:( always hungry...

breakfast - 2 medium slices whole meal/brown with peanut butter
12.30pm Lunch - rump steak 8oz with about 3 chips and 1.5 onion rings (trying to be good whilst eating out)
3pm Snack - small boiled egg, 2-3 ounces of grilled chicken with small box salad (3pm)
6pm - starving :(

I am not sure why I am still hungry given that the food above is high in protein and of good quality. My job is desk bound so I can't even claim any manual labour... Thoughts anyone?

Coincidentally right after dinner (I get really hungry in the evenings less so between breakfast and lunch (normally between 1-2pm)) within 2 hours I get tetchy and hungry again generally - I am just perplexed as to why I feel this way 90% of the time... My meals are generally balanced from a protein and carb point of view.

Would welcome thoughts and opinions!

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  • JeneticTraining
    JeneticTraining Posts: 663 Member
    Drink more water! It definitely helps
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    Isn't 6pm when you would have your tea?
  • Confuzzled4ever
    Confuzzled4ever Posts: 2,860 Member
    I fyour hungry you're not eating enough of something..

    Add veggies and fruits..

    I find i'm not happy if I dont' get the veggie crunch in. (the cruncht veggies)

    Also.. that's not a very filling breakfast.. I mashed a banana in with steel cut oats and strawberry jam and ate it with boxty this morning (potato pancake basically) talk about full!
  • cuarrech
    cuarrech Posts: 118 Member
  • badtastebetty
    badtastebetty Posts: 326 Member
    Definitely more veggies!
  • chels0722
    chels0722 Posts: 465 Member
    If you are hungry, eat. Also, if you open up your diary we could help you out a little more. Drink more water and maybe spread your meals out a little more to subside the hunger longer.
  • You're not getting many veggies - they give you a lot of bang for your buck calorie wise.

    Also your breakfast is quite low in protein - a high protein breakfast always leaves me feeling more satisfied throughout the day.
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    What is your net calorie goal per day and what are you eating for dinner?

    As was said before you need more fibre so eat more fruit and veg and drink lots of water/herbal tea or whatever.
  • HealthWoke0ish
    HealthWoke0ish Posts: 2,078 Member
    I used to feel the need to eat a starch with my meat in order to feel full (e.g., rice with curry, potatoes with steak, fries with burger, etc.). I've begun to substitute lentils and carrots (sometimes together, sometimes separately) for those carbs and the result has been to feel more full while avoiding a lot of those carb calories. A chicken breast and a half a cup of lentils will fill me up more than a chicken breast and a cup or two of mashed potatoes (or rice) would. I also like quinoa and bean "salad". Good, nutritional filler. :) Besides that, I drink a minimum of a half gallon of water a day and I try to hit a gallon.

    Good luck to you! :)
  • Zippedydoodah
    Zippedydoodah Posts: 26 Member
    I will give adding more veggies in for a start, my feeling is that the salads I am taking in don't seem to be going a long way! (Leaf leaf leaf) I am really stumped about veg though, I can't seem to get around other that boiling/microwaving carrots and cauliflower and broccoli or roasting some peppers and mushrooms that there is any much else I want to eat. Especially for lunch since now that is normally salad, some salmon and a cup of rice.

    Jzalisa - definitely how I tend to feel about food, rice with curry, steak and potatoes, I think we might have the same mental menu ;) most of the girls I know like chicken and seafood and don't like heavy stuff whilst I am way more like a guy!

    Net calories are only 1350... I do eat back some of the exercise calories to stay sane. Generally half of whatever my fuel band tells me.

    Aoifefa - is whole meal bread and pb considered low in protein? I normally have that or 2 boiled eggs. Perhaps I should try the bread and PB then a boiled egg mid morning and mid afternoon...

    Thanks everyone for the advice I will give it a try!
  • adopt321
    adopt321 Posts: 111
    No offense but if I were eating that to I'd also be starving!

