To eat breakfast or not to eat breakfast

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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    ahhh the old skip breakfast thread...where "starvation mode", and "you must eat in the morning to start metabolism" will be debated in earnest LOL ....I can already see the arguments and counter arguments that will be made...

    I have been skipping breakfast for about four months now as part of 18/8 lean gains protocol, and have gone from 16% to 13% body fat...

    if you want to skip breakfast skip it..you won't go into starvation mode or mess with your metabolism or any of that crap...if you want to teat breakfast it it...again it wont kick start your metabolism, but if your hungry eat, if you are not hungry eat...just make sure you work out and eat in calorie deficit...

    Here is an interesting one to ponder...about 85% of americans eat breakfast but 30% of those americans who eat breakfast are obese hmmmmm.....

    oops that is if you are not hungry don't eat...:)
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    If you are not hungry I recommend having a small bite to eat. You don't start your car in the morning if it doesn't have gas why should your body be any different?

    terrible analogy. Your body has these things called fat stores. They can be used to provide energy.

    If you aren't hungry in the morning then don't eat. Pretty simple really.
  • thingal12
    thingal12 Posts: 302 Member
    I find that when I do not eat breakfast I do not consume as much during the day. I am less likely to become ravishingly hungry in the afternoon. I know breakfast jump starts your metabolism and you should never skip a meal however can this be different for different people?

    It happens to me. When I was younger and I wouldn't eat Breakfast, I was at my thinnest (120 pounds). When I began eating breakfast, the weight came on very quickly. The myth that breakfast jump starts your metabolism is just that, a myth. As long as you consume SOMETHING to help you move around (coffee, a banana, an apple, etc.) I think you'll be fine.
  • crunchybubblez
    crunchybubblez Posts: 387 Member
    If you are not hungry I recommend having a small bite to eat. You don't start your car in the morning if it doesn't have gas why should your body be any different?

    terrible analogy. Your body has these things called fat stores. They can be used to provide energy.

    If you aren't hungry in the morning then don't eat. Pretty simple really.

    I agree. It's almost like saying, well I filled up my gas tank yesterday, but I ran a few errands and only have 1/2 a tank left.
    So if I don't top off right now it might start puttering on the way to work...

    Not to mention, you can't compare a person to a car. Lol
  • BeachGingerOnTheRocks
    BeachGingerOnTheRocks Posts: 3,927 Member
    If you are not hungry I recommend having a small bite to eat. You don't start your car in the morning if it doesn't have gas why should your body be any different?

    Yes, food is fuel and it's necessary to eat for the body to work properly, but timing is not really that important.

    If one follows your analogy, it's like saying that you have to put fuel in your car every morning just to get it to start. I fill my car up when it needs, and don't top it off just to top it off. Same with my body. I feed it when it needs to be fed.
  • twelfty
    twelfty Posts: 576 Member
    as a last point from me consider this: for 14 years i didn't eat breakfast, i've kept a bmi of around the 21 - 23 mark the entire time, since ive started eating breakfast i've put on 3.5kgs since december 28th, do the mathS
  • Everybody is different I guess. My mother won't touch breakfast for the reason that so many of you don't. She is ravenous by 10am! Personally, I used to find I functioned the same way, but these days, I LOVE my morning porridge and fruit. Especially as I walk 2 miles with the pram before 8.30am! If I don't have my breakfast, I find myself physically tired as soon as I get home and the housework doesn't get done. I think breastfeeding may have something to do with my hunger in the morning too. I also enjoy eating with the kids and partner. Gives us a chance to socialise before I kiss them all goodbye for the day.

    Jakkidoodles mother says - you are mistaken! I am NOT (always) ravenous by 10am!! I am often peckish by around 10.30, in which case it's a piece of fruit which usually sees me through to lunch. By one o'clock I AM hungry. So then, I eat.

    The consensus seems to be not everyone appreciates breakfast. I agree with the OP. Breakfast is not for me: I can't face food first thing, but if I force it down then my appetite really goes into overdrive. But my OH, on the other hand, can get straight out of bed and eat a full English. I don't know how he does it. I don't think I can eat one at any time of day, let alone first thing.

