Most I've ever weighed, Bloated, & Scared......
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On Monday 3/24/13, after several months of over-eating, indulging, & pretty much eating total garbage, I finally made myself feel bad enough to do something about it. What I noticed this time (I'm a cronic on/off dieter)(all or nothing) that was diffrerent beyond the obvious. was that not only had I reached my all time highest weight of 240 lbs. But also that I really felt & looked fat. I mean fat. Most of my clothes had become very tight. I was experiencing shortness of breath especially after eating too much, to the point where I could literally here myself gasping for air. Also, I felt like I could sleep forever even if I had a nap that day. Other feelings include: shame, embarrassment, scared, helpless, powerless, defeated, lesser of a person, etc. I feel as though I know more about dieting and what to eat than most but I consciouly make decisions to not eat what I know is good for me. I've spent hours on the internet reading about healthy foods and the best exercises. Without much action. I always put off today what I can do or start tomorrow. My eating & exercise habits are no different. My Dad has diabetes and weighs 325 pounds. Most of my family is over-weight. I generally hover around 20 lbs over-weight. Right now I'd say I'm 40 lbs. over-weight. I started a new eating & exercise plan but really hope to make this a lifestyle. My fear is that I've done this hundreds of times in my life. Which is where I need help & suggestions. I've never told anyone how I feal & have never blogged or posted anything like this before. HELP.............
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Get rid of your "all or nothing" mentality. Little changes will add up to big results if you keep them up!
Good luck!
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On Monday 3/24/13, after several months of over-eating, indulging, & pretty much eating total garbage, I finally made myself feel bad enough to do something about it. What I noticed this time (I'm a cronic on/off dieter)(all or nothing) that was diffrerent beyond the obvious. was that not only had I reached my all time highest weight of 240 lbs. But also that I really felt & looked fat. I mean fat. Most of my clothes had become very tight. I was experiencing shortness of breath especially after eating too much, to the point where I could literally here myself gasping for air. Also, I felt like I could sleep forever even if I had a nap that day. Other feelings include: shame, embarrassment, scared, helpless, powerless, defeated, lesser of a person, etc. I feel as though I know more about dieting and what to eat than most but I consciouly make decisions to not eat what I know is good for me. I've spent hours on the internet reading about healthy foods and the best exercises. Without much action. I always put off today what I can do or start tomorrow. My eating & exercise habits are no different. My Dad has diabetes and weighs 325 pounds. Most of my family is over-weight. I generally hover around 20 lbs over-weight. Right now I'd say I'm 40 lbs. over-weight. I started a new eating & exercise plan but really hope to make this a lifestyle. My fear is that I've done this hundreds of times in my life. Which is where I need help & suggestions. I've never told anyone how I feal & have never blogged or posted anything like this before. HELP.............
I can tell you from experience - it's the 'all or nothing' attitude which sets a lot of us up to fail. Example - they are donuts in the break room and you have one for breakfast - suddenly the whole day feels like it's been derailed and you're a failure. You say screw it and pig out the rest of the day, hell maybe even the whole week was blown. Ugh...I know of done this before. BUT - if you start logging all the foods and really grasp the idea of calories in v. calories out - you'll realize one donut does not break a 'diet'. It's great to eat super healthy...but honestly life will happen. Just make sure you watch your portions, log everything and stay within your calorie goal. Maybe that cheeseburger at lunch wasn't the best choice but if you're doing what you should be doing the rest of the day it will fit into your calories! The failure is when we don't reward ourselves.
Log every bite accurately and consistently
watch portion size
stay in calorie goal
eat 80% healthy 20% fun foods (rough guideline lol)
drink lot's of water
exercise sensibly. Don't overkill so you burn out and lose interest.
Hang out on MFP - read the success story, build a nice friend base of supportive and motivational people
Except the fact that you'll never be perfect, it will always be a work in progress for all of us
don't be hard on yourself if you had a bad meal, bad day, shake it off and start again
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As others said, "All or nothing" isn't helpful. Relax and go for eating healthy one day at a time. Forgive yourself if you have a "bad day"...just don't give yourself the excuse of giving up because you weren't at 100%. None of us are. Once you begin feeling better and you drop some weight, it helps with the motivation...but you have to take the first step.
