I never understood why ppl go for "lean protein"
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Math.
25% of calories from protein used for digestion.
10% from carbs.
5% from fat.
Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories
Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories
Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories
Alcohol: 1 gram = 7 calories0 -
There is a difference in good and bad cholesterol:
Animal fat = bad cholesterol LDL
Avocados or olive oil = good cholesterol. HDL
Er, no. Animal fat contains cholesterol. Plants do not contain significant amounts of cholesterol. The human body makes and recycles its own cholesterol, and what you eat may, or may not, have an effect on your LDL and HDL levels. Cholesterol isn't in a form that is good or bad. It's the same cholesterol either way. People can have high LDL and low HDL levels on a low fat diet.0 -
lets be real, if you eat a porterhouse everyday, with a TON of fat, and you are still eating under the calories, you are good,
i always see ppl saying "im bored of chiecken or board of x,y,z"
yeah im a have an angus burger with bacon on the side, while you have your healthy "lean protein, that is low fat"
inb4 you disagree with this logical argument.
lolerz.
you enjoy your terrible omega 6 to 3 ratio!0 -
you enjoy your terrible omega 6 to 3 ratio!
Oh yeah! That's another thing about animal fat. It's the only fat that has omega-3 in the configuration that has been shown to be beneficial in the body. The omega-3 in those darn flax seeds is not the same, and our bodies do not convert it. That's what the bacteria in the stomach of a cow or a buffalo do.0 -
you enjoy your terrible omega 6 to 3 ratio!
Oh yeah! That's another thing about animal fat. It's the only fat that has omega-3 in the configuration that has been shown to be beneficial in the body. The omega-3 in those darn flax seeds is not the same, and our bodies do not convert it. That's what the bacteria in the stomach of a cow or a buffalo do.
you couldn't be more wrong regarding the meat and animal fat MOST people eat.
the only animal fats that have good levels of omega 3's are fish, and the meat from GRASS FED, FREE RANGE cattle/poultry etc etc. animals raised in feedlots have significantly higher levels of omega 6s and contribute to raising our cholesterol and heart attack rates. in other words, that angus burger is much worse for your omega levels than the lean protein.0 -
Wrong again.
you enjoy your terrible omega 6 to 3 ratio!
Oh yeah! That's another thing about animal fat. It's the only fat that has omega-3 in the configuration that has been shown to be beneficial in the body. The omega-3 in those darn flax seeds is not the same, and our bodies do not convert it. That's what the bacteria in the stomach of a cow or a buffalo do.
you couldn't be more wrong regarding the meat and animal fat MOST people eat.
the only animal fats that have good levels of omega 3's are fish, and the meat from GRASS FED, FREE RANGE cattle/poultry etc etc. animals raised in feedlots have significantly higher levels of omega 6s and contribute to raising our cholesterol and heart attack rates. in other words, that angus burger is much worse for your omega levels than the lean protein.
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Actually animal fats raise HDL the most and if your replace saturated fat from animal sources with avocado and olive oil HDL levels are reduced.Cholesterol.
Cholesterol from animal does not affect your cholesterol as much as you think it does. Your body produces way more cholesterol than you probably consume.
There is a difference in good and bad cholesterol:
Animal fat = bad cholesterol LDL
Avocados or olive oil = good cholesterol. HDL0 -
Wrong again.
you enjoy your terrible omega 6 to 3 ratio!
Oh yeah! That's another thing about animal fat. It's the only fat that has omega-3 in the configuration that has been shown to be beneficial in the body. The omega-3 in those darn flax seeds is not the same, and our bodies do not convert it. That's what the bacteria in the stomach of a cow or a buffalo do.
you couldn't be more wrong regarding the meat and animal fat MOST people eat.
the only animal fats that have good levels of omega 3's are fish, and the meat from GRASS FED, FREE RANGE cattle/poultry etc etc. animals raised in feedlots have significantly higher levels of omega 6s and contribute to raising our cholesterol and heart attack rates. in other words, that angus burger is much worse for your omega levels than the lean protein.
nope.0 -
There are healthy fats and unhealthy fats. The fat in red meat is the unhealthy kind. I've done a lot of research into nutrition; it's an avid interest, so this is an informed opinion.
