'stavation mode'

freckletone

I'm starting to doubt the legitimacy of this ha!
To lose weight I have to take in a lot less calories than the recommended 1,200

I just EAT when HUNGRY and STOP as soon as i'm FULL

so, imagine if that only brought in 800 calories from doing, or possibly less. plus take away calories from exercising- say about 150 a day, will you go into starvation mode?

even if you're eating when you're hungry?

pffttt. load of cobblers.

prattiger65

You serious? I am going to assume you are. A "lot" less than 1200 is bad juju. But dont take my word for it, do a little research.

freckletone

my body doesn't work like that
i lost 2st only by taken in a lot less and managed to keep it off for two years but after a break up i gained 7lb that i need to lose

all bodies are different
this is just mine
annoyingly enough

rowanwood

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prattiger65

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Yep, but we IBTL

SHBoss1673

I'm just curious as to what you think your maintenance calories are?

KANGOOJUMPS

starvation mode is bull****.

TeaBea

Definintions ........

1200 calories (at least) is what your body needs for everyday bodily function..... heart, lungs, kidneys ... you don't need to be at ZERO (or negative) to lose weight

BMR .... these are the calories used .... if you stayed in bed all the time

TDEE .... these are the total daily energy expenditure calories (includes exercise) .... this much higher number is to maintain your current weight.

Reduce your TDEE by 10-15% and you lose weight

Starvation mode is your metabolism slowing down ..... to survive a very low calorie diet. This is GROSSLY exagerated ..... I'm sure some anorexics experience this .... but being on a diet "for a week" is not going to screw up your metabolism

freckletone

Definintions ........

1200 calories (at least) is what your body needs for everyday bodily function..... heart, lungs, kidneys ... you don't need to be at ZERO (or negative) to lose weight

BMR .... these are the calories used .... if you stayed in bed all the time

TDEE .... these are the total daily energy expenditure calories (includes exercise) .... this much higher number is to maintain your current weight.

Reduce your TDEE by 10-15% and you lose weight

Starvation mode is your metabolism slowing down ..... to survive a very low calorie diet. This is GROSSLY exagerated ..... I'm sure some anorexics experience this .... but being on a diet "for a week" is not going to screw up your metabolism

yeah this is why i wondered
because i persoanlly hadn't experienced any problems in terms of gaining or anything.

I presume it's more of seriously low calorie in takes? but i was reading something on another site and a girl was stressing cos she was saying she wasn't reaching her 1,500 targets and everyone was saying this was SO BAD AND AWFUL AND SHE MUST EAT AND GAIN THE CALORIES

and so i wondered.

SHBoss1673

starvation mode is bull****.

nope, it's really not. look up adaptive thermogenesis.

RainHoward

starvation mode, as described on MFP is a load of crap.

prattiger65

IF you eat below BMR for an extended period of time, it will slow your metabolism down. I don't care what you want to call it, but it is certainly so. Its your body, do what you want to do. But you aren't "different" everyone has a BMR. I don't know your stats, but I am willing to bet that it is higher than 1200. In the end, you will do what you want in spite of people telling you different.. I read a statement the other day that I thought was very good. Take diet and nutritional advice from someone who has the body you want, not the body you currently have. Just a thought.

holly1283

I think the term starvation mode is misunderstood and probably the word survival mode should be used. A person's metabolism will slow down if the body thinks it is getting too few calories. That's a fact. From your picture(if it is you) and from the amount of weight you want to lose it does not appear that you have a major love affair with food like many of us do. You would do well to go to a nutritionist or dietician. Just like any other organism you need an adequate fuel source.

xiamjackie

You may be losing weight now, but I would take into consideration if you think you will be comfortable eating like this in the future.

I used to eat 800-900 calories a day and run 3-4 miles daily and I felt fine. My energy levels were up, I wasn't hungry, it was whatever. Eventually, that just didn't work for me and I needed more calories to have any sort of function of my body and to have energy. I gained weight because I had messed up my metabolism while only consuming a net of like 500 calories for a year. It has been much, much harder to lose the weight this time. I would just keep it in mind.

Also, aside from weight gain or loss, your body needs a certain amount of calories for your organs to function properly on a daily basis, without exercise. That's what your BMR is. When you drastically go below this is when you can start to have things get messed up in your body that you aren't even aware of.

Just something to think about. It's not always about losing weight, but being healthy as well. Someone can be eating 700 calories a day and weigh less than I do and it doesn't mean they are healthier.

freckletone

Yes, like i said I managed to lose 28lb doing this in the past and kept it off
it's only 7lb i'm losing which i gained last year as i found my way back to the crisps and biscuits :x

1,200 just doesn't work for me. I'm not quite sure how else I can say that?
but it was tried for three months but i wasn't losing anything. i stopped gaining however, but wasn't losing (i was too lazy at the time to do exercise i'll state, however) reduced the calories and it started coming off slowly and steadily after about two weeks.

freckletone

sorry, that was aimed at pratt.

