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  • AJL_Daddy
    AJL_Daddy Posts: 525 Member
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    The rest of the story is that the pastor (who is a woman) left a $6 cash tip on the table.
    That's what she told TSG when they called her up. Not verified by anyone else.

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/tipping-pastor-apologizes-687234

    Seems a lot of people on both sides are making unverified allegations!
    What unverified allegation has my side made?

    OK, I'll give you that. But why are you REFUSING to believe a cash tip was left? Why are you REFUSING that? I'm sorry, it's not you INDIVIDUALLY, but, you get my point.
  • Rosytakesoff
    Rosytakesoff Posts: 321
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    Why exactly does the pastor deserve to maintain privacy? Its a private establishment, not the US government. If you're an idiot, let's trumpet that to the world. Maybe a bit of ridicule will make people think twice about being a moron.

    Yes.
    ETA: When I worked at a very large chain restaurant, the religious crowd were notoriously bad tippers and demanding to boot. Yes, I just painted a whole group of people with a very large brush, and there may be some who are kind, gentle souls who tip well. But that was not my experience back when the dinosaurs roamed the earth.
  • BrenWOW
    BrenWOW Posts: 95
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    Wow. People suck.And so does Applebee's. I waitressed for years and have some stories!
  • Deipneus
    Deipneus Posts: 1,862 Member
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    But why are you REFUSING to believe a cash tip was left? Why are you REFUSING that? I'm sorry, it's not you INDIVIDUALLY, but, you get my point.
    Because she showed by her lack of character that she is not trustworthy, and she didn't say it until publicly embarrassed into lame attempts to defend herself.
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
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    Seems a lot of people on both sides are making unverified allegations!
    What unverified allegation has my side made?

    OK, I'll give you that. But why are you REFUSING to believe a cash tip was left? Why are you REFUSING that? I'm sorry, it's not you INDIVIDUALLY, but, you get my point.
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    I don't know if she left a cash tip or not. The photo wasn't posted about the tip, it was posted about the comment. The server that posted it wasn't even the one that waited on her.
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
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    Like I said, i usually tip 20-25%. Sometimes more. Almost never less. BUT, I do that of my own free will. If I was directed that I MUST, just because I have a larger party, I'd probably bite back, too!

    Do you not realize that a large party can take up a server's entire evening, depriving them of other customers and therefore tips they might have earned? Many restaurants will tell a party that if they reserve a table a tip will be automatically added to the bill. They don't like it, let them dine in their homes or do carryout.

    The SIZE of the PARTY was not my central issue. I just said that because the only add on mandatory tops for large parties, generally. My central issue is that, if I am allowed to decide tip of my own free will, I will, and I will tip generously. If it is MANDATED, I may protest. Not to the point this Pastor did, but, words may be said!

    I actually prefer it not be mandated in most cases. But when it comes to large parties, the manager should inform the party that it will be added and if they don't like it, let them take it up with the management, only because of what I said about a large party being able to wreck an entire night's income. And if service is so poor that the table feels the tip isn't warranted, let them take that up with management as well.

    Also, I'm surprised at how many in this thread dislike tipping and would prefer that servers receive a wage. Isn't a tip based system a form of capitalism that can reward excellence through higher pay for the best servers? Or it should be. And would be if some people weren't so awful. Also, it helps small businesses keep costs down, right? What's wrong with that?
  • AJL_Daddy
    AJL_Daddy Posts: 525 Member
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    But why are you REFUSING to believe a cash tip was left? Why are you REFUSING that? I'm sorry, it's not you INDIVIDUALLY, but, you get my point.
    Because she showed by her lack of character that she is not trustworthy, and she didn't say it until publicly embarrassed into lame attempts to defend herself.

    Look buddy. I'm not trying to take either side here. Like I have told you before, I'm just wasting a little time. I really don;t even care about this story. But it is a hot topic, so I'm here. You have done yor research. and I actually agree with you because you seem to be in tune with this. So good on ya.
  • Deipneus
    Deipneus Posts: 1,862 Member
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    Wow. People suck.And so does Applebee's. I waitressed for years and have some stories!
    This whole thread is an example of what I've long known: That there is a subset of Americans who resent the tipping system and think it's acceptable to take it out on the servers.

    The Applebee's defenders get all legal about it and the Applebee's critics, of which I am one, say that something can be legal and still wrong.
  • AJL_Daddy
    AJL_Daddy Posts: 525 Member
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    Also, I'm surprised at how many in this thread dislike tipping and would prefer that servers receive a wage. Isn't a tip based system a form of capitalism that can reward excellence through higher pay for the best servers? Or it should be. And would be if some people weren't so awful. Also, it helps small businesses keep costs down, right? What's wrong with that?

    And we wonder why we have a known SOCIALIST in the White House.
  • Deipneus
    Deipneus Posts: 1,862 Member
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    But why are you REFUSING to believe a cash tip was left? Why are you REFUSING that? I'm sorry, it's not you INDIVIDUALLY, but, you get my point.
    Because she showed by her lack of character that she is not trustworthy, and she didn't say it until publicly embarrassed into lame attempts to defend herself.

