The Conformity of Slang?
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we have plenty of regionalisms in the USA. one of the more interesting ones is the use of soda vs. pop vs. coke in various parts of the country. there are many others (e.g., sub vs. hero vs. grinder vs. hoagie).
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I remember when I was a kid, I went to the cinema, and wanted to buy an orange drink. I went to the counter, and asked for a popcorn and a coke. I waited for the lady at the counter to ask me what flavor, instead she scooped my popcorn, and filled my cup. She handed it over, and I took a sip and spit it out on the floor. She had filled it with Coca Cola. I was incensed. She said I had asked for a Coke. I told her I wanted an orange coke, and she looked at me as if I were daft. My first memorable experience of an encounter with a different dialect.
Interesting (or not) tidbit about me. I seem to be very susceptible to picking up on local dialects, accents, etc. Every year, my family would go to Ontario when I was growing up. We would be there for 2 weeks, and I would be "speaking canadian" fluently by midway through the first week. I would go to Scotland with the Navy frequently, and would "speak Scottish" easily. When I talk with people of different socio-econominc status, or regional dialects, I can hear how I slip into them in those coversations. I still have issues with wanting to spell certain words "wrong" : grey vs. gray, colour vs. color, humour vs. humor, theatre vs theater, etc. It drives my spell checker nuts.0 -
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I remember when I was a kid, I went to the cinema, and wanted to buy an orange drink. I went to the counter, and asked for a popcorn and a coke. I waited for the lady at the counter to ask me what flavor, instead she scooped my popcorn, and filled my cup. She handed it over, and I took a sip and spit it out on the floor. She had filled it with Coca Cola. I was incensed. She said I had asked for a Coke. I told her I wanted an orange coke, and she looked at me as if I were daft. My first memorable experience of an encounter with a different dialect.
You MUST be Southern!0 -
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I'm not sure where it came from but some people around Chicago call it 'sodi' (sp). My sister is one of them and it drives me nuts. It's SODA! lolwe have plenty of regionalisms in the USA. one of the more interesting ones is the use of soda vs. pop vs. coke in various parts of the country. there are many others (e.g., sub vs. hero vs. grinder vs. hoagie).
right click the map graphic and select "view image" to see the whole thing.0 -
I'm not sure where it came from but some people around Chicago call it 'sodi' (sp). My sister is one of them and it drives me nuts. It's SODA! lol
In the south, particularly in Georgia, everything is a Coke, mainly because Coca-cola is headquartered in Atlanta. I have relatives in St Louis, and I had never before heard it called anything other than Coke before visiting them. My grandmother said 'sodi' but everyone else called it 'soda'. I've now gotten in the habit of calling it 'soda' because I got sick of waitresses asking me "Are Pepsi products okay?"0 -
Have any of you heard of the word jackapple? I guess it's a 'nicer' version of jacka$$.0
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I'm in Central Scotland.
This is something I quite often feel like saying to people when they constantly criticise me for losing weight:
"Away an bile yer heid ya numpty, ye dinnae ken whit yer talkin aboot"
I also like "gonnae no dae that". I do quite like to use "pure dead brilliant" or "ya dancer" for good things.
My accent is actually quite soft though as I have spent a fair amount of time in SE England, I will tend to use the term "mate" instead of "pal" for friends but the longer I have been back home I do notice I will accidentally use local colloquialisms, it depends who I am talking to. My husband is English and he has picked up far more slang from his place of work, I find this quite amusing.
There are so many slang words here that depend on region.
Admittedly, when I have seen some terms on these forums, I have had to take to Google to discover the meaning.
Is it terrible that I heard your Scottish accent in my mind as I read that? :laugh:0 -
I work in an international school so I see differences in language and cultures daily...
Believe me, we've had some very funny conversations with kids, but the words that stand out are
Bandaid (Plaster)
Tardy (Late)
Eraser (Rubber) - had some funny conversations with my Australian colleagues especially
Sidewalk (pavement)
There are so many....
Then there are the local dialects/sayings int he uk...
I grew up in Devon (South West England) and had things like dinner meaning midday meal and tea meaning evening meal... now I live in London and married a complete cockney.... I've learnt all the cockney rhyming slang and about every other 'saying' lol0 -
I'm not sure where it came from but some people around Chicago call it 'sodi' (sp). My sister is one of them and it drives me nuts. It's SODA! lol
In the south, particularly in Georgia, everything is a Coke, mainly because Coca-cola is headquartered in Atlanta. I have relatives in St Louis, and I had never before heard it called anything other than Coke before visiting them. My grandmother said 'sodi' but everyone else called it 'soda'. I've now gotten in the habit of calling it 'soda' because I got sick of waitresses asking me "Are Pepsi products okay?"