And if the tiredness continues, check into sleep apnea. Extra weight can bring this on and you feel drained even after you "think" you slept well all night. Sometimes it goes away once the weight drops.0 -
Wow! Great comments so far! Please help me with a strategy to deal with my "All of Nothing" mentality. I've known that it's bad forever. I just can't seem to defeat that mentality. THANKS....0
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I think consistent logging is a huge key to defeating "all or nothing." You can watch the trends and averages of your food intake instead of only responding to the emotional stuff that happens when you eat something unhealthy or don't exercise. Successful weight loss is about changing your habits, and that takes time. Logging gives you a clear picture of what your habits actually are, and that information gives you the ability to see what things work, and what don't. Without the logging, you have to trust your emotions and memory, both of which are notoriously unreliable.
A good strategy is to set some initial goals that you are confident you can reach. Examples:
I will log every single thing I eat, no matter how I feel about it.
I will do some kind of exercise every day. If this means it's bedtime and I haven't done it, I'll stretch for 20 minutes.
I will drink 8 glasses of water per day.
I will eat a vegetable with every meal.
If I want a snack, I will drink a glass of water first.
Like the others have said, if you try to change everything all at once, or if you think there are only 2 options- "perfect" and "out of control" then you are setting yourself up to fail.
Pick a few things you can do, and prove to yourself that you can make changes. Then pick some more. You can do it!
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"...Log every bite accurately and consistently
watch portion size
stay in calorie goal
eat 80% healthy 20% fun foods (rough guideline lol)
drink lot's of water
exercise sensibly. Don't overkill so you burn out and lose interest.
Hang out on MFP - read the success story, build a nice friend base of supportive and motivational people
Except the fact that you'll never be perfect, it will always be a work in progress for all of us
don't be hard on yourself if you had a bad meal, bad day, shake it off and start again..."
^^^THIS^^^ I would probably say limit the junk food to 10% of calories but since you are a young male and you expect to do a fair bit of exercise, you can probably get away with the higher number. Since you have diabetes in your family, you may want to be pretty careful with your sugar intake. Good luck!0 -
Absolutely what the others have said. Work on the "all or nothing" part. That is the problem. You need to make some real, long-term/permanent changes to have success, but you don't have to go extreme, you don't have to torture yourself and you don't have to give up the things you like. Stop going on diets.
Start off simply. Log your food if you're not already. Log everything. Weigh and measure your food to get the most accurate counts. Have a look at what you're eating and see where you can make small, sustainable changes in order to meet your calorie goal. Set a moderate calorie deficit (ie. I wouldn't set MFP to lose 2 lbs a week at this point - try 1 lb a week for now.) Tweak your diet so that you meet that goal. If it's too hard, change to 0.5 lbs a week. You can always change things later, but slow and steady is best.
Try not to look at foods as "good" or "bad". Don't be over-restrictive. Some people choose to completely revamp their diet overnight and cut out foods or food groups, but imo that's a really bad idea if you're a chronic yo-yo dieter. You want to make changes so small that you hardly notice them, yet big enough to make a difference. Don't cut out your favourite foods otherwise you'll probably soon find that you want to give in/give up/fall off the wagon in order to indulge.
Look at the concept of "cheat days" and whether that would help you. Works for some people, not others. I never had them regularly, I just made sure to eat foods I like every day. For example, I eat chocolate every day and through the week I'll have plenty of pasta, cheese, bread, butter, wine etc. Nothing is off limits, just small enough portions to fit in to my calorie goals.
There is a lot you can do to change your diet over time, but I would take it slowly to start with, and make one or two small changes at a time. I started just aiming to meet my calorie goal and moved onto trying to get more protein each day. Later, I focused on increasing fibre and certain micronutrients. Rome wasn't built in a day though, and you're trying to create a lifestyle you can live with forever, so only make the changes that you can sustain.
Look back at the hundreds of times you've done this before, and look at what made you give up before. Did you get bored of the diet you put yourself on? One thing you might consider is taking regular "diet breaks" - for physical as well as psychological benefits. http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-full-diet-break.html
If you can, get more active and exercise. Log your exercise and eat (at least most of) those calories back. Consider whether strength training is something you're interested in. It's great for helping you to maintain lean mass (eg muscle) as you lose weight).
Try not to get too hung up on the scale. Treat it as a useful tool to measure progress, but not the be-all and end-all. Tape measurements and progress photos can be very helpful, and very motivating when you get to a point where the scale isn't moving as you would want it to.
