What to do after my 90 day DVD based program ends?

JAT74

I the Jillian workouts and have a few of her DVDs although I haven't done all of them but as I want to see results quickly I think I have to put it up a level and therefore think that a P90X/Insanity hybrid is the way forward. I don't think with that I'll end up doing too much damage to my knees because it's not only pure Insanity and P90X will hopefully allow me to use heavy enough weights to see a better fat loss result without losing too much muscle.

I've been given a 90 or 100 day program combining these two workouts but does anyone have a 60 day hybrid?

KarenJanine

Depending on your goals I would recommend Cathe Friedrich's 90 day programs, of which she now has two:

STS (shock training system) - which is purely a strength workout program

XTrain - which incorpoates both strength work and cardio

I love her workouts, she always pushes you really hard and the workouts are personalised to pick the correct weights based on your current strength to maximise strength gains (calculated by 1RM testing prior to starting the programs).

Dawid83

And nobody cares enough about you to even suggest Rushfit :bigsmile:

After I completed JM's Body Revolution (man I was sick of her after 12 weeks), I started GSP Rushfit and am now completing my 8th week (final week) of the intermediate training schedule, after this I'm going onto the advanced schedule.

All you need is 2 dumbbells, your own body and +/-45mins. a day. You will be begging for mercy :sad:

contingencyplan

Have you thought about joining an actual gym? This will allow you to perform higher intensity weightlifting programs in safety. And I can promise you that if you follow a program that guides you through a workout sequence that mandates gym equipment (NROLFW, Starting Strength, Stronglifts, Wendler 5/3/1, Madcow, etc) you will see results unlike anything you would see following a DVD program. Also, think of more outside-the-box workout options such as sandbags, suspension trainers, kettlebells, etc...

If you Absolutely NEED a DVD program then +1 for Rushfit.

Whipppets

I do pump at the gym and know its available on dvd.. They send you the weight bars and 8dvds.. I think that is
perfect for you.. I burn about 400 calories and after every class I feel the burn in all of my muscles.


http://www.intensefitnessworkouts.com/les-mills-pump-deluxe-upgrade.html?utm_source=googleprod&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=default&gdftrk=gdfV24206_a_7c1467_a_7c7094_a_7cMDLMPDVD2108

bufger

You really need to look at 5x5 stronglifts and a good diet. Abs are made in the kitchen

You can do high intensity cardio if you wish. There isnt any point in doing a long drawn out run if you're not training for endurance. Personally for Cardio i do a bike ride or P90x.

JAT74

Firstly I've heard a lot about 5x5 stronglifts thought don't really know what it is. I can't join an 'actual' gym as where I live there is only one within 30 minutes drive and it's too pricey plus it's not a lot bigger than my own home gym! As I don't have a lot of free time I couldn't spare the time to travel to a gym anyway on top of workout time.

In my home gym I have a lot of equipment anyway like a bench, multigym machine, power plate, treadmill, Elliptical trainer, rowing machine plus dumbbells, barbells, various other attachments for cables, a mat, Kettlebells, chin up bar, abs cradles, balance ball, medicine ball etc.

I could use the gym at home more but I really enjoy the DVD workouts so if I was going to give up doing them for strength I'd need some real guidance about exactly what I should do in the gym in order to get results but if I had that I'd be happy to do weights. Also it's hard as my home gym is not very big and it's narrow so if there are two of you doing different weight training at the same time it's not really possible so I'd have to fit in my training when my boyfriend isn't doing his.

I might then consider a cardio based DVD program to do alongside weight training if I did that separately in the gym although I could also use one of the gym machines (like the treadmill which I used this morning) for cardio but I find it really boring doing that on my own, even though we have a tv set up down there.

What exacty is Rushfit? I will have to look it up. Don't you think P90X is any good? I've heard great things about it.

contingencyplan

Firstly I've heard a lot about 5x5 stronglifts thought don't really know what it is. I can't join an 'actual' gym as where I live there is only one within 30 minutes drive and it's too pricey plus it's not a lot bigger than my own home gym! As I don't have a lot of free time I couldn't spare the time to travel to a gym anyway on top of workout time.

In my home gym I have a lot of equipment anyway like a bench, multigym machine, power plate, treadmill, Elliptical trainer, rowing machine plus dumbbells, barbells, various other attachments for cables, a mat, Kettlebells, chin up bar, abs cradles, balance ball, medicine ball etc.

I could use the gym at home more but I really enjoy the DVD workouts so if I was going to give up doing them for strength I'd need some real guidance about exactly what I should do in the gym in order to get results but if I had that I'd be happy to do weights. Also it's hard as my home gym is not very big and it's narrow so if there are two of you doing different weight training at the same time it's not really possible so I'd have to fit in my training when my boyfriend isn't doing his.