    I'd add some fruit, water, definitely a protein drink with breakfast maybe some deli ham (I cook 3-4 pieces) and a small snack after dinner (i.e. I use BSN protein drink). Other snack ideas are cottage cheese with triscuits or fruit, plain chobani yogurt with honey, packet oatmeal, rice cakes (white cheddar is good or caramel if you have a sweet tooth), etc.

    My breakfast 06:00-07:00: coffee w/cream, oatmeal, protein drink, water, banana or deli ham - 4 slices, black tea

    Snack 09:00-09:00: protein drink, rice cake or two, protein bar
  • krokador
    krokador Posts: 1,794 Member
    How about a veggie salad? Chop some carrots, onions, celery, tomatoes, spinach, radishes, cucumber, peppers, and heck, a granny smith apple to add some sweet tangy flavor (or dried cranberries are awesome, too!), toss it all in a bowl, add some spices, make portions of about 1.5 cups and have that as a side with meat. A bit of lemon juice will make it last a few days in sealed containers, and you can add some dressing right before you eat (or in the morning before leaving for work).

    I'll take a half hour to chop a good amount of that and be set for the week usually when I go that route :) You can get creative. I've gotten lazy lately and just bring a big bowl of raw veggies with me and munch on that for a while lol.
  • Zippedydoodah
    Zippedydoodah Posts: 26 Member
    I fyour hungry you're not eating enough of something..

    Add veggies and fruits..

    I find i'm not happy if I dont' get the veggie crunch in. (the cruncht veggies)

    Also.. that's not a very filling breakfast.. I mashed a banana in with steel cut oats and strawberry jam and ate it with boxty this morning (potato pancake basically) talk about full!

    :) if I had it my way it would be PB toast and 2 boiled eggs :) it is the lunch to dinner segment that really drives me crackers or rather the mid afternoon in general, no matter if I snack or not I still feel like I can consume a full extra lunch inbetween 3-6pm!
  • Zippedydoodah
    Zippedydoodah Posts: 26 Member
    No offense but if I were eating that to I'd also be starving!

    I'd add some fruit, water, definitely a protein drink with breakfast maybe some deli ham (I cook 3-4 pieces) and a small snack after dinner (i.e. I use BSN protein drink). Other snack ideas are cottage cheese with triscuits or fruit, plain chobani yogurt with honey, packet oatmeal, rice cakes (white cheddar is good or caramel if you have a sweet tooth), etc.

    My breakfast 06:00-07:00: coffee w/cream, oatmeal, protein drink, water, banana or deli ham - 4 slices, black tea

    Snack 09:00-09:00: protein drink, rice cake or two, protein bar

    that makes me feel a little better about myself - I was looking at my diary thinking if people looked at this they would laugh and tell me I am eating way too much. I have had a regular portion of jumbo oats with banana and maple syrup with soy milk and honestly within 2 hours I am starving again. - other people seem to survive on 2 slices of toast around me I am wondering why it seems to be so different for me.

    do protein drinks really make a lot of difference? I have tried it a couple of times before and I am not sure how much it staves my hunger for. I feel like I am getting a lot of protein in generally - the quantities quoted in magazines seem to be only 3-4 oz a meal whilst I am consuming at least either 8oz of beef or chicken at any given meal or a mid sized salmon steak.
  • Zippedydoodah
    Zippedydoodah Posts: 26 Member
    How about a veggie salad? Chop some carrots, onions, celery, tomatoes, spinach, radishes, cucumber, peppers, and heck, a granny smith apple to add some sweet tangy flavor (or dried cranberries are awesome, too!), toss it all in a bowl, add some spices, make portions of about 1.5 cups and have that as a side with meat. A bit of lemon juice will make it last a few days in sealed containers, and you can add some dressing right before you eat (or in the morning before leaving for work).