    Also, I think comparing the human to a car is misguided. Yes a car needs fuel to go, but we humans have a unique storage system which a car does not.
  • twelfty
    twelfty Posts: 576 Member
    the only time the car analogy comes in for me is before a workout, i see this as a burn around the track (using lots of fuel) and i want to be able to get all the way around so i "brim the tank" then lol
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    the only time the car analogy comes in for me is before a workout, i see this as a burn around the track (using lots of fuel) and i want to be able to get all the way around so i "brim the tank" then lol

    All the science says this is what we should do but IDK why I still seem to perform better fasted. I can't explain it but I'll just keep doing what works :smile:
  • gxm17
    gxm17 Posts: 374
    IMO, eat if you're hungry and don't eat if you're not hungry. Personally, I find that my appetite is most affected by how hard I work out. On HIIT days, I'm absolutely starving so I try to snack healthy.
  • ckopeny1
    ckopeny1 Posts: 46 Member
    I wouldnt skip breakfast, alot happens overnight with glucose levels ect that need restored for energy. Try just a small piece if fruit or a quick yoplait smootie drink. :) Good luck in your weight loss :)
  • engrdad
    engrdad Posts: 25 Member
    I, like you, am never hungry in the morning and use to always skip breakfast. However, my company always does a "safety topic" before every meeting and they gave one on eating breakfast. It basically stated that there have been several studies done to try and figure out why the frequency of heart attack, sudden death, and stroke peaks between 6am to noon with the highest incident between 8am - 10am. They found that platelets in the blood clump together (become most active) in the early morning hours. However, eating even a very light breakfast prevents the morning platelet activation that is associated with heart attacks and stroke. So now I have a 6oz fat free yogurt each morning. They do make some good ones. See some web references below:

    http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-314.html
    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Breakfast+may+reduce+morning+heart+risk.-a010688090
    http://ezinearticles.com/?Importance-of-Breakfast---Why-It-Is-the-Most-Important-Meal-of-the-Day&id=6117525
  • rjmudlax13
    rjmudlax13 Posts: 900 Member
    I am not going to claim I am an expert and I am not going to post a link to some random website that says "this is the way it REALLY is...blah, blah." I'm just going to tell you what works for me.

    I eat a fairly large breakfast which includes a lot of carbs and protein. I find it helps me feel less hungry at dinner time. Although, I usually feel very hungry at lunch. Therefore, lunch is my largest meal and most balanced (Fat / Carbs / Protein). I workout in the afternoon. So, all I really need around dinner time is a protein shake (or just some good old fashioned lean meat), a small amound of carbs like brown rice and some veges. I've lost about 12 lbs and 2% body fat in 1 month since I stared this routine. So, it works for me.

    If I don't eat breakfast OR I eat a fattening breakfast (i.e. bacon, eggs and home fries) I will be hosed for basically the whole day.

    Again, just my experience.
  • twelfty
    twelfty Posts: 576 Member
    I, like you, am never hungry in the morning and use to always skip breakfast. However, my company always does a "safety topic" before every meeting and they gave one on eating breakfast. It basically stated that there have been several studies done to try and figure out why the frequency of heart attack, sudden death, and stroke peaks between 6am to noon with the highest incident between 8am - 10am. They found that platelets in the blood clump together (become most active) in the early morning hours. However, eating even a very light breakfast prevents the morning platelet activation that is associated with heart attacks and stroke. So now I have a 6oz fat free yogurt each morning. They do make some good ones. See some web references below:

    http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-314.html
    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Breakfast+may+reduce+morning+heart+risk.-a010688090
    http://ezinearticles.com/?Importance-of-Breakfast---Why-It-Is-the-Most-Important-Meal-of-the-Day&id=6117525

    pretty sure hydration would play a big part in blood clumping together given it's the longest time a person goes without a drink
  • missliss4763
    missliss4763 Posts: 26 Member
    I love having breakfast in the morning...I am up at 530-545ish and get to work by 730am...I have my coffee and ususally am not hungry til about 845-9am...I have a desk job now, so I have oatmeal with fruit...works for me...Eat when you're hungry timing doesn't matter.
  • ckopeny1
    ckopeny1 Posts: 46 Member
    I think we are on the same schedule :) I love my coffee first, then oatmeal or grits by 8:30 and a piece of fruit around 10 :) Good luck in all you want to accomplish :)
  • bcassill2013
    bcassill2013 Posts: 72 Member
    I try not to eat after 7:00pm, at the latest, so, by the time breakfast rolls around it's been 10+ hours since I've eaten anything, so, yeah, gotta get some nourishment in me. Don't know that it's healthy to go much longer than that between meals??
  • DaniH826
    DaniH826 Posts: 1,335 Member
    I think most of the beliefs we've adopted about how, when and what to eat were jammed into our brains by somebody trying to sell us a product.

