with to encourage and support. I live wheat free. I am not celiac. I choose to eat this because the research makes sense and I feel better. Check out Mark's Daily Apple and read Wheat Belly by Dr. William Davis. In one year, I have lost 20 lbs. so far. I need to lose 20 more!

alaskaang

I'd suggest checking out the Paleo group.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/54-primal-paleo-support-group

Christy1125

Hello, my name is Christy. I just stumbled upon Dr. Davis book a couple of days ago. I haven't read the book just the reviews online and wow. I have used low carb diets before but never omitted wheat. This is something I would like to try, well not just try, do. I am sure however that I will need support in this area. I will order the book near the end of this week but am already cutting the wheat. If you'd like to add me as a friend feel free. I haven't been on here but I will be, mostly for tracking my weight. Good luck on your progress to those last 20 pounds and congrats on the 20 pound loss you've already had.

Squidgrok

Im doing it as a trial run, open diary, would like more friends on paleo or WB feel free to add me

sunnylv

I added you! This will be the last change you will ever make! Check out Mark's Daily Apple on the internet too!

linbert57

I eliminated wheat from my diet mid December. I feel so much better. I did read Dr. Davis' Wheat Belly book too. I will send you a friend request. I joined MFP 12/31/12 and I love the site.

SamAdams125

I actually happened to read the Wheat Belly book yesterday (a friend recommended it). I already eat very little wheat so (after reading the book) decided to go ahead and go wheat-free. We'll see how it goes!

FredDoyle

"Wheat Belly" is unsupported. Davis is selling sensationalist books.

http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/library/popups/wheatfacts.jsp

DrBroPHD

I agree, if it is in a book it must be true

apbradley208

I just recently went wheat free due to finding out about a wheat sensitivity on an allergy test. This is my first full week of wheat free and I feel great. My son is eating wheat free as well because he has the same sensitivity. I've been reading up a lot on the Paleo diet and lifestyle. I just have a hard time giving up dairy (cheese in particular). Some help/support/friends would be awesome!

Craigamears

"Wheat Belly" is unsupported. Davis is selling sensationalist books.

http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/library/popups/wheatfacts.jsp

I am not sure that information from the Canadian Wheat Board would be considered a non-biased source of info. Let's have the Diabetetics read the National Sugar Council info for help with their condition :laugh:

FredDoyle

"Wheat Belly" is unsupported. Davis is selling sensationalist books.

http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/library/popups/wheatfacts.jsp

I am not sure that information from the Canadian Wheat Board would be considered a non-biased source of info. Let's have the Diabetetics read the National Sugar Council info for help with their condition :laugh:

Yes, ignore all the citations at the end of the article.

neanderthin

"Wheat Belly" is unsupported. Davis is selling sensationalist books.

http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/library/popups/wheatfacts.jsp

I am not sure that information from the Canadian Wheat Board would be considered a non-biased source of info. Let's have the Diabetetics read the National Sugar Council info for help with their condition :laugh:

Yes, ignore all the citations at the end of the article.

Yes, why get unbiased scientific references involved, makes no sense.

Keiras_Mom

I'm currently reading Wheat Belly and plan to at least try going GF for a couple of weeks, but haven't fully committed yet.

Craigamears

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Sir, I have looked at most of the citations. Most are from pro-grain websites put up by industry like the baker's association and grain farmers. The eatrightontario site speaks to the advantages of whole grains versus processed. It does not address the possibility of systemic inflammation. The celiac site which is repeated times actually says that celiacs should avoid gluten at all costs.

So, Dr. Bro... I really don't see any peer reviewed literature on the site that supports the need for wheat in anyone's diet. If this was so then people in SE asia eating primarily rice as their carb would be in deep KimChee!!

Their are probably some papers that support your hypothesis but this site is not the one I would use to support your defense of your dissertation. Perhaps Bro U has different graduate requirements.

trojanbb

"Wheat Belly" is unsupported. Davis is selling sensationalist books.

http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/library/popups/wheatfacts.jsp

I am not sure that information from the Canadian Wheat Board would be considered a non-biased source of info. Let's have the Diabetetics read the National Sugar Council info for help with their condition :laugh:

Yes, ignore all the citations at the end of the article.

You can find peer reviewed source and citations for nearly every possible argument and perspective. The presence of citations means absolutely nothing. I can show you citations and studies for hundreds of disproven scientific theories.

FredDoyle

The page at CWB is addressing the claims in Davis's book. He has to back up his claims. I would expect a company to defend a product against bogus claims. Yes, the Canadian government is in on the conspiracy as well.
Big Wheat. In bed with Big Tobacco and Big Pharma probably and just as deadly to all mankind.

CoffeeNBooze

I started primal earlier this week and the benefits are incredible! Would love some supportive, paleo/primal friends!! Please add me, and just let me know why so I don't decline

neanderthin

How does consuming whole grain increase systematic inflammation. What in wheat does that?

FredDoyle

"Wheat Belly" is unsupported. Davis is selling sensationalist books.

http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/library/popups/wheatfacts.jsp

I am not sure that information from the Canadian Wheat Board would be considered a non-biased source of info. Let's have the Diabetetics read the National Sugar Council info for help with their condition :laugh:

Yes, ignore all the citations at the end of the article.

You can find peer reviewed source and citations for nearly every possible argument and perspective. The presence of citations means absolutely nothing. I can show you citations and studies for hundreds of disproven scientific theories.