    I'll take a half hour to chop a good amount of that and be set for the week usually when I go that route :) You can get creative. I've gotten lazy lately and just bring a big bowl of raw veggies with me and munch on that for a while lol.

    hmm what spices do you use for your salads? I am not a big vinegar fan but I do like my peppers with olives and feta. :) I do like veggies - generally cooked and prepared by someone else! :)
  • shemalv7
    shemalv7 Posts: 3
    Almonds curb hunger. They work wonders for me. Also helps your brain function. Just dont eat too many because they are high in calorie! But perfect for the 3pm slump.
  • adopt321
    adopt321 Posts: 111
    It's probably just your body type and how it digests food. I know if I have bread or even just oatmeal (or anything that's high carbs) I'm starving like an hour or less later. The protein makes a HUGE difference for me and it tastes delicious! I use BSN Chocolate milkshake and it has 200 calories. Costco carries a protein drink (CryoSport) that has around 100 calories and the same amount (or similar) protein (22 grams). You might also look at how much health fat you're consuming. If it's not enough, you'll be hungry and you'll probably feel weak or fatigued.

    I think your calorie intake is too low - 1350??? You look young to so if you are young you can consume more calories than if you're older when your metabolism starts to slow down.

    It's tough figuring out what works but you should listen to your body. What is it telling you that it needs?
    No offense but if I were eating that to I'd also be starving!

    I'd add some fruit, water, definitely a protein drink with breakfast maybe some deli ham (I cook 3-4 pieces) and a small snack after dinner (i.e. I use BSN protein drink). Other snack ideas are cottage cheese with triscuits or fruit, plain chobani yogurt with honey, packet oatmeal, rice cakes (white cheddar is good or caramel if you have a sweet tooth), etc.

    My breakfast 06:00-07:00: coffee w/cream, oatmeal, protein drink, water, banana or deli ham - 4 slices, black tea

    Snack 09:00-09:00: protein drink, rice cake or two, protein bar

    that makes me feel a little better about myself - I was looking at my diary thinking if people looked at this they would laugh and tell me I am eating way too much. I have had a regular portion of jumbo oats with banana and maple syrup with soy milk and honestly within 2 hours I am starving again. - other people seem to survive on 2 slices of toast around me I am wondering why it seems to be so different for me.

    do protein drinks really make a lot of difference? I have tried it a couple of times before and I am not sure how much it staves my hunger for. I feel like I am getting a lot of protein in generally - the quantities quoted in magazines seem to be only 3-4 oz a meal whilst I am consuming at least either 8oz of beef or chicken at any given meal or a mid sized salmon steak.
  • Zippedydoodah
    Zippedydoodah Posts: 26 Member
    I am 30 so my metabolism has started slowing down to my horror - I am eating far better than I did in my teens but still have gained some weight although probably not significantly different in size. I know certain meals keep me fuller for much longer than others - actually probably much more balanced meals where it has a component of carbs and meat but certain things which are very carb heavy have me raving quite quickly after that no matter how fatty or how much I eat.

    Conversely very high protein meals do exactly the same to me (without the large sugar crash), I just cannot seem to be satisfied on a lot of protein and feel constantly empty. strangely I find that because I am quite nocturnal I could happily starve/eat very little til lunch then shift my food pattern to consume everything much later on.

    but I just find it really strange how everyone else around me seems to survive on so little and I do feel rather bad that I just can't seem to do the same - not clear if they really don't feel hungry or if they are just used to being hungry and controlling their weight because a lot of them don't work out!!
    It's probably just your body type and how it digests food. I know if I have bread or even just oatmeal (or anything that's high carbs) I'm starving like an hour or less later. The protein makes a HUGE difference for me and it tastes delicious! I use BSN Chocolate milkshake and it has 200 calories. Costco carries a protein drink (CryoSport) that has around 100 calories and the same amount (or similar) protein (22 grams). You might also look at how much health fat you're consuming. If it's not enough, you'll be hungry and you'll probably feel weak or fatigued.

    I think your calorie intake is too low - 1350??? You look young to so if you are young you can consume more calories than if you're older when your metabolism starts to slow down.