I live in SC and when you order a Coke it means a Coca Cola. Now one difference I know of is here in the south when you order tea you're given a sweet tea. When I lived in California and ordered tea I was given unsweetened tea.
I went to the doc recently because of some knee pain. When I told him that my knee felt "wonky" he looked at me as if I'd spoken in a different language! I think that slang sometimes simplifies or better expresses what it is that we're trying to say.0 -
From a military perspective, I just know that the Brits tended to get a chuckle when an American would come over the radio and say "roger that" meaning "I understand".0
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I remember when I was a kid, I went to the cinema, and wanted to buy an orange drink. I went to the counter, and asked for a popcorn and a coke. I waited for the lady at the counter to ask me what flavor, instead she scooped my popcorn, and filled my cup. She handed it over, and I took a sip and spit it out on the floor. She had filled it with Coca Cola. I was incensed. She said I had asked for a Coke. I told her I wanted an orange coke, and she looked at me as if I were daft. My first memorable experience of an encounter with a different dialect.
You MUST be Southern!
Actually, I grew up outside of Chicago. It's just that in my family, we always called sodas cokes. My mom was from central Illinois, and my Dad from New Hmpshire. They were both in the Navy, and married in Norfolk, VA. That may be where they picked it up. I personally call them either sodas or pops, or sodapops depending on the day.
I think I have a diverse dialect having been thrown in with so many people from all over (in the Navy myself) and living in different regions of the country.0 -
Yo, check it. In some, if not all states Ebonics be recoginized foo as a legit language and *kitten*. Fo rizzle, I ain't believe it yo and a teach be hollerin at me and made it legit!
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Because of Harry Potter, my kids will say, "Don't be thick," "Bloody hell," and "Gone mental."
"bloody hell" is considered a swearword in the UK... it's a mild one though, not in the same league as other swearwords though. It's fine when used to mean "covered in blood" but not when used like "where's the bloody remote" or "bloody hell" - I try not to say stuff like that in front of the kids.... some people will say "blooming" or "blimming" instead of "bloody" to tone their language down.
(just in case you didn't know, for future reference if you visit the UK)
And be careful about talking about your fanny pack.
oh my days no, it makes me laugh so much when American men refer to their "fanny" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:0 -
I think the point is that running around the UK saying "bloody hell" might be offensive to the residents.Because of Harry Potter, my kids will say, "Don't be thick," "Bloody hell," and "Gone mental."
"bloody hell" is considered a swearword in the UK... it's a mild one though, not in the same league as other swearwords though. It's fine when used to mean "covered in blood" but not when used like "where's the bloody remote" or "bloody hell" - I try not to say stuff like that in front of the kids.... some people will say "blooming" or "blimming" instead of "bloody" to tone their language down.
(just in case you didn't know, for future reference if you visit the UK)
Aren't "swear words" considered slang? I consider them as such. I don't care if my kids use slang. Mind you, my kids are teenagers, not little ones.0 -
From a military perspective, I just know that the Brits tended to get a chuckle when an American would come over the radio and say "roger that" meaning "I understand".
that too :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
though still not as funny as men talking about their "fanny"
like "I fell on my fanny" said by a man... well it's still quite weird said by a woman, it would take some really amazing flexibility to fall on that, but said by a man it's just :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:0 -
I know this is really common, but I lived in Georgia for two years and have been in Tallahassee for six and I have relatives all over the South and have never actually heard anyone in real life call it "Coke" in that context. It's odd that I haven't.I'm not sure where it came from but some people around Chicago call it 'sodi' (sp). My sister is one of them and it drives me nuts. It's SODA! lol
In the south, particularly in Georgia, everything is a Coke, mainly because Coca-cola is headquartered in Atlanta. I have relatives in St Louis, and I had never before heard it called anything other than Coke before visiting them. My grandmother said 'sodi' but everyone else called it 'soda'. I've now gotten in the habit of calling it 'soda' because I got sick of waitresses asking me "Are Pepsi products okay?"0 -
Imagine my confusion when a British friend walked into the room and asked to borrow a rubber.0
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I grew up in Devon (South West England) and had things like dinner meaning midday meal and tea meaning evening meal... now I live in London and married a complete cockney.... I've learnt all the cockney rhyming slang and about every other 'saying' lol
Proper job, moi lover! :drinker:0 -
burt, you cray cray
(how do you like dem apples?) slang in da hizzy! you sound like you're writing a paper, burt. but i concur with your assessments and find sociolinguistics fascinating. 0 -
burt, you cray cray (how do you like dem apples?) slang in da hizzy! you sound like you're writing a paper, burt. but i concur with your assessments and find sociolinguistics fascinating.
