Low Carb

barkmelv

Yeah, I have no problem with Low carb (any form of such), I more have a problem with people thinking low carb is a better way to lose weight, intrinsically it's no better or worse than any other way to lose weight (healthy). I realize that certain people are force to do low carb because of medical reasons or that they have an allergy, that's cool with me, and there's another group that just prefer low carb because it forces them to stay within their calorie range easier, which is also fine in my book. All valid reasons.

What I always try to make sure people know about low carb is that it's a lifestyle change, I.E. it should be thought of as a permanent change to your eating habits, and NOT a temporary way to diet and lose weight, it's not, and can be dangerous when used that way, there are many issues that go along with a ketogenic diet, you need to be very diligent about your body, and pay very close attention to things (like hydration levels, ketone levels, kidney and liver infection rates go way up with ketogenic diets, calcium depletion and brittle bones, low glycogen reserves...etc.)

Course that all goes for ketogenic diets, just going somewhat lower than the average (55% or so) doesn't really have much in the way of drawback.

Sorry, I guess I should have kept reading instead of posting in a huff about medical issues :blushing:

SHBoss1673

Yeah, I have no problem with Low carb (any form of such), I more have a problem with people thinking low carb is a better way to lose weight, intrinsically it's no better or worse than any other way to lose weight (healthy). I realize that certain people are force to do low carb because of medical reasons or that they have an allergy, that's cool with me, and there's another group that just prefer low carb because it forces them to stay within their calorie range easier, which is also fine in my book. All valid reasons.

What I always try to make sure people know about low carb is that it's a lifestyle change, I.E. it should be thought of as a permanent change to your eating habits, and NOT a temporary way to diet and lose weight, it's not, and can be dangerous when used that way, there are many issues that go along with a ketogenic diet, you need to be very diligent about your body, and pay very close attention to things (like hydration levels, ketone levels, kidney and liver infection rates go way up with ketogenic diets, calcium depletion and brittle bones, low glycogen reserves...etc.)

Course that all goes for ketogenic diets, just going somewhat lower than the average (55% or so) doesn't really have much in the way of drawback.

Sorry, I guess I should have kept reading instead of posting in a huff about medical issues :blushing:

LOL, NP, it happens. As far as angry posts go, you were pretty mild. I've taken far worse.

foxyforce

I am on a program where I do not eat sugar or simple carbs. I eat whole wheat and whole grain bread, whole wheat tortillas, Lundberg organic brown rice cakes, brown rice and I eat a potato up to three times a week. I eat any vegetables and fruits I want and I make sure I get enough lean protein. I eat dried apricots and almonds for snacks (just be sure you weigh them and count the calories) I am losing weight more consistently than I have in the past so it must be working. My cravings have gone way down. I would never give up carbs completely but instead make healthier selections. Good luck to you.

i could never give up carbs either. carbocide is always commited!

foxyforce

Yeah, I guess I don't really consider it "low carb" unless ketosis is the goal and that's not going to happen with 40% carbs. I think how much a person aims for should depend upon their activities. I find that with about 40/30/30 I have plenty of energy (for the type of exercise that I do) and I feel satisfied throughout the day, plus I seem to lose weight consistently. I don't go out of my way to keep them down, but when I concentrate on veggies and lean protein, that just seems to be where the numbers fall. Lately I've been closer to 50% most days, but I'm never real exact.

Yeah, I have no problem with Low carb (any form of such), I more have a problem with people thinking low carb is a better way to lose weight, intrinsically it's no better or worse than any other way to lose weight (healthy). I realize that certain people are force to do low carb because of medical reasons or that they have an allergy, that's cool with me, and there's another group that just prefer low carb because it forces them to stay within their calorie range easier, which is also fine in my book. All valid reasons.

What I always try to make sure people know about low carb is that it's a lifestyle change, I.E. it should be thought of as a permanent change to your eating habits, and NOT a temporary way to diet and lose weight, it's not, and can be dangerous when used that way, there are many issues that go along with a ketogenic diet, you need to be very diligent about your body, and pay very close attention to things (like hydration levels, ketone levels, kidney and liver infection rates go way up with ketogenic diets, calcium depletion and brittle bones, low glycogen reserves...etc.)

Course that all goes for ketogenic diets, just going somewhat lower than the average (55% or so) doesn't really have much in the way of drawback.

i know this is just a GENERAL statement. but since i was the thread starter, I shall say, that eating high carbs does have an effect on your midsection, and all my weight is carried around my belly, so in a way it is good for weight loss

foxyforce

I would not worry about the carbs in fruit. Fruit is good for you. I think everyone gets hung up on the low carb thing, and truthfully, it isn't healthy. Unless you have a reason (i.e. diabetic) you shouldn't stress over carbs. That being said it is smart to balance your snacks...so if you were to eat a peach for instance, which is all carb, I would also have 1/4 cup cottage cheese with it. Balance is the key.

does anyone here acctually know the rate of diabetes? to be honest, i think we all eat way too many carbs. i know i do, yesterday i had 3 pieces of white bread, 2 pieces of pizza, and three twisty bread pieces...low carb is good for carboholics, trust me, no one ever died from cutting back their carbs

Barneystinson

Simple way to find out if a high carb/sugar meal is setting you up for problems - find your postprandial (2hrs after eating) and fasting blood glucose levels AND have a chat with your doctor if you think there are concerns.

If your postprandial is regularly spiking above 140 mg/dl or higher after a higher-carb meal (1-2 hours post), you may want to go for a lower carbohydrate option, especially if your fasting blood sugar is also high (more than 100 mg/dl).

So the trouble with eating a consistent amount of high carb or high sugar food (esp. processed or refined) is that it may keep your blood glucose at an elevated level...which over time causes problems.

Most can eat carbohydrate without issues, but those that regularly have issues may want to consider a lower carb diet to better manage blood glucose, again, in conjunction with advice from a doctor.

SHBoss1673

I would not worry about the carbs in fruit. Fruit is good for you. I think everyone gets hung up on the low carb thing, and truthfully, it isn't healthy. Unless you have a reason (i.e. diabetic) you shouldn't stress over carbs. That being said it is smart to balance your snacks...so if you were to eat a peach for instance, which is all carb, I would also have 1/4 cup cottage cheese with it. Balance is the key.

does anyone here acctually know the rate of diabetes? to be honest, i think we all eat way too many carbs. i know i do, yesterday i had 3 pieces of white bread, 2 pieces of pizza, and three twisty bread pieces...low carb is good for carboholics, trust me, no one ever died from cutting back their carbs

Ah haaaaa <--- (frivolousness)

but what about Diabetic Ketoacidosis. Undiagnosed type 2 diabetics die once in a while (about 5% of newly diagnosed diabetics) from this, which is basically cutting carbs.