    Nourishing yourself isn't a rigid thing. It's an individual thing where as long as the basic boundaries are covered, there actually is a ton of room to move, and at the end of the day most of what people bicker about boils down to personal preference and isn't going to bring on grave consequences one way or the other. Our bodies are amazing machines that are highly adaptable, obviously, and can run just fine on pizza, soda and Cheetos for a long time until they start breaking down.

    So really, stick with a common sense balanced diet, get your butt moving regularly, and don't sweat the details overmuch. Work your diet around your life and you'll be just fine. Eat breakfast, don't eat breakfast ... whatever. Figure out what works best for you and do that.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I try not to eat after 7:00pm, at the latest, so, by the time breakfast rolls around it's been 10+ hours since I've eaten anything, so, yeah, gotta get some nourishment in me. Don't know that it's healthy to go much longer than that between meals??

    if you do an IF/lean gains approach your fasting window is 18 with an eating window of 6 (at least that is what I do)...you can also do a 16 hour fast with an 8 hour eating window...www.leangains.com

    there is also eat, stop, eat...where you fast for 24 hours and then rest of week eat normal calories (at least I think becuse I do not do this and am not familar w ith it)

    you have to starve yourself for 72 hours for it to start to become unhealthy i.e. your body starts turning to muscle for energy...
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    "I know breakfast jump starts your metabolism"
    - Not true, that's a complete myth.
    "You should never skip a meal"
    - Not true, does you no harm at all. (More likely to do you some good.)

    "I find that when I do not eat breakfast I do not consume as much during the day. I am less likely to become ravishingly hungry in the afternoon. "
    - Sounds like skipping breakfast works for you.



    /thread
  • MinnieInMaine
    MinnieInMaine Posts: 6,400 Member
    You need to listen to what your body needs - I have to eat something by 10am or I feel lightheaded and my brain goes even more gaga - but then I also need to eat regularly so thats not unusual for me. My husband can go til mid afternoon without eating anything and feel fine. Neither is wrong, neither is right - they are just what works for our needs.

    I am the exact same way and my Hubs is the same as yours. He usually doesn't eat until noon most days, especially if he's busy doing something and forgets to eat.

    And I'm the exact opposite as the OP. For me, it's vital to eat breakfast because if I don't, as soon as I start eating I become ravenous and end up eating far more than I should. Today is a prime example. I woke up starving - like my stomach was grumbling and everything. I ate a protein bar around 7am but that barely touched it so I ate some eggs and a muffin when I got to work and felt ok. It's still catching up to me though...I've eaten my wrap, a yogurt and a square of dark chocoalte and had to go heat up some edamame because I was still hungry. Thankfully I got a good burn in the gym so I can have an extra snack later if need be.

    Point is, do what works for you, there are no hard and fast rules...
  • I find that when I do not eat breakfast I do not consume as much during the day. I am less likely to become ravishingly hungry in the afternoon. I know breakfast jump starts your metabolism and you should never skip a meal however can this be different for different people?
    The idea that breakfast jump starts your metabolism is yet another diet myth.
    http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html
    http://yourdoctorsorders.com/2011/10/breakfast-myths/
    I am just not hungry in the mornings. It's the idea of dieting that at the very least you don't eat when you are not hungry. So I quite often don't eat breakfast.
    That's taking the traditional definition of breakfast. In my own personal terms, I do eat breakfast because I do break the fast -- sometime during the day, sometimes at 10, sometimes at 12. Usually with something healthy.
    Not eating breakfast makes me less hungry in the morning and helps with weight loss because the overall calories I then eat during the day are lower, not higher. In no way does it make me crave food more later or binge more later.
    So, find out how your body works, don't listen to popular myths.

    ^^This :)


    I think it's important to note, though, that even if it may benefit some people's diets, it's not as healthy for brain function, alertness, and productivity. It is much easier to focus if you're fueling your brain with something, regardless of whether you're trying to lose weight or not. Once I started eating a regular breakfast, I became a much more tolerable "morning person" than I once was. I just generally feel more "awake" with a cup of tea and some toast at the very least.

    No, simply not for me. My job requires a high level of concentration and I am not in any way less alert or less productive or less able to concentrate when I don't eat breakfast than when I do. In fact, when I have lunch at 12, It can happen that I get sleepy at 2, which doesn't happen if I skip lunch.

    I absolutely respect your experience, but mine is different.

