859 calories shopping?
kelcro40
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Ok, I have never logged in exercise as shopping, like my normal weekly shopping trips. However, today I strapped on my Polar FT4 HRM when I got to the mall. I 'shopped' (intermittent walking and shopping for clothes for three kids, a 20 min lunch break) for 3 hours, 51 minutes and according to the monitor I burned 859 calories. I don't think I should record that amount. We are fairly quick shoppers- in and out so a good bit of that time really was spent walking and moving around, back and forth to get other sizes etc. Maybe 2/3 of the time I was for sure moving about and walking beyond what I normally would in a day.
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Well, you have to figure some of that is your standard burn (what you would burn even if just sitting) - my hourly average is 90 calories just sitting. (If yours is similar, and it may not be, it would be nearly 360 - so you may have burned around an extra 500). Have you worn your HRM for three days and averaged the three numbers to get your average TDEE?0
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no, just no...
this is not exercise..this is just daily activity..
I walk up and down the stairs at work 20 times a day ..I do not count that as exercise...0 -
no, just no...
this is not exercise..this is just daily activity..
I walk up and down the stairs at work 20 times a day ..I do not count that as exercise...
No, this is not daily activity. I do not go shopping at the mall and walk for the most part of 4 hours. I do not count weekly shopping trips to walmart etc. I was also toting bags of clothes, shoes0 -
Well, you have to figure some of that is your standard burn (what you would burn even if just sitting) - my hourly average is 90 calories just sitting. (If yours is similar, and it may not be, it would be nearly 360 - so you may have burned around an extra 500). Have you worn your HRM for three days and averaged the three numbers to get your average TDEE?
No, I haven't even owned it for 3 days lol, but that is a good idea. Thanks!0 -
I'm guessing we are at about the same place so I understand the wanting to know, but the heart rate monitor isn't really for that because it doesn't tell the difference between your normal resting rate and your extra calorie burn rate. If you really want to know what you actually burn in a day every day so you can eat accurately to your deficit, I'd go with a bodymedia fit. Then again, I just got mine and I love it - so I could be bias.0
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no, just no...
this is not exercise..this is just daily activity..
I walk up and down the stairs at work 20 times a day ..I do not count that as exercise...
This.
And heart rate monitors are designed to estimate calories for steady state cardio aerobic in nature ( between 40% of VO2 max and the lactate threshold). They are not designed for low intensity activity. It is likely over estimating your calories.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Azdak/view/the-real-facts-about-hrms-and-calories-what-you-need-to-know-before-purchasing-an-hrm-or-using-one-214720 -
i wouldn't record any of it.0
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Direclty from Polar, they say that the watch is not as accurate for calories burned if your heart rate isn't above 110 or 120. I can't remember the exact amount, but it's an amount that you would be hitting if you were at the gym, not just shopping. Were you sweating? Ask Polar.0
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no, just no...
this is not exercise..this is just daily activity..
I walk up and down the stairs at work 20 times a day ..I do not count that as exercise...
I agree, but what if you are set to "sedentary"? Would you then log it so you eat enough?0 -
no, just no...
this is not exercise..this is just daily activity..
I walk up and down the stairs at work 20 times a day ..I do not count that as exercise...
No, this is not daily activity. I do not go shopping at the mall and walk for the most part of 4 hours. I do not count weekly shopping trips to walmart etc. I was also toting bags of clothes, shoes
Ummm so a trip to the mall counts, but a trip to walmart does not? I am missing something here...?
You really should not log daily activities - shopping, work, cleaning, walking to car, etc....as "exercise" just my opinion...0 -
Well, you have to figure some of that is your standard burn (what you would burn even if just sitting) - my hourly average is 90 calories just sitting. (If yours is similar, and it may not be, it would be nearly 360 - so you may have burned around an extra 500). Have you worn your HRM for three days and averaged the three numbers to get your average TDEE?
HRMs are not accurate to figure TDEE either. There is a measurable correction between calories burned and heart rate only under specific circumstances. They cannot estimate calories accurately for lower intensity activities. See above link.0 -
no, just no...
this is not exercise..this is just daily activity..
