Alternative to Carbs
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I think it's a little extreme to simply state all vegetables are carbs.
Serious question: Can you name a vegetable that is not a carbohydrate?
AVOCADO
ok ok not a vegetable I know
also contains carbs0 -
fresh air.0
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You might want to explore the reasons why it has worked for you, and what "worked" actually means. Was it due to reducing your overall calories, or was it due to some magical force that science has not yet discovered?
I choose the magical force....0 -
I also do the no "starchy" carbs after lunch and am having great results.
Thats great
What do you tend to eat for dinner?
Just eat what you would have had with a starchy carb, but skip the starchy carb and just eat a little more of it - in other words you make up the calorie from protein & fats (and your veg has carbs in anyway)0 -
I restrict carbs for all meals to 10-20 net carbs for all meals, not just dinner.
Non-starchy vegetables, along with a protein, will always be a mainstay of your dinner choices. The trick to avoid boredom is to prepare them in different ways. Roasted vs steamed - completely different taste. Zucchini or broccoli fritters vs sauteed. Spices, flavored vinegars and oils and a sprinkle of cheese go a long way in making vegetables tasty and different.
Today I am having chicken parmesan meatloaf muffins, and creamy garlic broccoli (steamed broccoli with a T of garlic hummus)0 -
Pretty sure you lost weight when you cut bread (or potatoes or pasta) out of your evening because bread is a calorie dense food. It had nothing to do with the fact that it was a carb, it was just that it was a lot of calories.
Holy Pa-jeezus you figured it out. I think they should give you a Nobel for that. You have answered the age old question why do people lose weight on low carb or low fat diets.
I'm crowning you the MFP queen or king today.0 -
When i say carbs I mean high carb foods like potatoes, pasta, rice and bread.
It works for me so I think that all that really matters.....Its always about whats right for the indiviuals body right?
I know I need some carbs to actually lose weight so the idea of eating lower carb food (vegetables and salad) is good for me in the evening after doing some exercise.
Plus higher carb stuff make me feel all bloated and fat after about 5pm making me not want to do any exercise.
I wasn't trying to be rude in my original post and if cutting out starchy carbs at night helps you to stay within your daily calorie intake then I am all for it. I just wanted to be clear that just because you eat carbs at a certain time doesn't mean that they are going to "turn into fat."
While you may understand this there might be someone else reading who doesn't.
My first post was brief as many of us come across this same question many times a day and was not intended to be rude.0 -
You might want to explore the reasons why it has worked for you, and what "worked" actually means. Was it due to reducing your overall calories, or was it due to some magical force that science has not yet discovered?
I didnt reduce the amount of carbs I ate just when I ate them. Everybody is different. Maybe this was just works for me.0 -
OP- If you are looking for a good no-starch veggie meal, make a stew! Or kabobs! Use lots of mushrooms so you feel like the food is savory and filling. Tofu is also a good low-carb veg option.
I have a friend who does paleo and she makes the most amazing "noodles" out of zucchini. She just juliennes them and softens them by frying in a tiny bit of olive oil and water, then she dresses them with regular pasta sauce. They're amazing. I just got a julienne peeler and I can't wait to try it out for myself. ^_^I think it's a little extreme to simply state all vegetables are carbs.
Serious question: Can you name a vegetable that is not a carbohydrate?
Ok seriously. Vegetables are not carbohydrates, they HAVE carbohydrates. Like houses HAVE bricks but houses are not bricks. Anyway, I can only think of one "vegetable" that has more protein than carbohydrate and that is sprouts.0 -
OP- If you are looking for a good no-starch veggie meal, make a stew! Or kabobs! Use lots of mushrooms so you feel like the food is savory and filling. Tofu is also a good low-carb veg option.
I have a friend who does paleo and she makes the most amazing "noodles" out of zucchini. She just juliennes them and softens them by frying in a tiny bit of olive oil and water, then she dresses them with regular pasta sauce. They're amazing. I just got a julienne peeler and I can't wait to try it out for myself. ^_^I think it's a little extreme to simply state all vegetables are carbs.
Serious question: Can you name a vegetable that is not a carbohydrate?
Ok seriously. Vegetables are not carbohydrates, they HAVE carbohydrates. Like houses HAVE bricks but houses are not bricks. Anyway, I can only think of one "vegetable" that has more protein than carbohydrate and that is sprouts.
you never lived in a brick house?0 -
Hi,
I've decided to cut carbs out after 5pm. I did this before and eat the majority of my carbs for lunch and it really helped me lose weight and get fit.
Does anyone have any good ideas for what to replace that part of an evening meal with? Salad and califlower boiled is getting a tad boring?
Thanks
?? veggies are carbs...
protein and fat are your only other options, but if you meant going sans starch and grain carbs, then... you've really got an unlimited number of options. just peruse a vegetarian recipe book.0 -
you never lived in a brick house?
I've lived in a house made with bricks, but I have never lived in a brick.0 -
you never lived in a brick house?