I might then consider a cardio based DVD program to do alongside weight training if I did that separately in the gym although I could also use one of the gym machines (like the treadmill which I used this morning) for cardio but I find it really boring doing that on my own, even though we have a tv set up down there.

What exacty is Rushfit? I will have to look it up. Don't you think P90X is any good? I've heard great things about it.

Stronglifts is a program designed to emulate powerlifting-style training with heavy weights 3 days a week and linear progression. You make it a point to increase weights every workout. It's not available on DVD because, well, each workout is just 3 exercises. NO point in making a DVD for that lol. It'll change your body drastically though.

Rushfit is an MMA inspired DVD program featuring Georges St. Pierre. Better than anything Beachbody makes IMO.

P90X I don't like because a) it has you working out an hour and a half a day on some days, b) it focuses more on aesthetic changes than functional changes, and c) it's just plain inefficient. It gets results, but they're results that only show up in what you see in the mirror. Not in what you can DO with your fitness.

JAT74

It would be nice to be extremely fit but I mainly want to look good in the mirror!

jrompola

Rushfit is an MMA inspired DVD program featuring Georges St. Pierre. Better than anything Beachbody makes IMO.

P90X I don't like because a) it has you working out an hour and a half a day on some days, b) it focuses more on aesthetic changes than functional changes, and c) it's just plain inefficient. It gets results, but they're results that only show up in what you see in the mirror. Not in what you can DO with your fitness.

I'm curious where you heard p90x was 1.5 hours? 1 video is that long and that is Yoga. The rest are between 45-65 minutes. I think your classifying fitness and athletic ability as the same thing. If you finish P90X you can jump in to any workout video and be able to complete it with ease which is the same thing you could say with rushfit I'm sure. Beachbody has many workout videos, so if you get bored you have a lot to expand upon or you could even throw rushfit in to the mix, but I wouldn't limit anyone to 1 workout program

Both programs will get results but I wouldn't say its better than beachbody makes unless you have done both and gave both the same effort. I haven't with rushfit, so i'm not going to say anything other than as long as you're doing something its better than sitting on the sidelines.

contingencyplan

Rushfit is an MMA inspired DVD program featuring Georges St. Pierre. Better than anything Beachbody makes IMO.

P90X I don't like because a) it has you working out an hour and a half a day on some days, b) it focuses more on aesthetic changes than functional changes, and c) it's just plain inefficient. It gets results, but they're results that only show up in what you see in the mirror. Not in what you can DO with your fitness.

I'm curious where you heard p90x was 1.5 hours? 1 video is that long and that is Yoga. The rest are between 45-65 minutes. I think your classifying fitness and athletic ability as the same thing. If you finish P90X you can jump in to any workout video and be able to complete it with ease which is the same thing you could say with rushfit I'm sure. Beachbody has many workout videos, so if you get bored you have a lot to expand upon or you could even throw rushfit in to the mix, but I wouldn't limit anyone to 1 workout program

Both programs will get results but I wouldn't say its better than beachbody makes unless you have done both and gave both the same effort. I haven't with rushfit, so i'm not going to say anything other than as long as you're doing something its better than sitting on the sidelines.

3 days a week you are supposed to supplement the regular lifting workout (which is roughly an hour most days) with Ab Ripper X, another 15 minutes. Yoga X is 92 minutes. I'd say that's too much time. The fact that they even have you supplementing the base workout with an ab workout is BS in my opinion because if the base workout were structured properly (a stronger basis on compound movements vs. isolation movements) there would be no need to supplement it with additional work that targets the abs.

Regarding the other points you addresses, I have completed a round of P90X and a round of Rushfit in the past. I have also completed a round of Power 90. I would consider my experience with P90X to be a failure because yes, I do expect to see gains in overall athletic capability that are on par with the changes my body has gone through. The fact that P90X left me looking more like an athlete but not necessarily PERFORMING like one shows me that the program is overall poorly structured and inefficient. Why did a program that only had me exercising 4-5 days a week for no more than 45 minutes a day show me better progress in functional athletic performance than one that had me going in excess of an hour for 6 days a week? The fact is that P90X is what I refer to as a "vanity" program. Most of what Beachbody produces are. They cater to the (rather large) target market of people whose goals are centered only around looks and who cannot be bothered to actually take the time to learn a little bit about the science behind what it is they are doing. And to be perfectly frank, I don't feel these people need to be catered to. Anything worth doing is worth learning about before you do it. Don't care to learn? Move on.