I walk up and down the stairs at work 20 times a day ..I do not count that as exercise...
I agree, but what if you are set to "sedentary"? Would you then log it so you eat enough?
no change sedentary to light activity...0 -
If it is a "not-everyday-activity" I would log about half of the time as "walking 2mph" or similar. This way you get some exercise calories but won't be over-estimating.0
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no, just no...
this is not exercise..this is just daily activity..
I walk up and down the stairs at work 20 times a day ..I do not count that as exercise...
I agree. I am a university student and I am running around ALL day between classes, running errands, going to work all over the place. If I were to estimate, it's probably added up to a couple miles a day in running around. But I don't count it as exercise.
Hope this helps!0 -
no, just no...
this is not exercise..this is just daily activity..
I walk up and down the stairs at work 20 times a day ..I do not count that as exercise...
No, this is not daily activity. I do not go shopping at the mall and walk for the most part of 4 hours. I do not count weekly shopping trips to walmart etc. I was also toting bags of clothes, shoes
No. It's not daily activity. But I still wouldn't log it. I'd consider it a bonus.0 -
Direclty from Polar, they say that the watch is not as accurate for calories burned if your heart rate isn't above 110 or 120. I can't remember the exact amount, but it's an amount that you would be hitting if you were at the gym, not just shopping. Were you sweating? Ask Polar.
My Polar FT4 said to wear it for three 24-hour periods to see my average daily burn...why would the packaging say that if the compnay says otherwise?0 -
no, just no...
this is not exercise..this is just daily activity..
I walk up and down the stairs at work 20 times a day ..I do not count that as exercise...
This.
And heart rate monitors are designed to estimate calories for steady state cardio aerobic in nature ( between 40% of VO2 max and the lactate threshold). They are not designed for low intensity activity. It is likely over estimating your calories.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Azdak/view/the-real-facts-about-hrms-and-calories-what-you-need-to-know-before-purchasing-an-hrm-or-using-one-21472
^ This. Only use HRM for exercise that makes you sweat.0 -
no, just no...
this is not exercise..this is just daily activity..
I walk up and down the stairs at work 20 times a day ..I do not count that as exercise...
No, this is not daily activity. I do not go shopping at the mall and walk for the most part of 4 hours. I do not count weekly shopping trips to walmart etc. I was also toting bags of clothes, shoes
Ummm so a trip to the mall counts, but a trip to walmart does not? I am missing something here...?
You really should not log daily activities - shopping, work, cleaning, walking to car, etc....as "exercise" just my opinion...
No, walmart trips are my normal routine. Are you reading what I am posting? The mall trip for almost 4 hours was more than I normally do in a week.0 -
no, just no...
this is not exercise..this is just daily activity..
I walk up and down the stairs at work 20 times a day ..I do not count that as exercise...
No, this is not daily activity. I do not go shopping at the mall and walk for the most part of 4 hours. I do not count weekly shopping trips to walmart etc. I was also toting bags of clothes, shoes
Ummm so a trip to the mall counts, but a trip to walmart does not? I am missing something here...?
You really should not log daily activities - shopping, work, cleaning, walking to car, etc....as "exercise" just my opinion...
No, walmart trips are my normal routine. Are you reading what I am posting? The mall trip for almost 4 hours was more than I normally do in a week.
no, walking around the mall is not exercise sorry .it just is not..
I went to the mall last weekend and walked around for two hours..that is not exercise..that is something I did during the day aka daily activity...0 -
If it is not something part of my everyday routine, I will enter some or all of it in. If I am walking during the majority of my shopping, what is the difference between that and walking around the mall for exercise? It's something extra that I don't typically do. I haven't had any problems with weight loss because I count them - but I don't do 4 hour shopping trips every week either.0
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Personally, my calorie limits in MFP are for sedentary activity, so I tend to log things like walking around the store for an hour as 30 minute of 2mph walking. The other day I walked a mile to school, wandered around a botanical festival for 2 hours, and then walked home with my take. You bet my shiny metal behind that I logged that! It doesn't sound that much different from walking around the mall, shopping, and carrying heavy bags.