Even with seeking out lean proteins, I go over on my fat macro (set at 30) about half the time because of nuts. But at least that's a healthy fat.0 -
Considering beef has insignificant amounts of polyunsaturated fats to begin with how would the significant higher levels contribute to cholesterol considering omegas don't have cholesterol and with feed lot compared to grass fed being almost the same omega balance at anywhere from 2:1 to 4:1how would this somehow have significantly higher levels when their the same and contribute to heart disease?
Wrong again.
you enjoy your terrible omega 6 to 3 ratio!
Oh yeah! That's another thing about animal fat. It's the only fat that has omega-3 in the configuration that has been shown to be beneficial in the body. The omega-3 in those darn flax seeds is not the same, and our bodies do not convert it. That's what the bacteria in the stomach of a cow or a buffalo do.
you couldn't be more wrong regarding the meat and animal fat MOST people eat.
the only animal fats that have good levels of omega 3's are fish, and the meat from GRASS FED, FREE RANGE cattle/poultry etc etc. animals raised in feedlots have significantly higher levels of omega 6s and contribute to raising our cholesterol and heart attack rates. in other words, that angus burger is much worse for your omega levels than the lean protein.
nope.0 -
Considering beef has insignificant amounts of polyunsaturated fats to begin with how would the significant higher levels contribute to cholesterol considering omegas don't have cholesterol and with feed lot compared to grass fed being almost the same omega balance at anywhere from 2:1 to 4:1how would this somehow have significantly higher levels when their the same and contribute to heart disease?
Wrong again.
you enjoy your terrible omega 6 to 3 ratio!
Oh yeah! That's another thing about animal fat. It's the only fat that has omega-3 in the configuration that has been shown to be beneficial in the body. The omega-3 in those darn flax seeds is not the same, and our bodies do not convert it. That's what the bacteria in the stomach of a cow or a buffalo do.
you couldn't be more wrong regarding the meat and animal fat MOST people eat.
the only animal fats that have good levels of omega 3's are fish, and the meat from GRASS FED, FREE RANGE cattle/poultry etc etc. animals raised in feedlots have significantly higher levels of omega 6s and contribute to raising our cholesterol and heart attack rates. in other words, that angus burger is much worse for your omega levels than the lean protein.
nope.
"Grass-fed beef is also higher in B-vitamins, beta-carotene (look for yellow fat), vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol), vitamin K, and trace minerals like magnesium, calcium, and selenium. Studies show grass feeding results in higher levels of conjugated linoleic acid, the “good” naturally occurring trans fat."
Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-differences-between-grass-fed-beef-and-grain-fed-beef/#ixzz2NdqG4KKb
"The results were impressive. Grass-finished eaters saw improved plasma and platelet fatty acid composition: less omega-6, more omega-3. This would presumably lead to a more balanced inflammatory response and, thus, better health."
"This makes me wonder whether simply breaking food down into its various nutrients and fatty acids is missing the point. If you relied on that, you’d think grain-fed beef was essentially identical to grass-fed, but it’s clearly not, as the results of this study show. Maybe it’s the DPA, an often-ignored omega-3 fat that’s prominent in seal blubber and converts more readily to DHA, and that was increased in the grass-finished group. Maybe, and probably more likely, it’s the fact that omega-6 intake, especially linoleic acid (arachidonic acid intake was actually higher in grass-finished), was significantly higher in the grain-fed group than in the grass-finished group, about 8.5 g/day to 5.5 g/day. Or maybe it’s the fact that grass-finished animal flesh is a complex whole food that offers more benefits than can heretofore be identified and explained."
Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/monday-musings-new-grass-fed-study/#ixzz2Ndr7RSsU0 -
I have no problem with fat. The only reason I eat more carbs/protein is
1000 cals of fat is 111g of food
1000 cals of carbs/protein is 250g of food.
I'd rather have twice as much food and restrict my fat a bit.0 -
Love my Ribeye!
Oh yes, me too :drinker:0 -
lol.........yes grass fed is better beef overall. yoy. I was referring to the your sensational statement that feedlot beef have substantially more omega 6's, when in fact 100g's of feedlot flank steak has 47mg's of omega 6's which is almost non existent and an omega balance of 2:1 which is not too bad I would say. Wild Bison for example has 110mg's of omega 6's and 30mg's of omega 3's so a balance of 3:1, a worse profile than the feedlot flank. Again if you want to pick on omega 6's and omega balance why not get in the grill of people consuming peanut butter where 2 tbsps has 4400mg's of omega 6's and an omega balance of 183:1.
Considering beef has insignificant amounts of polyunsaturated fats to begin with how would the significant higher levels contribute to cholesterol considering omegas don't have cholesterol and with feed lot compared to grass fed being almost the same omega balance at anywhere from 2:1 to 4:1how would this somehow have significantly higher levels when their the same and contribute to heart disease?
Wrong again.
you enjoy your terrible omega 6 to 3 ratio!
Oh yeah! That's another thing about animal fat. It's the only fat that has omega-3 in the configuration that has been shown to be beneficial in the body. The omega-3 in those darn flax seeds is not the same, and our bodies do not convert it. That's what the bacteria in the stomach of a cow or a buffalo do.
you couldn't be more wrong regarding the meat and animal fat MOST people eat.
the only animal fats that have good levels of omega 3's are fish, and the meat from GRASS FED, FREE RANGE cattle/poultry etc etc. animals raised in feedlots have significantly higher levels of omega 6s and contribute to raising our cholesterol and heart attack rates. in other words, that angus burger is much worse for your omega levels than the lean protein.
nope.
"Grass-fed beef is also higher in B-vitamins, beta-carotene (look for yellow fat), vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol), vitamin K, and trace minerals like magnesium, calcium, and selenium. Studies show grass feeding results in higher levels of conjugated linoleic acid, the “good” naturally occurring trans fat."
Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-differences-between-grass-fed-beef-and-grain-fed-beef/#ixzz2NdqG4KKb
"The results were impressive. Grass-finished eaters saw improved plasma and platelet fatty acid composition: less omega-6, more omega-3. This would presumably lead to a more balanced inflammatory response and, thus, better health."
"This makes me wonder whether simply breaking food down into its various nutrients and fatty acids is missing the point. If you relied on that, you’d think grain-fed beef was essentially identical to grass-fed, but it’s clearly not, as the results of this study show. Maybe it’s the DPA, an often-ignored omega-3 fat that’s prominent in seal blubber and converts more readily to DHA, and that was increased in the grass-finished group. Maybe, and probably more likely, it’s the fact that omega-6 intake, especially linoleic acid (arachidonic acid intake was actually higher in grass-finished), was significantly higher in the grain-fed group than in the grass-finished group, about 8.5 g/day to 5.5 g/day. Or maybe it’s the fact that grass-finished animal flesh is a complex whole food that offers more benefits than can heretofore be identified and explained."
Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/monday-musings-new-grass-fed-study/#ixzz2Ndr7RSsU0 -
lol.........yes grass fed is better beef overall. yoy. I was referring to the your sensational statement that feedlot beef have substantially more omega 6's, when in fact 100g's of feedlot flank steak has 47mg's of omega 6's which is almost non existent and an omega balance of 2:1 which is not too bad I would say. Wild Bison for example has 110mg's of omega 6's and 30mg's of omega 3's so a balance of 3:1, a worse profile than the feedlot flank. Again if you want to pick on omega 6's and omega balance why not get in the grill of people consuming peanut butter where 2 tbsps has 4400mg's of omega 6's and an omega balance of 183:1.
