Oatmeal lovers please read
skinny1801
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I found this article online, i eat oatmeal at least twice a day. This explains why I now have dark circles under my eyes, i knew it was lack of Iron but i did not know why. i just by fate came across this article.
(this is the website where i copied and pasted my information)
http://www.highonhealth.org/why-its-very-important-to-soak-oats-before-you-eat-them/
A friend of mine recently had a blood test for mineral deficiency, and it turns out that she’s deficient in vitamin b12. This surprised me because she has an incredibly healthy diet. But what the naturopath told her completely took me by surprise. She was told that the oatmeal she was eating each morning was possibly blocking the production of Vitamin b12 in her body!
You must soak oats for several hours before you eat them
It’s really, really important to soak your oats for several hours before you eat them, whether or not you end up cooking them. Somehow this knowledge of having to soak oats got lost about the same time fast food came in. I guess we all just got a bit lazy and we didn’t understand why we were soaking them in the first place.
Ever since people first started eating oats, they either soaked or fermented them first. And when oats were first packaged and sold in grocery stores, there were even soaking instructions on the box. You never see that anymore.
Why oats need to be soaked
Here’s an extract from Nourishing Traditions which explains the reason why oats need to be soaked better than I could -
All grains contain phytic acid (an organic acid in which phosphorous is bound) in the outer layer or bran. Untreated phytic acid can combine with calcium, magnesium, copper, iron especially zinc in the intestinal track and block their absorption. This is why a diet high in unfermented whole grains may led to serious mineral deficiencies and bone loss. The modern misguided practice of consuming large amounts of unprocessed bran often improves colon transit time at first but may lead to irritable bowel syndrome and, in the long term, many other adverse effects. Soaking allows enzyme, lactobacilli and other helpful organisms to break down and neutralize phytic acid. As little as seven hours of soaking in warm acidulated water will neutralize a large portion of phytic acid in grains. The simple practice of soaking cracked or rolled cereal grains overnight will vastly improve their nutritional benefits.
I see a lot of conversation in acne forums about grains and how grains can make the skin a lot worse. It kind of makes a lot of sense to me now. A diet high in unsoaked or unfermentated grains can in fact lead to mineral deficiency and irritable bowel syndrome so it’s no wonder that our skin is better once we stop eating them. And lets be realistic – who here soaks and ferments all their grains? Not me.
Interestingly, the Body Ecology Diet only allows for a small number of grains, and recommends soaking the grains before eating or cooking them. And since that book is all about cleaning out the colon and improving the digestive system, it just proves again how important it is to soak grains, or at least your oats before you eat them.
So from now on, I’m going to soak my oats in water each night before I go to bed!
(this is the website where i copied and pasted my information)
http://www.highonhealth.org/why-its-very-important-to-soak-oats-before-you-eat-them/
A friend of mine recently had a blood test for mineral deficiency, and it turns out that she’s deficient in vitamin b12. This surprised me because she has an incredibly healthy diet. But what the naturopath told her completely took me by surprise. She was told that the oatmeal she was eating each morning was possibly blocking the production of Vitamin b12 in her body!
You must soak oats for several hours before you eat them
It’s really, really important to soak your oats for several hours before you eat them, whether or not you end up cooking them. Somehow this knowledge of having to soak oats got lost about the same time fast food came in. I guess we all just got a bit lazy and we didn’t understand why we were soaking them in the first place.
Ever since people first started eating oats, they either soaked or fermented them first. And when oats were first packaged and sold in grocery stores, there were even soaking instructions on the box. You never see that anymore.
Why oats need to be soaked
Here’s an extract from Nourishing Traditions which explains the reason why oats need to be soaked better than I could -
All grains contain phytic acid (an organic acid in which phosphorous is bound) in the outer layer or bran. Untreated phytic acid can combine with calcium, magnesium, copper, iron especially zinc in the intestinal track and block their absorption. This is why a diet high in unfermented whole grains may led to serious mineral deficiencies and bone loss. The modern misguided practice of consuming large amounts of unprocessed bran often improves colon transit time at first but may lead to irritable bowel syndrome and, in the long term, many other adverse effects. Soaking allows enzyme, lactobacilli and other helpful organisms to break down and neutralize phytic acid. As little as seven hours of soaking in warm acidulated water will neutralize a large portion of phytic acid in grains. The simple practice of soaking cracked or rolled cereal grains overnight will vastly improve their nutritional benefits.
I see a lot of conversation in acne forums about grains and how grains can make the skin a lot worse. It kind of makes a lot of sense to me now. A diet high in unsoaked or unfermentated grains can in fact lead to mineral deficiency and irritable bowel syndrome so it’s no wonder that our skin is better once we stop eating them. And lets be realistic – who here soaks and ferments all their grains? Not me.
Interestingly, the Body Ecology Diet only allows for a small number of grains, and recommends soaking the grains before eating or cooking them. And since that book is all about cleaning out the colon and improving the digestive system, it just proves again how important it is to soak grains, or at least your oats before you eat them.
So from now on, I’m going to soak my oats in water each night before I go to bed!
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what about quaker rolled oats?0
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What about instant oatmeal?0
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yes still soak them. The quaker oats used to have a Soak Oats directions on the box0
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im not to sure about instant oatmeal0
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Low on B vitamins???
Get some marmite..
It's yum and full of iron too hun... It's a yeast extract spread (check it out online)...