    It's tough figuring out what works but you should listen to your body. What is it telling you that it needs?
    No offense but if I were eating that to I'd also be starving!

    I'd add some fruit, water, definitely a protein drink with breakfast maybe some deli ham (I cook 3-4 pieces) and a small snack after dinner (i.e. I use BSN protein drink). Other snack ideas are cottage cheese with triscuits or fruit, plain chobani yogurt with honey, packet oatmeal, rice cakes (white cheddar is good or caramel if you have a sweet tooth), etc.

    My breakfast 06:00-07:00: coffee w/cream, oatmeal, protein drink, water, banana or deli ham - 4 slices, black tea

    Snack 09:00-09:00: protein drink, rice cake or two, protein bar

    that makes me feel a little better about myself - I was looking at my diary thinking if people looked at this they would laugh and tell me I am eating way too much. I have had a regular portion of jumbo oats with banana and maple syrup with soy milk and honestly within 2 hours I am starving again. - other people seem to survive on 2 slices of toast around me I am wondering why it seems to be so different for me.

    do protein drinks really make a lot of difference? I have tried it a couple of times before and I am not sure how much it staves my hunger for. I feel like I am getting a lot of protein in generally - the quantities quoted in magazines seem to be only 3-4 oz a meal whilst I am consuming at least either 8oz of beef or chicken at any given meal or a mid sized salmon steak.
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    Work out your TDEE on here and deduct 20% and that is how much you should be eating. I have a feeling it's way too low for you. I'm short and much older and can lose on aroun1650 with just 30 mins walking for exercise. Younger people get to eat more.

    http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html
  • Zippedydoodah
    Zippedydoodah Posts: 26 Member
    Work out your TDEE on here and deduct 20% and that is how much you should be eating. I have a feeling it's way too low for you. I'm short and much older and can lose on aroun1650 with just 30 mins walking for exercise. Younger people get to eat more.

    http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html

    I did think 1350 nett seems really low and that is just 1.5lbs loss a week target :s but I never eat that little I would perish... However weekends I find it very hard to deal with as I socialise so much... And I am already pretty teetotal, only about one drink a week and no sugary drinks at all :( I need to control my appetite!
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member

    Does not surprise me at all about the potato. I had a dinner not long ago of baked potato with hard boiled egg and was really full for five hours. Uually I too am hungry only hours or less after dinner. Protein and vegetables never cuts it for me.
  • krokador
    krokador Posts: 1,794 Member
    How about a veggie salad? Chop some carrots, onions, celery, tomatoes, spinach, radishes, cucumber, peppers, and heck, a granny smith apple to add some sweet tangy flavor (or dried cranberries are awesome, too!), toss it all in a bowl, add some spices, make portions of about 1.5 cups and have that as a side with meat. A bit of lemon juice will make it last a few days in sealed containers, and you can add some dressing right before you eat (or in the morning before leaving for work).

    I'll take a half hour to chop a good amount of that and be set for the week usually when I go that route :) You can get creative. I've gotten lazy lately and just bring a big bowl of raw veggies with me and munch on that for a while lol.

    hmm what spices do you use for your salads? I am not a big vinegar fan but I do like my peppers with olives and feta. :) I do like veggies - generally cooked and prepared by someone else! :)

    I have some I got at Zellers before they disappeared from the face of the earth here, I think they're called Club Salad spices. Or generic grocery salad spices (with reduced salt if possible) do the trick. or sometimes just a lil bit of italian seasoning. Or oregano and garlic salt. Or Mrs Dash garlic and herbs. I do enjoy mixing it up :) Not a huge fan of vinegar, although I really like balsamic vinegar mixed in with a bit of italian dressing on spinach and tomatoes for some reason. But otherwise I just go with low carb dressings and just a zilch of 'em.

    You could always get your kids or parents or boyfriend or cats to chop 'em up for you! Results may vary ;)