Great reason to believe the anecdotal evidence in the book then. :huh:

PaleoPath4Lyfe

"Wheat Belly" is unsupported. Davis is selling sensationalist books.

http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/library/popups/wheatfacts.jsp

I am not sure that information from the Canadian Wheat Board would be considered a non-biased source of info. Let's have the Diabetetics read the National Sugar Council info for help with their condition :laugh:

Yes, ignore all the citations at the end of the article.

You can find peer reviewed source and citations for nearly every possible argument and perspective. The presence of citations means absolutely nothing. I can show you citations and studies for hundreds of disproven scientific theories.

Great reason to believe the anecdotal evidence in the book then. :huh:

Have you read the book to call it "anecdotal evidence"?

alaskaang

How does consuming whole grain increase systematic inflammation. What in wheat does that?

Wheat is one of the top ten allergens. Most allergic reactions include inflammation.

From the excerpt in "The Encyclopedia of Healing Foods" which starts by stating "wheat is the most important grain in that it provides more nourishment for more people throughout the world than any other food" ends with stating that "wheat is a common food allergen, especially in children. Common symptoms associated with an allergic reaction to wheat products include chronic gastrointestinal disturbances; frequent infections, asthma and sinusitis symptoms; excema, skin rash, acne, and hives; bursitis and joint pains; faigue, headache, and migraine".

neanderthin

How does consuming whole grain increase systematic inflammation. What in wheat does that?

Wheat is one of the top ten allergens. Most allergic reactions include inflammation.

From the excerpt in "The Encyclopedia of Healing Foods" which starts by stating "wheat is the most important grain in that it provides more nourishment for more people throughout the world than any other food" ends with stating that "wheat is a common food allergen, especially in children. Common symptoms associated with an allergic reaction to wheat products include chronic gastrointestinal disturbances; frequent infections, asthma and sinusitis symptoms; excema, skin rash, acne, and hives; bursitis and joint pains; faigue, headache, and migraine".

I agree it can be a problem for some people. In Canada peanuts are number 1, wheat is number 8. I would never suggest someone consume something they're allergic to and if someone suspects they are they should get tested. That doesn't mean I shouldn't eat peanuts, seafood, tree nuts, eggs, milk, wheat etc.

SamAdams125

I agree it can be a problem for some people. In Canada peanuts are number 1, wheat is number 8. I would never suggest someone consume something they're allergic to and if someone suspects they are they should get tested. That doesn't mean I shouldn't eat peanuts, seafood, tree nuts, eggs, milk, wheat etc.

I don't think the OP was suggesting that everyone should avoid wheat. She was just looking for other people who do and would like to support each other in that choice, swap recipes, etc.

strychnine7

Another paleo thread getting hijacked by CW folks. Go figure. I can see why one should stick to group forums. And so I think I will.

Pollywog_la

"Wheat Belly" is unsupported. Davis is selling sensationalist books.

http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/library/popups/wheatfacts.jsp

CWB stands for Canadian Wheat Board. You think they might be a little biased?
Whether Dr. Davis makes unsupported claims or not, this link is full of its own errors and obfuscations.

"Wheat is the single most important source of plant protein in our diet"
Wheat is very endemic in our diet, so this just means we eat a lot of it, therefore it is important by default. But it is not important to people who do not consume wheat...they have different "most important source of plant protein" in their diets.

"Wheat, in its natural unrefined state, is a good source of fibre, manganese, and magnesium (a mineral that acts as a co-factor for enzymes involved in the body's use of glucose and insulin secretion"
It is very rarely sold in its "natural unrefined state", so this is meaningless.

"Products that list "whole grain whole wheat" or "whole wheat flour with added germ" in the ingredient section are the most nutritious wheat products."
If one thinks wheat products in general are not optimal for human health, than something being its most nutritious option is also meaningless.

"Grain products provide an important source of energy"
Lots of foods can make this claim. And again, it is important if you consume wheat. If you do not, it is not important at all.


When Dr. Davis is mentioned, they claim there is no GMO wheat on the market (which is not an issue) and ignores Dr. Davis' REAL claim...that the current version of wheat was bred to be more hardy and yield larger amounts of grain, but has the unintended consequence of gliadin in the wheat, negatively affecting people.

I cannot speak with authority on their claims of celiac disease, but their statement that it is genetic doesn't support their position that wheat hasn't changed for the worse. It could very well be genetic, but it now expresses itself more because modern wheat reacts with this genetic trait more than archaic wheat strains. CWB acknowledges celiac disease is on the rise, but claims this is due to education and better diagnosis.

Basically, the page will seem good to someone who supports eating wheat, but is hardly convincing to anyone skeptical of consuming wheat. I would expect better argumentation.

anitaplus4

You guys can add me. I just started the Paleo diet yesterday.

neanderthin

Basically, the page will seem good to someone who supports eating wheat, but is hardly convincing to anyone skeptical of consuming wheat. I would expect better argumentation.

Why did Dr Davis say that finding gluten free substitutions to things like bread and pasta will have similar effects lol. Sounds like he's riding shotgun on the low carb diet, which he promotes all the way through this book, lets face it it's a diet book, but is using wheat as the ammunition (popular trend) to sell his book.

If your interested.

http://www.aaccnet.org/publications/plexus/cfw/pastissues/2012/OpenDocuments/CFW-57-4-0177.pdf

osmom3kids

My oldest son was diagnosed with celiac in 2008 and our whole familiy has been gluten free since then.

Riemersma4

I agree, if it is in a book it must be true

yep, read it on the Internet, too.....