    Look buddy. I'm not trying to take either side here. Like I have told you before, I'm just wasting a little time. I really don;t even care about this story. But it is a hot topic, so I'm here. You have done yor research. and I actually agree with you because you seem to be in tune with this. So good on ya.
    It's after one p.m. here in South Carolina and my lunch time is over. I own the company but I have people depending on me to get stuff done so I'm out.
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
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    By the way, I don't know how it is now, but when I used to wait tables it was very common to NOT charge the large parties the auto-tip and to tell them so and to let them decide the tip. We did this knowing full well much of the time we would receive a larger than %15 tip (the auto-charge at the time).
  • AJL_Daddy
    AJL_Daddy Posts: 525 Member
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    But why are you REFUSING to believe a cash tip was left? Why are you REFUSING that? I'm sorry, it's not you INDIVIDUALLY, but, you get my point.
    Because she showed by her lack of character that she is not trustworthy, and she didn't say it until publicly embarrassed into lame attempts to defend herself.

    Look buddy. I'm not trying to take either side here. Like I have told you before, I'm just wasting a little time. I really don;t even care about this story. But it is a hot topic, so I'm here. You have done yor research. and I actually agree with you because you seem to be in tune with this. So good on ya.
    It's after one p.m. here in South Carolina and my lunch time is over. I own the company but I have people depending on me to get stuff done so I'm out.

    It'sd been real!
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
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    Also, I'm surprised at how many in this thread dislike tipping and would prefer that servers receive a wage. Isn't a tip based system a form of capitalism that can reward excellence through higher pay for the best servers? Or it should be. And would be if some people weren't so awful. Also, it helps small businesses keep costs down, right? What's wrong with that?

    And we wonder why we have a known SOCIALIST in the White House.

    As a real socialist, I assure you, Obama is not one.
  • AJL_Daddy
    AJL_Daddy Posts: 525 Member
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    Also, I'm surprised at how many in this thread dislike tipping and would prefer that servers receive a wage. Isn't a tip based system a form of capitalism that can reward excellence through higher pay for the best servers? Or it should be. And would be if some people weren't so awful. Also, it helps small businesses keep costs down, right? What's wrong with that?

    And we wonder why we have a known SOCIALIST in the White House.

    As a real socialist, I assure you, Obama is not one.

    Then I ask you, if you are a "real socialist," why do you advocate democracy?
  • NewCaddy
    NewCaddy Posts: 845 Member
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    First I'll say I've been a waitress and its hard work and they deserve good tips....but only if they give good service. I've been part of a large group that gets the mandatory 18% and some (I said some, not all) wait staff doesn't do a good job with large groups. They know they are getting 18% so why work at it? I've also had the opposite and tip appropriately. Now if the service didn't deserve the 18%, then the appropriate thing would have been to talk with a manager.

    I don't agree with the $0 tip. I kinda agree with the statement. I do agree with the firing -- privacy is such a big thing now a days. its amazing what people can do with a signature.
  • ngressman
    ngressman Posts: 229 Member
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    Firing warranted or not? (hand motion) discuss among yourselves......

    I believe the customer should have paid the tip, but I don't think the waitress should have posted the receipt, or if she wanted to let everyone know she had a bad day- erase Applebees and the customer's name. She violated the customer's privacy. It embarassed and/or humiliated a customer and that's a big no.
  • lizzybethclaire
    lizzybethclaire Posts: 849 Member
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    Christians are cheap when it comes to tipping and anything else they don't think they should have to pay for. I am NOT SAYING ALL CHRISTIANS are cheap, but a majority of them are.
    Stereotyping. She is also African-American. Are you going to blame African-Americans?

    Being a cheap christian crosses all races, genders, etc.. I'm entitled to my opinion just like you are entitled to not like my opinion.

    Plus, I did say that not all christians are cheap. Just that the majority that I have dealt with are. I will fix that now.
  • BondBomb
    BondBomb Posts: 1,781 Member
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    Yeah who actually believes she left a $6 cash tip.
    That sounds legit.
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
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    Also, I'm surprised at how many in this thread dislike tipping and would prefer that servers receive a wage. Isn't a tip based system a form of capitalism that can reward excellence through higher pay for the best servers? Or it should be. And would be if some people weren't so awful. Also, it helps small businesses keep costs down, right? What's wrong with that?

    And we wonder why we have a known SOCIALIST in the White House.

    As a real socialist, I assure you, Obama is not one.

    Then I ask you, if you are a "real socialist," why do you advocate democracy?

    Some define socialism as the same as communism but that isn't my definition. I believe in capitalism for non-essentials and socialism or strict pricing controls for the essentials of life like food, energy, and medicine. With some wiggle room for small businesses in all of those but without the huge corporate profits.

    Also, I'm human rights oriented, so I'm completely against allowing sweatshop goods into America. If goods aren't to be made here (providing much needed, decent paying jobs) then at very least let them be made in countries where workers aren't slaughtered for attempting to bargain.

    That is my definition of socialism.

    Edit: And in defense of real democracy, I advocate the end of private funding for political campaigns.
  • ngressman
    ngressman Posts: 229 Member
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    First I'll say I've been a waitress and its hard work and they deserve good tips....but only if they give good service. I've been part of a large group that gets the mandatory 18% and some (I said some, not all) wait staff doesn't do a good job with large groups. They know they are getting 18% so why work at it? I've also had the opposite and tip appropriately. Now if the service didn't deserve the 18%, then the appropriate thing would have been to talk with a manager.

    I don't agree with the $0 tip. I kinda agree with the statement. I do agree with the firing -- privacy is such a big thing now a days. its amazing what people can do with a signature.

    Agree :smile:

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