I totally appreciate your combining of highly sophisticated intellectual language and the vernacular, innit.0 -
burt, you cray cray (how do you like dem apples?) slang in da hizzy! you sound like you're writing a paper, burt. but i concur with your assessments and find sociolinguistics fascinating.
I totally appreciate your combining of highly sophisticated intellectual language and the vernacular, innit.
that's how i roll 0 -
I remember when I was a kid, I went to the cinema, and wanted to buy an orange drink. I went to the counter, and asked for a popcorn and a coke. I waited for the lady at the counter to ask me what flavor, instead she scooped my popcorn, and filled my cup. She handed it over, and I took a sip and spit it out on the floor. She had filled it with Coca Cola. I was incensed. She said I had asked for a Coke. I told her I wanted an orange coke, and she looked at me as if I were daft. My first memorable experience of an encounter with a different dialect.
You MUST be Southern!
No kidding! What the heck is an orange Coke?0 -
I just wanted to post to say I am enjoying reading the posts from the Scots and Brits right now... But then I'm a bit of a Anglophile...0
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I remember when I was a kid, I went to the cinema, and wanted to buy an orange drink. I went to the counter, and asked for a popcorn and a coke. I waited for the lady at the counter to ask me what flavor, instead she scooped my popcorn, and filled my cup. She handed it over, and I took a sip and spit it out on the floor. She had filled it with Coca Cola. I was incensed. She said I had asked for a Coke. I told her I wanted an orange coke, and she looked at me as if I were daft. My first memorable experience of an encounter with a different dialect.
You MUST be Southern!
No kidding! What the heck is an orange Coke?
:laugh: this reminds of a time that we were driving from Texas to visit my family up north via OKC... we stopped at a Denny's (or was it IHOP) anyway, I asked the waitress what kind of "Cokes" did they have... you know Dr. Pepper, Sprite, Pepsi, What?... she just looked at me like I was crazy and said "coke" really slow like... :indifferent: I then asked if they had a Dr. Pepper.0 -
I just wanted to post to say I am enjoying reading the posts from the Scots and Brits right now... But then I'm a bit of a Anglophile...
Scots are Brits
well maybe some of the Scots who are heavily into devolution don't want to be Brits...0 -
Because of Harry Potter, my kids will say, "Don't be thick," "Bloody hell," and "Gone mental."
"bloody hell" is considered a swearword in the UK... it's a mild one though, not in the same league as other swearwords though. It's fine when used to mean "covered in blood" but not when used like "where's the bloody remote" or "bloody hell" - I try not to say stuff like that in front of the kids.... some people will say "blooming" or "blimming" instead of "bloody" to tone their language down.
(just in case you didn't know, for future reference if you visit the UK)
Aren't "swear words" considered slang? I consider them as such. I don't care if my kids use slang. Mind you, my kids are teenagers, not little ones.
probably, it was just a "just in case you didn't know" - so they don't say it in front of people who might take offense to it. But I'd be fine with my kids saying "don't be thick" or "gone mental" in class,so long as they're not used in an insulting way (they can be in some contexts but usually are fine if you say them to friends)... but they might get a detention for saying "bloody hell" within earshot of a teacher. That depends on how strict the teacher is though.
Funny story.... one of the boys in my son's class continued to talk and laugh after the teacher had repeatedly told the boy to be quiet and even moved him to the corner of the room. My son was getting upset because he couldn't hear the teacher and blurted out, "SHUT THE F*** UP! Some of us are actually trying to learn something!" My son said the teacher gave him a look then said not to use that kind of language. But the boy didn't utter another word the rest of class.
They also know that grandma and grandpa are "old school" and get offended by certain words. And we have talked to them both about how to speak in a professional manner when at work and other situations.0 -
Yessss.... have to be careful with the cigarette/*kitten* scenario. Especially if you are asking to 'bum one'......
And of course, very amusing when an American says anything about their Fanny. In particular "Being kicked up the Fanny" (*Eyes water*)0 -
I just wanted to post to say I am enjoying reading the posts from the Scots and Brits right now... But then I'm a bit of a Anglophile...
Scots are Brits
well maybe some of the Scots who are heavily into devolution don't want to be Brits...
Hmm... I did not know Scots were considered Brits as well... I guess it makes sense since it's all one country now and not England, Scotland and Wales... But then I guess I should have said the English and the Scots then... Eh, I'm probably just making stuff up now.0
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