    I'm also someone for whom endurance training comes natural, I ran half marathons before my doctors forbade me and can perfectly well run for 30 minutes without breakfast. And I love mornings when I manage to drag myself out of bed early. I tend to think maybe both tendencies are linked.
  • I always eat something for breakfast, either oatmeal with blueberries and strawberries. or i have a smoothie in the morning. the smoothie consist of spinach, blueberries, banana, blackberries, a little bit of orange, maybe some pineapple and flax seeds. It always gives me lots of energy
  • DeanR321
    DeanR321 Posts: 57 Member
    You should always eat breakfast even if its a small breakfast like porridge or weetabix as if you miss breakfast your body is starved and when the next time you eat your body will store most of it as fat as it will be in hunger mode and thinks its not going to get any more you need a consistant flow of good foods going down you throug the day 4 - 5 small meals a day n a veriety of fruit and veg and protiens such as fish, chicken and lean meats but not all at once thougt oviously and with complex carbs

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  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    You should always eat breakfast even if its a small breakfast like porridge or weetabix as if you miss breakfast your body is starved and when the next time you eat your body will store most of it as fat as it will be in hunger mode and thinks its not going to get any more you need a consistant flow of good foods going down you throug the day 4 - 5 small meals a day n a veriety of fruit and veg and protiens such as fish, chicken and lean meats but not all at once thougt oviously and with complex carbs

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    Total nonsense and myth. it takes about 72 hours for any level of adaptive thermogenesis and for the frst 48 or so metabolism actually increases. Also, meal frequency is all personal preference and has nothing to do with any metabolic advantage for weight loss. You could take in all your food in one sitting and it would have little to no effect on weight loss. Some who practice IF do just that!
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/820577-meal-frequency-rev-up-that-furnace-lol

    If one is going to give advice, it's generally a good idea to know the facts and not just repeat myth and misinformation.
  • alanlmarshall
    alanlmarshall Posts: 587 Member
    You should always eat breakfast even if its a small breakfast like porridge or weetabix as if you miss breakfast your body is starved and when the next time you eat your body will store most of it as fat as it will be in hunger mode and thinks its not going to get any more you need a consistant flow of good foods going down you throug the day 4 - 5 small meals a day n a veriety of fruit and veg and protiens such as fish, chicken and lean meats but not all at once thougt oviously and with complex carbs

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    Total nonsense and myth. it takes about 72 hours for any level of adaptive thermogenesis and for the frst 48 or so metabolism actually increases. Also, meal frequency is all personal preference and has nothing to do with any metabolic advantage for weight loss. You could take in all your food in one sitting and it would have little to no effect on weight loss. Some who practice IF do just that!
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/820577-meal-frequency-rev-up-that-furnace-lol

    If one is going to give advice, it's generally a good idea to know the facts and not just repeat myth and misinformation.

    Agreed. People are different and goals vary, but the best evidence suggests that delaying breaking an overnight fast is more likely to help weight loss than hurt it.
  • crabbok
    crabbok Posts: 66 Member
    I eat a handful of cheerios in the morning and it absolutely jump-starts MY metabolism. I can feel my stomach grinding and churning out farts, leading up til lunch. I'm usually very hungry by lunch but I am able to control that hunger and still eat healthy throughout the day. I've been losing 2-3 pounds per week for several months now and firmly recommend eating a healthy breakfast.
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    I eat a handful of cheerios in the morning and it absolutely jump-starts MY metabolism.


    No - what it does is spike your insulin. That is a far different thing.


    The fact that it works for you is great, but it absolutely, positively does NOT jump-start your metabolism.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    I eat a handful of cheerios in the morning and it absolutely jump-starts MY metabolism.


    No - what it does is spike your insulin. That is a far different thing.


    The fact that it works for you is great, but it absolutely, positively does NOT jump-start your metabolism.

    Sounds like some here need to do a little research on the function of metabolism. lol Eating does not effect metabolism beyond TEF or the Thermic Effect of Food. You want to boost your metabolism? Go work out!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I eat a handful of cheerios in the morning and it absolutely jump-starts MY metabolism.


    No - what it does is spike your insulin. That is a far different thing.


    The fact that it works for you is great, but it absolutely, positively does NOT jump-start your metabolism.

    Sounds like some here need to do a little research on the function of metabolism. lol Eating does not effect metabolism beyond TEF or the Thermic Effect of Food. You want to boost your metabolism? Go work out!

    a handfull of cherios? You might as well say you drink a glass of water and it "jumpstarts" your metabolism...and stomach sounds have nothing to do with metabolism...