The simple fact is that yes, you CAN get comparable results with other programs that DON'T have you working out as often or as long. You CAN get results from those programs that also show functional athletic performance improvements on par with your body changes. But you have to be at least a little bit willing to go out of your way and study up on things to discover them, because they aren't found on infomercials and they aren't pushed on you by people who seek you out on public forums to make commission off of selling Beachbody products to you. And let me tell you, nothing makes the company as a whole look like more of a joke than when you know more than the "coach" who is supposed to be advising you but is only looking to make a buck off of you.

OP, Please do yourself a favor and never ever reply to anyone who tells you to contact them privately regarding Beachbody products. They ARE looking to make a buck off of you. Do not believe otherwise. Everyone who sends you a link to a Teambeachbody page saying to order here is making money off your order, and will be making money off of future orders you place from the company.

And please bear in mind, if you really do care about your health, and want to make your lifestyle one of fitness, seek to transition away from DVD based workouts. They'll only get you so far. And spending the rest of your life consulting a prefabricated schedule telling you what DVD to pop in and when is no way to live like this. Find an open field, get an active dog who you can play frisbee with, take up a sport, all of these things are more of a "lifestyle" than "KEEP PUSHING PLAY!" That is not a lifestyle. It is merely an attempt by the company and the sales rep to keep squeezing money out of you.

jrompola

Thanks for the explanation. I just like hearing different viewpoints. I guess I warm-up and cool down a lot quicker than 15 minutes they take to warm up and cool down, so I'd say I finish the lifting routines in 42 minutes and I do the ab ripper workout, so I'm done in under an hour most days.

I didn't know an at home workout DVD would "make" you athletic. Again we are basing this off what you think athletic is. I don't view working out as being athletic. I view working out as physical fitness which gets you in shape to do athletic things. I play baseball, softball, tennis, and golf and dropping weight and adding muscle help me perform those athletic sports better.

Could I go to the gym and get the same results...sure I could, but I dont want to spend a monthly fee when I know I can workout at home and get the same results regardless what you say.

Could a person do rushfit and get similar results as beachbody programs I'm sure they could.

Is beachbody "coaching" a shady practice. Sometimes it can sometimes its not. Some people need the motivation and for them awesome and others do not. Again I have never coached anyone, so I can't say too much about it. I suppose you tried to be a coach, but maybe it didn't work out which is how you know so much.

I don't see how you can say having a schedule is no way to live. Most people need structure and a plan or they'll fall off the wagon and end up where they started. Even people who go to the gym and do traditional lifting have a plan. They do not just show up and say hmmm today lets do chest & tris bc yesterday I did chest so whatever no schedule is needed. Obviously I know any companies goal is to make money and the fitness industry makes a ton of it.

For people who do not know what to do these programs provide good structure which I'm sure these videos installed within you. You said you did Power 90 and then P90X, so you had to have liked something. I've thought of potentially getting rushfit as I like to have a mix of a lot of dvd's to do. Yes I used to go to a regular gym and workout and I'm extremely athletic, but it does not compare to the p90x routines

DavPul

Since you aren't joining a gym and don't have much equipment, the scope of what we can recommend is pretty narrow. DVDs can be fun, but after a while they become repetitive and limiting.

Consider purchasing a sandbag and doing workout routines like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO7oRkSGINI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Only one piece of equipment to buy, you can easily increase the load, you don't need more space than you're already using, and you can customize the workouts once you're comfortable with the concepts

contingencyplan

Thanks for the explanation. I just like hearing different viewpoints. I guess I warm-up and cool down a lot quicker than 15 minutes they take to warm up and cool down, so I'd say I finish the lifting routines in 42 minutes and I do the ab ripper workout, so I'm done in under an hour most days.

I didn't know an at home workout DVD would "make" you athletic. Again we are basing this off what you think athletic is. I don't view working out as being athletic. I view working out as physical fitness which gets you in shape to do athletic things. I play baseball, softball, tennis, and golf and dropping weight and adding muscle help me perform those athletic sports better.

Could I go to the gym and get the same results...sure I could, but I dont want to spend a monthly fee when I know I can workout at home and get the same results regardless what you say.

Could a person do rushfit and get similar results as beachbody programs I'm sure they could.

Is beachbody "coaching" a shady practice. Sometimes it can sometimes its not. Some people need the motivation and for them awesome and others do not. Again I have never coached anyone, so I can't say too much about it. I suppose you tried to be a coach, but maybe it didn't work out which is how you know so much.