B-)0 -
Sonic I cook my porridge in a slow cooker overnight (about 8 hours), do I still need to soak them beforehand? Or will the long cooking time in water do the job?0
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Vitamin B12 is not produced in the body. You ingest it. Vitamin B12 is then bound to intrinsic factor produced by parietal cells in the stomach and is carried to the distal ileum where it is then absorbed. I have not read any real research papers stating that oats can do any of that. Also by the time the b12 gets to the distal ileum, it will have been exposed to copious amounts of hydrochloric acid and digestive enzymes so its no stranger to nasty substances. I also cant see how soaking makes any difference as oats absorb water, and anything else you throw at them so would just soak up any "acid" that the coat produced. Humans have eaten oats in all ways for centuries, and its not that that causes B12 deficiency.9
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Also, Iron (Fe2+) is Iron (Fe2+), not B12, B12 is nothing to do with Iron. I know you are thinking that your porridge is somehow zapping you of your minerals... but I would maybe suggest that if you are lacking minerals then its maybe because you dont have enough variety in your diet. You can top them up, B12 (eggs, dairy) folate (greens) or if you think you need some iron (greens, nuts, beans, dried fruit, meats). To much of one thing is never good for you, to get all the nutrients you need variety is key!5
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Also, Iron (Fe2+) is Iron (Fe2+), not B12, B12 is nothing to do with Iron. I know you are thinking that your porridge is somehow zapping you of your minerals... but I would maybe suggest that if you are lacking minerals then its maybe because you dont have enough variety in your diet. You can top them up, B12 (eggs, dairy) folate (greens) or if you think you need some iron (greens, nuts, beans, dried fruit, meats). To much of one thing is never good for you, to get all the nutrients you need variety is key!
Yes.0 -
Also, Iron (Fe2+) is Iron (Fe2+), not B12, B12 is nothing to do with Iron. I know you are thinking that your porridge is somehow zapping you of your minerals... but I would maybe suggest that if you are lacking minerals then its maybe because you dont have enough variety in your diet. You can top them up, B12 (eggs, dairy) folate (greens) or if you think you need some iron (greens, nuts, beans, dried fruit, meats). To much of one thing is never good for you, to get all the nutrients you need variety is key!
That, and the fact that the article writer thinks it's an intestinal "track".6 -
Vitamin B12 is not produced in the body. You ingest it. Vitamin B12 is then bound to intrinsic factor produced by parietal cells in the stomach and is carried to the distal ileum where it is then absorbed. I have not read any real research papers stating that oats can do any of that. Also by the time the b12 gets to the distal ileum, it will have been exposed to copious amounts of hydrochloric acid and digestive enzymes so its no stranger to nasty substances. I also cant see how soaking makes any difference as oats absorb water, and anything else you throw at them so would just soak up any "acid" that the coat produced. Humans have eaten oats in all ways for centuries, and its not that that causes B12 deficiency.
Also bags and dark circles under the eyes have more to do with genetics, allergies or lack of sleep. Not sure what the heck non-soaked oats has to do with it. :huh:5 -
If you are eating oatmeal twice a day I would be concerned about not getting enough nutrients. Oatmeal is a great filler but you really need the protein and greens for a balanced diet.1
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You lost me at naturopath.7
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Instant oatmeal is a highly processed food. The carbohydrate absorption is slower with rolled oats. The phytic acid is released in the grains while soaked. So when you pour off the soaking water and rinse the oatmeal, it goes down the sink instead of into your body. Soaking and fermenting grains is THE traditional way (ie 100's of years) way of preparing grains. Notice even Dr Furhman recomends soaking oatmeal. Legumes should also be soaked and rinsed before they are cooked. All this soaking also considerably lessens cooking time.1
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Thanks so much for taking the time to share what you've discovered
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Should you also soak gluten free oats?0
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LOL3
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Are you kidding me? The author of the article - Fran Kerr - has no credentials. None, other than she claims to have had acne and cleared it up with diet etc. Not even a "before" picture on her site. Her books? Only available on her site.
Next topic, please.7 -
Low on B vitamins???
Get some marmite..
It's yum and full of iron too hun... It's a yeast extract spread (check it out online)...
B-)
By the way...marmite is the worst.1 -
You lost me at naturopath.
She lost me at "I found this article online"6 -
Eh I have read that our b12 is to far down the colon to be produced on its own therefore we are not using the b12 we produce anyways. But **** I just take a b12 supplement and don't worry about it.1
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Why "please read"?
Was it for the comedic value? :laugh:2 -
Eh I have read that our b12 is to far down the colon to be produced on its own therefore we are not using the b12 we produce anyways. But **** I just take a b12 supplement and don't worry about it.
Dont worry, Humans cant produce B12, we have to ingest it so taking a supplement to top yourself up is fine . It is absorbed in the last part of the small intestine if it is bound to intrinsic factor. The colon is the large intestine, and that is mainly for water resorption. Vitamin K is produced there by our lovely gut flora, but thats it really!0 -
The odds of this being complete BS is pretty high when coming from a naturopath, especially if there are no studies to back this wild assertion.
It doesn't even sound like it could make sense, soaking in water before cooking it in water.
Nah she probably had a deficiency, but it had nothing to do with oats.
She's probably paid by the big weetabix lobby.1 -
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lolz.
The only thing I know about B12 is that when I eat too much nutritional yeast I get a way high dose and my pee is like neon.1 -
I'm on my 60th trip around the sun. Eaten Oatmeal my whole life. Never even heard of soaking my Oatmeal.
My God it's a wonder I'm alive!3 -
Hmmmmm... nope, not gonna do it. Too much hassle and unnecessary.0
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Why did someone necro a 3 year old thread to call BS on the OP?5
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