Considering beef has insignificant amounts of polyunsaturated fats to begin with how would the significant higher levels contribute to cholesterol considering omegas don't have cholesterol and with feed lot compared to grass fed being almost the same omega balance at anywhere from 2:1 to 4:1how would this somehow have significantly higher levels when their the same and contribute to heart disease?
Wrong again.
you enjoy your terrible omega 6 to 3 ratio!
Oh yeah! That's another thing about animal fat. It's the only fat that has omega-3 in the configuration that has been shown to be beneficial in the body. The omega-3 in those darn flax seeds is not the same, and our bodies do not convert it. That's what the bacteria in the stomach of a cow or a buffalo do.
you couldn't be more wrong regarding the meat and animal fat MOST people eat.
the only animal fats that have good levels of omega 3's are fish, and the meat from GRASS FED, FREE RANGE cattle/poultry etc etc. animals raised in feedlots have significantly higher levels of omega 6s and contribute to raising our cholesterol and heart attack rates. in other words, that angus burger is much worse for your omega levels than the lean protein.
nope.
"Grass-fed beef is also higher in B-vitamins, beta-carotene (look for yellow fat), vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol), vitamin K, and trace minerals like magnesium, calcium, and selenium. Studies show grass feeding results in higher levels of conjugated linoleic acid, the “good” naturally occurring trans fat."
Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-differences-between-grass-fed-beef-and-grain-fed-beef/#ixzz2NdqG4KKb
"The results were impressive. Grass-finished eaters saw improved plasma and platelet fatty acid composition: less omega-6, more omega-3. This would presumably lead to a more balanced inflammatory response and, thus, better health."
"This makes me wonder whether simply breaking food down into its various nutrients and fatty acids is missing the point. If you relied on that, you’d think grain-fed beef was essentially identical to grass-fed, but it’s clearly not, as the results of this study show. Maybe it’s the DPA, an often-ignored omega-3 fat that’s prominent in seal blubber and converts more readily to DHA, and that was increased in the grass-finished group. Maybe, and probably more likely, it’s the fact that omega-6 intake, especially linoleic acid (arachidonic acid intake was actually higher in grass-finished), was significantly higher in the grain-fed group than in the grass-finished group, about 8.5 g/day to 5.5 g/day. Or maybe it’s the fact that grass-finished animal flesh is a complex whole food that offers more benefits than can heretofore be identified and explained."
Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/monday-musings-new-grass-fed-study/#ixzz2Ndr7RSsU
because this is a thread about lean protein?0 -
If it fits your macros, eat that ****!
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Of course it is, and we certainly don't want to derail it, lol.
lol.........yes grass fed is better beef overall. yoy. I was referring to the your sensational statement that feedlot beef have substantially more omega 6's, when in fact 100g's of feedlot flank steak has 47mg's of omega 6's which is almost non existent and an omega balance of 2:1 which is not too bad I would say. Wild Bison for example has 110mg's of omega 6's and 30mg's of omega 3's so a balance of 3:1, a worse profile than the feedlot flank. Again if you want to pick on omega 6's and omega balance why not get in the grill of people consuming peanut butter where 2 tbsps has 4400mg's of omega 6's and an omega balance of 183:1.
Considering beef has insignificant amounts of polyunsaturated fats to begin with how would the significant higher levels contribute to cholesterol considering omegas don't have cholesterol and with feed lot compared to grass fed being almost the same omega balance at anywhere from 2:1 to 4:1how would this somehow have significantly higher levels when their the same and contribute to heart disease?
Wrong again.
you enjoy your terrible omega 6 to 3 ratio!