So yeah, If I were you (which I am not) then I would take the HRM number and maybe log half of that.0 -
Thanks!Direclty from Polar, they say that the watch is not as accurate for calories burned if your heart rate isn't above 110 or 120. I can't remember the exact amount, but it's an amount that you would be hitting if you were at the gym, not just shopping. Were you sweating? Ask Polar.0 -
wow! personally i do count my shopping walk, but my activity level is also set to sedentry, so being hypoglycemic my rule of thumb is if it drops my blood sugars i count it. either way you did good today and was a great way to see what you burned and didnt realize.0
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no, just no...
this is not exercise..this is just daily activity..
I walk up and down the stairs at work 20 times a day ..I do not count that as exercise...
No, this is not daily activity. I do not go shopping at the mall and walk for the most part of 4 hours. I do not count weekly shopping trips to walmart etc. I was also toting bags of clothes, shoes
Ummm so a trip to the mall counts, but a trip to walmart does not? I am missing something here...?
You really should not log daily activities - shopping, work, cleaning, walking to car, etc....as "exercise" just my opinion...
Walmart has those fancy motorized carts0 -
no, just no...
this is not exercise..this is just daily activity..
I walk up and down the stairs at work 20 times a day ..I do not count that as exercise...
No, this is not daily activity. I do not go shopping at the mall and walk for the most part of 4 hours. I do not count weekly shopping trips to walmart etc. I was also toting bags of clothes, shoes
Ummm so a trip to the mall counts, but a trip to walmart does not? I am missing something here...?
You really should not log daily activities - shopping, work, cleaning, walking to car, etc....as "exercise" just my opinion...
No, walmart trips are my normal routine. Are you reading what I am posting? The mall trip for almost 4 hours was more than I normally do in a week.
no, walking around the mall is not exercise sorry .it just is not..
I went to the mall last weekend and walked around for two hours..that is not exercise..that is something I did during the day aka daily activity...
Yes, walking is exercise. I go to the gym and bust *kitten* on the treadmill at an incline at 4 mph and I am pretty sure that is exercise. And yes, for the third time, it (an almost 4 hour shopping trip most of which I was walking albeit slower than 4 mph) is over and above what I would normally do on any day, therefor it is NOT normal daily activity. Thanks for your input though.0 -
no, just no...
this is not exercise..this is just daily activity..
I walk up and down the stairs at work 20 times a day ..I do not count that as exercise...
I agree, but what if you are set to "sedentary"? Would you then log it so you eat enough?
THis is my point, because I know that I was more active today than a normal day. I think 859 is ridiculous to count, but some of it should be counted.0 -
I personally *now* would not track that.. before when I was eating 1200 calories a day and 'sedentary' I would count working.. because I would be on my feet for 4-8 hours.. so I'd track it as like walking 2mph for a little less than half the time I worked. I wouldn't do that now though. I would say its normal daily activity.. that is just from my experience and learning from this weight loss and stuff.... Now.. If I was working truck day where I was lifting heavy box's and moving things, up and down ladders.. running around like crazy and getting REALLY tired.. I would still count that..
I personally don't count my calories burned shopping in the mall. I just started subtracting the 62 calories that my body would be using whether working out or not..0 -
I've been having hot flashes all day. Breaking a sweat and elevated heartbeat. By your logic I guess I should be logging this as exercise!0
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Walking around stores and shopping is NOT part of my daily routine. I am very sedentary. So when I do shop, I log it as exercise under "walking, slow pace, 2mph" It's not a lot of calories but it certainly is more than if I was sitting in a chair at home.
People have made some valid points about the heart rate monitor not actually being good at recording milder exercise calorie burn so to me that says not to count what the monitor claimed but definitely count something because it's not part of your routine.0 -
no, just no...
this is not exercise..this is just daily activity..
I walk up and down the stairs at work 20 times a day ..I do not count that as exercise...
I agree, but what if you are set to "sedentary"? Would you then log it so you eat enough?
no change sedentary to light activity...
That is an idea. I have been very sedentary up til January. Maybe it is time to change my acitivty level on here. I hadn't considered it because I guess I haven't had the confidence to label myself other than sedentary even though I started going to a gym last week.0
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