MaeRenee94

Yes, like i said I managed to lose 28lb doing this in the past and kept it off
it's only 7lb i'm losing which i gained last year as i found my way back to the crisps and biscuits :x

1,200 just doesn't work for me. I'm not quite sure how else I can say that?
but it was tried for three months but i wasn't losing anything. i stopped gaining however, but wasn't losing (i was too lazy at the time to do exercise i'll state, however) reduced the calories and it started coming off slowly and steadily after about two weeks.

I also have a hard time eating what is recomended. I eat a diet of mostly veggies, fruit, gltuen free foods, and occasionaly meet. My meals are above the recomneded serving size but too low in calories. How does that work?
Like you, I am always full adn am losing weight all while feeling completely fine.

GamerLady

starvation mode is bull****.

I agree, but just 1200 calories would be too low for me, I'd feel like I was starving, lol.

freckletone

I'll also state I do running, excerise dvd, and yoga and was recently doing 1,100 an wasn't losing anything
even though i was doing all the exercise
i was doing that since december

i'm going by what my body tells me and it's telling me I'm taking in too many calories *shrugs*
it makes no real difference to me.

i'm guessing everyone has their own limit till when the starvation mode kicks in, because me personally taking in less calories than averagely suggested for someone of 4'10 and 119lb and at my age- 'starvation mode' just has not happened (yet)

i aint gonna reduce further to find out where my limit is though ha!

wareagle8706

DWW4U (do what works for you)

As long as your healthy and not just a wad of skin and bones with no muscle mass and your organs failing.


IB4TL

freckletone

i like the replies to this

some saying starvation mode should be respected, some saying it's rubbish

norcal_yogi

bump..........

freckletone

Yes, like i said I managed to lose 28lb doing this in the past and kept it off
it's only 7lb i'm losing which i gained last year as i found my way back to the crisps and biscuits :x

1,200 just doesn't work for me. I'm not quite sure how else I can say that?
but it was tried for three months but i wasn't losing anything. i stopped gaining however, but wasn't losing (i was too lazy at the time to do exercise i'll state, however) reduced the calories and it started coming off slowly and steadily after about two weeks.

I also have a hard time eating what is recomended. I eat a diet of mostly veggies, fruit, gltuen free foods, and occasionaly meet. My meals are above the recomneded serving size but too low in calories. How does that work?
Like you, I am always full adn am losing weight all while feeling completely fine.

totally
i don't agree with people getting on your back when you feel fine, you are NOT letting yourself go hungry- eating whenever yu're hungry-
and so long as weight isn't coming off too fast, and it's steady and you're getting enough nutrients etc etc.

wareagle8706

i like the replies to this

some saying starvation mode should be respected, some saying it's rubbish

What tickles me is that some people say, "you need to eat when your hungry and stop when you're full. That's the right thing to do." But then when someone like you comes along and says, "well, I do truly do that but I don't hit 1,200. But I feel completely fine." All of a sudden they're telling you to force feed yourself and seek professional help. :laugh:

kprep

starvation mode is false but can leave you with a lot of awful side effects.
ie heart failure, osteoporosis, blacking out all the time, hair loss, infertility...
do what you want but if your intake falls under what others refer to as starvation mode, you are hurting your body.

Dragonnade

Starvation mode takes a while to take effect. I always broke, shovelled chocolate in my face and then sobbed in the bath LONG before my metabolism could properly close off.

Therefore it can't exist. Cos chocolate binge = survival.



Srsly, just eat sensibly. Calorie counting is great for realising you've just downed a 4000 calorie pizza but also great for realising you're sleeping badly, an emotional wreck and weak as anything because you're barely eating a thing. Listen to your body and EXPERIMENT so you know whether netting 400 is actually good for you or if everything's happier netting at 1400.

freckletone

starvation mode is false but can leave you with a lot of awful side effects.
ie heart failure, osteoporosis, blacking out all the time, hair loss, infertility...
do what you want but if your intake falls under what others refer to as starvation mode, you are hurting your body.

good input- thanks

freckletone

AHAAA we've all been there with teh chocolate

neanderthin

I'm starting to doubt the legitimacy of this ha!
To lose weight I have to take in a lot less calories than the recommended 1,200

I just EAT when HUNGRY and STOP as soon as i'm FULL

so, imagine if that only brought in 800 calories from doing, or possibly less. plus take away calories from exercising- say about 150 a day, will you go into starvation mode?

even if you're eating when you're hungry?

pffttt. load of cobblers.

Most of the stall problems are miscalculations of caloric intake and calories burned. Adaptive thermogenesis is real, but generally doesn't stop weight loss unless my first sentence applies. When there's no body fat to speak of, then the other definition of starvation mode applies, then you die.

TriShamelessly

Here is a collection of articles on so-called "starvation mode" (or slowed metabolism or whatever you want to call it) for those who are interested in reading more (I'm not stepping in this pile):

http://mrwhatis.com/starvation-mode-calories.html

For why the basic dynamics of the human body are the same for everyone, try this:

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html

Best wishes to all!

healthyskinnystrong

it might seem like nonsense to you now, but believe me starvation mode is real. I ate 600-800 calories a day for about 5 months, started binging and so I tried to up my calories so that I wouldn't binge any more. 1000 calories and I was absolutely full, and also 20 pounds heavier. Starvation mode exists!