Oh yeah! That's another thing about animal fat. It's the only fat that has omega-3 in the configuration that has been shown to be beneficial in the body. The omega-3 in those darn flax seeds is not the same, and our bodies do not convert it. That's what the bacteria in the stomach of a cow or a buffalo do.
you couldn't be more wrong regarding the meat and animal fat MOST people eat.
the only animal fats that have good levels of omega 3's are fish, and the meat from GRASS FED, FREE RANGE cattle/poultry etc etc. animals raised in feedlots have significantly higher levels of omega 6s and contribute to raising our cholesterol and heart attack rates. in other words, that angus burger is much worse for your omega levels than the lean protein.
nope.
"Grass-fed beef is also higher in B-vitamins, beta-carotene (look for yellow fat), vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol), vitamin K, and trace minerals like magnesium, calcium, and selenium. Studies show grass feeding results in higher levels of conjugated linoleic acid, the “good” naturally occurring trans fat."
Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-differences-between-grass-fed-beef-and-grain-fed-beef/#ixzz2NdqG4KKb
"The results were impressive. Grass-finished eaters saw improved plasma and platelet fatty acid composition: less omega-6, more omega-3. This would presumably lead to a more balanced inflammatory response and, thus, better health."
"This makes me wonder whether simply breaking food down into its various nutrients and fatty acids is missing the point. If you relied on that, you’d think grain-fed beef was essentially identical to grass-fed, but it’s clearly not, as the results of this study show. Maybe it’s the DPA, an often-ignored omega-3 fat that’s prominent in seal blubber and converts more readily to DHA, and that was increased in the grass-finished group. Maybe, and probably more likely, it’s the fact that omega-6 intake, especially linoleic acid (arachidonic acid intake was actually higher in grass-finished), was significantly higher in the grain-fed group than in the grass-finished group, about 8.5 g/day to 5.5 g/day. Or maybe it’s the fact that grass-finished animal flesh is a complex whole food that offers more benefits than can heretofore be identified and explained."
Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/monday-musings-new-grass-fed-study/#ixzz2Ndr7RSsU
because this is a thread about lean protein?0 -
cholesterol, ldl and ROS, trans fats. bad bad bad bad = cardiovascular problems.0
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Of course it is, and we certainly don't want to derail it, lol.
lol.........yes grass fed is better beef overall. yoy. I was referring to the your sensational statement that feedlot beef have substantially more omega 6's, when in fact 100g's of feedlot flank steak has 47mg's of omega 6's which is almost non existent and an omega balance of 2:1 which is not too bad I would say. Wild Bison for example has 110mg's of omega 6's and 30mg's of omega 3's so a balance of 3:1, a worse profile than the feedlot flank. Again if you want to pick on omega 6's and omega balance why not get in the grill of people consuming peanut butter where 2 tbsps has 4400mg's of omega 6's and an omega balance of 183:1.
Considering beef has insignificant amounts of polyunsaturated fats to begin with how would the significant higher levels contribute to cholesterol considering omegas don't have cholesterol and with feed lot compared to grass fed being almost the same omega balance at anywhere from 2:1 to 4:1how would this somehow have significantly higher levels when their the same and contribute to heart disease?
Wrong again.
you enjoy your terrible omega 6 to 3 ratio!
Oh yeah! That's another thing about animal fat. It's the only fat that has omega-3 in the configuration that has been shown to be beneficial in the body. The omega-3 in those darn flax seeds is not the same, and our bodies do not convert it. That's what the bacteria in the stomach of a cow or a buffalo do.
you couldn't be more wrong regarding the meat and animal fat MOST people eat.
the only animal fats that have good levels of omega 3's are fish, and the meat from GRASS FED, FREE RANGE cattle/poultry etc etc. animals raised in feedlots have significantly higher levels of omega 6s and contribute to raising our cholesterol and heart attack rates. in other words, that angus burger is much worse for your omega levels than the lean protein.
nope.
"Grass-fed beef is also higher in B-vitamins, beta-carotene (look for yellow fat), vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol), vitamin K, and trace minerals like magnesium, calcium, and selenium. Studies show grass feeding results in higher levels of conjugated linoleic acid, the “good” naturally occurring trans fat."
Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-differences-between-grass-fed-beef-and-grain-fed-beef/#ixzz2NdqG4KKb
"The results were impressive. Grass-finished eaters saw improved plasma and platelet fatty acid composition: less omega-6, more omega-3. This would presumably lead to a more balanced inflammatory response and, thus, better health."
"This makes me wonder whether simply breaking food down into its various nutrients and fatty acids is missing the point. If you relied on that, you’d think grain-fed beef was essentially identical to grass-fed, but it’s clearly not, as the results of this study show. Maybe it’s the DPA, an often-ignored omega-3 fat that’s prominent in seal blubber and converts more readily to DHA, and that was increased in the grass-finished group. Maybe, and probably more likely, it’s the fact that omega-6 intake, especially linoleic acid (arachidonic acid intake was actually higher in grass-finished), was significantly higher in the grain-fed group than in the grass-finished group, about 8.5 g/day to 5.5 g/day. Or maybe it’s the fact that grass-finished animal flesh is a complex whole food that offers more benefits than can heretofore be identified and explained."
Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/monday-musings-new-grass-fed-study/#ixzz2Ndr7RSsU
because this is a thread about lean protein?
glad you agree.0 -
Why do you care what kind of meat people choose to eat? If you love eating fat, then EAT IT!!!! If Joe Blow loves eating Chicken, then he should eat that!!! For the sake of everybody on here trying to lose weight, stop with petty friggen posts like this... "Blah blah blah!! My fatty diet is better than your lean diet!!" It is Nonsense!!!
We all need to support each other in our weight loss journeys... You have your reasons for eating what you eat, Just like other's have their reasons for what they eat... Not really sure why this needs to spark a debate???
"Why do you care what kind of meat people choose to eat?" why do ppl feel the need to write this, it adds nothing to the topic, thread about opinions, dont like it, get out! im looking for opinions, seriously its like you are trying way too hard to seem like you dont care, yet you write a whole paragraph about it.
seriously. stop trying to act posh.0 -
Cholesterol.
Cholesterol from animal does not affect your cholesterol as much as you think it does. Your body produces way more cholesterol than you probably consume.
Um--this varies a great deal from person to person--some can control their cholesterol levels strictly via diet while others need medication cause they make too much no matter ho much they eat.
As to the original question: I love a nice juicy steak. I also love natural peanut butter which is loaded with fat--but the good kind! For me, it's all about variety--some chicken, some red meat, some fish/seafood, some vegetarian meals!0 -
Because eating too much greasy, fatty meat is super tasty, but eventually it makes my tummy hurt and my skin break out.
I love a good steak as much as (or perhaps more than) the next person, but it's expensive and the enjoyment decreases if I eat it too frequently. I may be able to lose weight that way, but it feels a lot heavier in my stomach and gives me the tummy gurgles afterwards.
I actually don't really like most chicken or fish options, so I end up sticking with a lot of vegetarian proteins (beans, etc.) in between steaks.0 -
I don't eat red meat at all for medical reasons. I am not avoiding it because of fat but more so because I don't want to become violently ill. I will stick to poultry and seafood (pork on rare occasions).0
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There are days I eat lean protein, and days I eat fatty protein. I'm not a fan of fat on steaks or chicken or anything like that because the texture is so horrible, but I absolutely love some breakfast sausage and bacon. For breakfast some days, I'll do sausage and eggs. On other days, I'll have a salad with some shredded chicken breast. It all depends on what I'm eating, really. I don't have anything against fatty meat or lean meat. It's all the same to me as long as I meet my personal macros.0
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I trim all the fat off my steaks, pork chops & chicken because I can't stand the texture, has nothing to do whether I think it is good or bad to eat.
I will pound sausage & bacon like there's no end in sight. But I'll trim the slightest little sliver of fat off a steak cause it's just gros to me.0
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