just heard "Diary as part of a diet is no good"

ChloeRoseLejeune

Um seriously?

How would I drink my daily latte without dairy... :laugh:

spirit80

Got to have cheese with my wine!

raven56706

i thought the same thing... for me... i lived off of string cheese and chobani yogurt...

i havent tried the plain yogurt with all the natural additives but will try soon.... im trying to up my protein intake but its difficult without including dairy.... when i make my protein shakes, i include skim plus milk because it comes with 10g of protein already... i know it comes with calories but water alone wont help...

dorianaldyn

I've been doing a lot of research lately and am going to transition myself to a plant-based diet (basically vegan), primarily for health reasons and secondarily for ethical reasons. I actually think there is a huge benefit to long term health if you cut out animal proteins. Having said that, what you eat is a very personal thing and I think people need to come to a happy place with food regardless of what they're eating.

As for weight loss, you can eat any type of food and lose weight. You just can't eat large quantities of any type of food!

laurie41565

If you read all the current buzz about calories in/calories out, new health models, and new food assumptions, there is plenty fo "food for thought", so to say ( ) about the how, when, and why to track calories. There is a lot of the science that is old and is being researched and updated to reflect current thoughts that it is more important about the quality of calories vs. the quanitty.

That said, I think tracking calories is STILL the best visual representation of how your diet is effecting your weight and health. Fact is, NO ONE is in great shape and helath from over eating.

As for those folks who suggest milk and nuts should be cut, or that bananas are bad, or that ___________ is the worst thing for helathy eating....bah humbug. I eat what my body likes and wants.

Cheers all.

Agree.....and I like the bah humbug!!

ShellyBell999

JenniBaby85

I know someone who says that "milk is for baby cows". In spite of the fact that as long as there have been cows and people coexisting, people have drunk cows milk :huh: . I happen to enjoy my dairy products and am in better health now than I have been in AGES. Unless you are lactose intolerant or allergic to dairy I believe it's a valuable part of a persons diet.

ChristyRunStarr

I was sitting here wondering how tracking food could be bad for a diet. Then I realized that you meant "dairy" not diary, lol. Anyway, I don't believe in cutting anything unless it has an adverse effect on your body. If you get along with dairy, don't worry about your friend.

Same here...as for giving something up completely-nope, it's not gonna happen. If I want it, I'm fitting it in my day. That being said-I have to be careful how much milk, cheese yogurt etc. I have cause I technically shouldn't be having any of it

jennfranklin

Got to have cheese with my wine!

THIS EXACTLY! :drinker:

MrDelts

Depends on the goal. If he is trying to get really cut and tight, then yes, dairy has to go. Otherwise, dairy can be incorporated into a healthy weight loss diet.

IMYarnCraz33

Ask your friend if he thinks there is a such thing as "good fats" and see what he says?

The answer will probably clear it up.

^THIS!!^

1brokegal44

It's a load of bull. Dairy is good, it has calcium, vitamin D, and is just generally awesome. People get it into their heads that it's bad because it contains fat.

Yup. Unless you're allergic or sensitive to dairy, no reason to give it up. I'm never giving up my cheeses--even the ones with the high fat content.

daanderson77

skim milk and cottage cheese, upside protein, downside some carbs. nutrition as well. whole milk, ice cream, butter, etc. yes, that won't help. I hear that Milk products + Tea = more kidney stones, but I haven't drilled into that, rather drink water than tea anyway.

mrscapamerica

As they always say "everything in moderation". You can easily incorporate dairy into a healthy diet. Many people, such as myself, choose not to and that's okay as well.

KANGOOJUMPS

I AGREE FULLY.

KenosFeoh

My opinion? Opinions are like a-holes; everybody has one, and most of them stink.

1brokegal44

Got to have cheese with my wine!

Exactly!

K_Serz

I am really confused. Diary or dairy?

^^ That right there. Was looking for the part about the food diary and logging food. Must have missed it.

kaseysospacey

Dairy is not a natural part of the diet of a mammal past weaning age. Also dairy that you dont get from a farm raw is probably full of a lot of nasty stuff incl. pus. Of course you could try to eat only pastured (grass fed) butter. And its your choice what you eat of course. I still eat reg. Yogurt sometimes bc i like it even though it isnt optimal. I do prefer kerrygold pastured butter over standard but its like standard american dairy has some good stuff in it but its also kind of gross whats in it and how its made.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

It's a load of bull. Dairy is good, it has calcium, vitamin D, and is just generally awesome. People get it into their heads that it's bad because it contains fat.

The fortified Vitamin D they put in milk is useless. It is not absorbed properly, this is coming from a specialist that I seen at Washington University.

The only way to really get useable Vitamin D is natural sunlight.

There are also better ways to get calcium than from dairy.