I don't see how you can say having a schedule is no way to live. Most people need structure and a plan or they'll fall off the wagon and end up where they started. Even people who go to the gym and do traditional lifting have a plan. They do not just show up and say hmmm today lets do chest & tris bc yesterday I did chest so whatever no schedule is needed. Obviously I know any companies goal is to make money and the fitness industry makes a ton of it.

For people who do not know what to do these programs provide good structure which I'm sure these videos installed within you. You said you did Power 90 and then P90X, so you had to have liked something. I've thought of potentially getting rushfit as I like to have a mix of a lot of dvd's to do. Yes I used to go to a regular gym and workout and I'm extremely athletic, but it does not compare to the p90x routines

Regarding the coach, no, I did not try to become one. I used to be a regular on the teambeachbody site, however, back when I was following their programs. My coaches kept trying to push shakeology on me. I went through 3 different ones. I got fed up with them when the last one swore up and down that the bands sold through the beachbody site would be an upgrade from mine when they are in fact the same ones. I just bought them direct from the manufacturer rather than buying through beachbody.

Yes, you can see athletic gains training out of the house. It just takes outside of the box training methods. Google suspension trainer. I also train with sandbags now. And regarding being able to see the same results out of the house as with a gym, well it depends on your goals. The fact is you can not do AS much with limited equipment. The more weight you have access to, the more progress you can make, provided your goals are those that can only be accomplished through progression based training. And beyond a certain weight, you do need access to apparatus' such as squat racks to get the weight in place to safely perform the exercises in question.

And DavPul: Those sandbags are killer. Good call on recommending them.

Yes, OP, those sandbags are amazing home training tools.

JAT74

I don't have sandbags or room for them but I do have a lot of other equipment in my home gym which is quite well equipped. I have a powerblock set though not sure about the maximum weight.

DavPul

I don't have sandbags or room for them but I do have a lot of other equipment in my home gym which is quite well equipped. I have a powerblock set though not sure about the maximum weight.

You only have to buy (or make, check YouTube) one sandbag. It's the size of a small duffel bag. Surely your home has room for another gym bag sized item

Edited to add: you don't have to do it, but from your thread the other day where you started a goal of losing 5-10% bf in the next few months, I thought you might want to kick things up to the next level. One thing you will want to keep in mind is that none of the people in those dvds for their body by doing fitness dvds.

JAT74

but why do I need it, I've got weights coming out of my ears!

Mr_Excitement

I enjoy doing DVDs as well. I think it's the structure that I like, personally. The only thing I *don't* like about them is they don't grow with you, and that's an important element of a good weights routine. Still, having said that, I've been doing p90x... more or less... for about 10 months.

After making my first pass through it, I began replacing their workouts with harder workouts from other series that fit the same niche. HIIT replaced Kenpo, a more strenuous yoga routine replaced the stock one, etc. And I replaced all of their weights days with an intermediate routine from Scooby's site.

http://scoobysworkshop.com/advanced-intermediate-workout-plan/

So basically I still do DVDs on cardio days, and still have that structure and simplicity you get with a preplanned DVD series, but there's more room for customizing my weights workouts.

contingencyplan

but why do I need it, I've got weights coming out of my ears!

*need?* Well, you don't really NEED anything other than your bodyweight and a pullup bar. But because you insist that you need to work out to a DVD in order to keep motivated as you can't be bothered to educate yourself on how to put routines together, additional measures are required. Losing 10% bodyfat in only 3 months is a VERY difficult goal that, depending on genetics, may not even be possible. But if you want to be able to ramp things up to the highest intensity possible while still keeping things SAFE as well as seeing functional fitness gains (by functional I mean becoming a better athlete from your training), you're going to have to resort to some outside-the-box measures. By outside-the-box, I mean things they don't currently make DVD training programs for.

The fact is you're pigeonholing yourself into only a select few options that aren't all that efficient by relegating yourself to commercially mass marketed DVD programs. Reaching your goals may require stepping outside of your comfort zone here.

jrompola

Regarding the coach, no, I did not try to become one. I used to be a regular on the teambeachbody site, however, back when I was following their programs. My coaches kept trying to push shakeology on me. I went through 3 different ones. I got fed up with them when the last one swore up and down that the bands sold through the beachbody site would be an upgrade from mine when they are in fact the same ones. I just bought them direct from the manufacturer rather than buying through beachbody.

Yes, you can see athletic gains training out of the house. It just takes outside of the box training methods. Google suspension trainer. I also train with sandbags now. And regarding being able to see the same results out of the house as with a gym, well it depends on your goals. The fact is you can not do AS much with limited equipment. The more weight you have access to, the more progress you can make, provided your goals are those that can only be accomplished through progression based training. And beyond a certain weight, you do need access to apparatus' such as squat racks to get the weight in place to safely perform the exercises in question.