As for the "all or nothing" thing - if this is a big problem for you, you might want to look into cognitive behavioural therapy. This is something you can do yourself from self-help books and has useful techniques for changing those kind of unhelpful thinking patterns. You say you've always been an all-or-nothing dieter, but it hasn't worked for you up to this point has it? That should be enough motivation to try to do things differently. Food is not the enemy; no one food will make you gain weight or stop you from losing weight. You *can* eat anything in moderation - you may not choose to in the end, but you can. A nutritious, well-balanced diet is a good thing, but one cookie or pizza will not derail you. One day of poor eating will not derail you, any more than one day of good eating will make a fat person thin.
Being overweight doesn't make you a bad person, or less of a person than anyone else. Over-eating doesn't make you a bad person either. Try to work on those feelings of shame and guilt; they may seem appropriate, but they will not help you reach your goals.
You may have days when you feel like you are taking backwards steps, but you just need to make the decision to keep moving forward regardless. If you feel like you've slipped up, just try to look at the bigger picture, forgive yourself, and move on. Right then and there, not "tomorrow", not "next week", right then.0 -
I just started here recently, but what I have changed has made me much happier. First- read the stickies on the general weight loss question forum. I recorded and measured all of my food with no changes for a week. I saw so much and started to learn about food. Instead of "good" or "bad"- I think how it will fit in my calories (and fat/carb/protein) and ask "do I want to it?" Stopping and thinking about your food as science vs having a moral value really helps with all or nothing. It also helped with shame eating. If I know I have the calories for a cookie- I eat it without any guilt. I control the food not vice versa.0
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I think we might be twins!!!
I've done the same thing as you all my life, but I'm the only one in my immediate family with a weight issue. My grandfather was diabetic, and I have a pre-diabetic condition.
Knowing what to do and being motivated to do something are two different things. My biggest recommendations would be to log everything - become the master of food journaling. Also, find a nutritionist. They know things that are helpful to people losing weight. One told me to focus on lean healthy proteins, and the fats/carbs will take care of themselves. I've found that to be pretty accurate. One other thing would be to find a therapist/counselor - preferably one who understands the journey you're on.
Those are the things that have probably helped me the most on my journey, and I'm just over 1/2 way there (I have about 112 more that I want to lose).0 -
Something I learned is that the "horrible" feelings that you describe can be very comforting in certain situations. Take a good, hard look at your life. You might be eliciting those feelings on purpose to distract you from something that is much harder to deal with.
I was. (it had to do with my son's meth problem)0 -
Start with little changes - tracking how far you walk and increase from there. Adjust how much water you are drinking. DO things you know you will have success at and then start on some of the harder things - eating less, leaving the table before you are "too full".
Just stick with it. What state and city are you in? Find people to walk with and talk with about your weight loss journey - I have found this to be very helpful.
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This is one of the best advice threads I have read so far, you people are nailing it.
LOG EVERY DAY!!! and be completely honest. It makes you accountable.
DO NOT DIET!!! if you can't do it for the rest of your life, find a way (substitute) that you can do it the rest of your life. For example, I replaced pop with water in a bottle (can't stand it in a glass, and after 6 months I now prefer water - who would of thunk!) I replaced chips with microwaved sliced potato chips with popcorn seasoning. I am continually trying to replace bad with better. Even if better is not great.
It only takes a few pounds lost to start to feel the momentum!0 -
The posters above have already covered most of what I would say. I struggle with binge eating too. What I found really helpful was reading "Salt Sugar Fat: How the Food Giants Hooked Us" by Michael Moss. It helped me see how absolutely revolting processed food is and how aware the people making it are of the effects on health and eating behaviors - it's literally engineered so that you don't get full.
Perfection will always be a recipe for failure. All that's necessary is to try and then to evaluate what you could do better. Little steps. Keep in mind that eating a donut and then binging for the rest of the day is kind of like accidentally dropping your phone and then smashing it to smithereens.
Best of luck. You've got this - you just need to take it a step at a time.0 -
Wow! Great comments so far! Please help me with a strategy to deal with my "All of Nothing" mentality. I've known that it's bad forever. I just can't seem to defeat that mentality. THANKS....
It took you months and *years* to gain this weight.
It's going to take months and years to lose the weight. And that means your progress will be slow. But as long as you're still trying, you're still making progress.
You only fail when you quit trying.0 -
You only fail when you quit trying.
Did you get that from somewhere? I love that quote!0
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