I've lived in a house made with bricks, but I have never lived in a brick.
by this logic, no food is anything... chicken is just made of "primarily" proteins but is not - itself - a protein.
it's silly.0 -
you never lived in a brick house?
I've lived in a house made with bricks, but I have never lived in a brick.
by this logic, no food is anything... chicken is just made of "primarily" proteins but is not - itself - a protein.
it's silly.
Ok, what?
Chicken has protein. Chicken is not protein.
Proteins are large organic molecules made of chains of one or more amino acids. A chicken is not a large organic molecule, the muscular tissue of a chicken is not a large organic molecule.
I mean, yeah, using words... for what they mean... it's so silly!0 -
Eating carbs after a certain time is one of the biggest myths in the diet industry.
Eat you carbs anytime of day you feel like it.
And just to be clear broccoli is a carb and so is any other vegetable.
Protein and fat are the only alternative to carbs.
Agreed.
I choose to eat a very low carb diet with no grains, but I eat my veggie carbs any time. It's kinda funny to see people talking about replacing carbs with carbs. However, for me, carbs from vegetables are the best kind.
When carbs are reduced then other nutrients must increase. I keep my proteins at a moderate level and replace my carbs with healthy fat. (Yup, fats are healthy, especially the natural, saturated kinds!)0 -
You might want to explore the reasons why it has worked for you, and what "worked" actually means. Was it due to reducing your overall calories, or was it due to some magical force that science has not yet discovered?
I didnt reduce the amount of carbs I ate just when I ate them. Everybody is different. Maybe this was just works for me.
Sorry but unless you're not human or have a medical condition that we're unaware of you metabolize food just like the rest of us.
If you're over consuming calories you'll gain weight.
If you're under consuming them you'll lose it.
It's as simple as that.0 -
You might want to explore the reasons why it has worked for you, and what "worked" actually means. Was it due to reducing your overall calories, or was it due to some magical force that science has not yet discovered?
I didnt reduce the amount of carbs I ate just when I ate them. Everybody is different. Maybe this was just works for me.
That's not what everybody's different means. We're all fundamentally the same.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html0 -
Ok, what?
Chicken has protein. Chicken is not protein.
Proteins are large organic molecules made of chains of one or more amino acids. A chicken is not a large organic molecule, the muscular tissue of a chicken is not a large organic molecule.
I mean, yeah, using words... for what they mean... it's so silly!
i guess you just like to argue... because this one serves no purpose.
she asked for an alternative to carbs and listed a bunch of foods that (while low carb) are virtually entirely carb. not surprisingly, people pointed that out.
when your speaking in general terms of macros, what the hell else is one supposed to call a veggetible if not a carb?0 -
Ok, what?
Chicken has protein. Chicken is not protein.
Proteins are large organic molecules made of chains of one or more amino acids. A chicken is not a large organic molecule, the muscular tissue of a chicken is not a large organic molecule.
I mean, yeah, using words... for what they mean... it's so silly!
i guess you just like to argue... because this one serves no purpose.
she asked for an alternative to carbs and listed a bunch of foods that (while low carb) are virtually entirely carb. not surprisingly, people pointed that out.
when your speaking in general terms of macros, what the hell else is one supposed to call a veggetible if not a carb?
My guess is that you're not vegan and you haven't had to prove to a multitude of friends and family that yes, plants have protein in them and no, you're not going to shrivel up and die without meat.
:P
Yes, cauliflower is 78% carbohydrate. It's also 19% protein and 3% fat. It has carbs, it is not just carbs.
You might also call steak a protein, but many cuts of steak will have around 60% of their calories from fat. Categorizing foods based on generalizing "macros" is really inaccurate and misleading.0 -
So I asked a simple question as to what I could eat instead of high carbs in the evening as it helps me with losing weight and toning up.
You have told me basically that, even though I have done this before and it worked, it is not going to work and pointed our every single reason as to why I am basically not correct.
Some have been very helpful and I am thankful to you few. To others....do you really thinking this is beneficial to helping someone reach the goal they intend?? Some of the comments have been very negative.0 -
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You might want to explore the reasons why it has worked for you, and what "worked" actually means. Was it due to reducing your overall calories, or was it due to some magical force that science has not yet discovered?
I was going to post this, but now i can save my calories.. thank you.0 -
Meat and vegetables, you can also have breakfast for dinner, I do that sometimes... and if you want something breaded use carbquik or almond flour.0
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"Magical force science has not discovered yet," is a plausible explanation for this, but I would say a more accurate description would be, "something we cannot measure yet," or "individual variables unaccounted for." Individual variables like lifestyle and mental state and those two things are very important in the process of weight loss.
Is there some huge propaganda push in the diet industry to sell products based on this philosophy or something? I'm looking for a good reason to be so anti-"no carbs in the evening." If it's been proven that it doesn't make a difference when you eat the carbs, that's all the more reason to just do what you feel works for you, right?0
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