Thanks for the reply.

I think any at home workout DVD is a good base for figuring out what type of exercise you enjoy. Personally I can't stand Kenpo, so I don't do that one. Most of the time I just play tennis or go for a run on that day. I don't like the month 1 Insanity workouts because I think they're too short and easy, so I dont do them.

Could I go to the gym and get the same type of workouts. I know I could, but then I'd be paying money for something I can do at home for free.

I don't make any money playing sports though I do win quite a few tenniswarehouse giftcards from winning my 4.5 league, so I don't need to get that much better(I'm pretty good to begin with . Maybe you make a living being an athlete and need to constantly improve your athletic performance and if so thats awesome. Wish I could convince Lamarr Woodley(Steelers football player) to workout..he's lazy!!

I haven't bought any beachbody products to go along with the dvds..found a pull up bar for $19 and used bowflex dumbbells for $125. I don't like bands though you can get a good workout with them and they're good for travel.

I used to lift all the time in a gym and I was focused on bench, squat, clean and I could put up quite a bit of weight. Now my goals are to just be in shape and look good. I could care less if I bench over 300lbs anymore.

contingencyplan

Regarding the coach, no, I did not try to become one. I used to be a regular on the teambeachbody site, however, back when I was following their programs. My coaches kept trying to push shakeology on me. I went through 3 different ones. I got fed up with them when the last one swore up and down that the bands sold through the beachbody site would be an upgrade from mine when they are in fact the same ones. I just bought them direct from the manufacturer rather than buying through beachbody.

Yes, you can see athletic gains training out of the house. It just takes outside of the box training methods. Google suspension trainer. I also train with sandbags now. And regarding being able to see the same results out of the house as with a gym, well it depends on your goals. The fact is you can not do AS much with limited equipment. The more weight you have access to, the more progress you can make, provided your goals are those that can only be accomplished through progression based training. And beyond a certain weight, you do need access to apparatus' such as squat racks to get the weight in place to safely perform the exercises in question.

Thanks for the reply.

I think any at home workout DVD is a good base for figuring out what type of exercise you enjoy. Personally I can't stand Kenpo, so I don't do that one. Most of the time I just play tennis or go for a run on that day. I don't like the month 1 Insanity workouts because I think they're too short and easy, so I dont do them.

Could I go to the gym and get the same type of workouts. I know I could, but then I'd be paying money for something I can do at home for free.

I don't make any money playing sports though I do win quite a few tenniswarehouse giftcards from winning my 4.5 league, so I don't need to get that much better(I'm pretty good to begin with . Maybe you make a living being an athlete and need to constantly improve your athletic performance and if so thats awesome. Wish I could convince Lamarr Woodley(Steelers football player) to workout..he's lazy!!

I haven't bought any beachbody products to go along with the dvds..found a pull up bar for $19 and used bowflex dumbbells for $125. I don't like bands though you can get a good workout with them and they're good for travel.

I used to lift all the time in a gym and I was focused on bench, squat, clean and I could put up quite a bit of weight. Now my goals are to just be in shape and look good. I could care less if I bench over 300lbs anymore.

My goals mainly involve working to overcome issues pertaining to a neurological disorder that affects coordination, balance, and basic motor control. I used to be obese but once I got to a point where I was satisfied with my weight (even though I still could stand to lose some) I decided to focus more on performance-oriented training as workouts aimed at simply improving your body image don't help with my main problem. Having a six pack or looking good with your shirt off doesn't matter to me as much as things like being able to go up and down a flight of stairs without having to hold onto the railing. That is why I stress athletic performance so much. Because what builds all around athletic performance in normal people helps me in overcoming my issues. And I simply can not comprehend the mindset of someone who is so concerned with looks that they would rather focus on that than the way their body performs. It just looks to me like vanity and narcissism.

Forgive me for saying so but when you're coming from my perspective, it is very hard to look at someone who doesn't struggle with these issues, and takes it for granted, and would rather focus on other areas than working to make the most of it with anything other than disdain. I admit that is an area where I struggle. But the fact that the OP has the potential to do so much more and would rather focus on looking good in a bikini just seems--wrong.

jrompola

Gotcha...well congrats to you!!

I don't know if I'd be able to do overcome those types of odds.

Its just my opinion, but these dvd's help me perform better and look better....doesn't hurt to look better too

I think its pretty safe to say a person who has a muscular 6 pack and looks good is probably putting in some hard work regardless of what exercise they choose to do.

I'm with you on not understand people, but I used to be one of those people who would eat anything and not care about what I was putting in to my body or not working out for a few years and I fell off track.