Low carb diet plan

2»

Replies

  • albertabeefy
    albertabeefy Posts: 1,169 Member
    It is not a good idea to do any "Low Carb Diet Plan", there are so many complications in going this route. Your brain needs carbohydrates to function. They also provide energy and help you to feel more satiated.
    No, your brain doesn't need carbohydrate. There is NO physiological need for carbohydrate in the human body. None. I'm not sure WHERE you get your information from, but it's not based in physiology or biochemistry.

    And no, carbs don't make you feel more satiated - protein and fat do.
    There is a definite mood association with restricting them.
    In some people this is true. Not in most. In fact, many studies show improved mood and cognitive function on low-carb ketogenic diets.
    Also, there can be long term health cons from restricting carbs. Typical "Low Carb" diets encourage the consumption of foods which tend to be higher in fats and proteins. If you get too much protein, your kidneys have to work harder to eliminate the extra waste products.
    Sorry, this is very outdated thinking and not based in science. Only those who already have impaired kidney function need worry about protein.
    It can also cause a condition called "Ketosis" which is the buildup of acidic substances that the kidneys fail to eliminate.
    Ketosis is marked by the presence of ketones, yup. And it's healthy and has been used as a medical treatment for both epilepsy and diabetes for over a century with NO medical contraindications. It is NOT an acidic condition in the body - that's ketoacidosis which is a very different biochemical state from ketosis.
    Also, eating all of those saturated fats can cause the usual ailments they are associated with later in life such as Heart Disease, plaque in the arteries and blood pressure issues. You will also feel very fatigued and not have as much energy for workouts which are key to weight loss.
    There is no evidence that saturated fat causes heart disease. Certain saturated fats, such as medium-chain triglycerides are actually very beneficial to cardiovascular health.

    You're obviously buying into the "lipid hypothesis" with decades old, has never been fact, is outdated and never proven after decades of study and billions in research. In fact, most research trying to prove it has dis-proven it.

    Refined carbohydrate is strongly linked to impaired cardiovascular health.

    I can list dozens of randomized controlled trials showing a low-carb ketogenic diet is superior to ANY other diet (including low-fat) for weight-loss, muscle-retention, glycemic control and ALL indicators of cardiovascular health. There are NO studies showing anything different, in point of fact.
  • Haltermania
    Haltermania Posts: 288 Member
    Also...just as a side note, reviewed your diary and was curious... do you really eat mac n cheese every single day? :smile:

    For this week i have since they were on sale 10 for $10 :ohwell: and since i havent gone to the store yet to get other "better" choices i have stuck with that lol
  • Brookesworld104
    Brookesworld104 Posts: 32 Member
    It is not a good idea to do any "Low Carb Diet Plan", there are so many complications in going this route. Your brain needs carbohydrates to function. They also provide energy and help you to feel more satiated.
    No, your brain doesn't need carbohydrate. There is NO physiological need for carbohydrate in the human body. None. I'm not sure WHERE you get your information from, but it's not based in physiology or biochemistry.

    And no, carbs don't make you feel more satiated - protein and fat do.
    There is a definite mood association with restricting them.
    In some people this is true. Not in most. In fact, many studies show improved mood and cognitive function on low-carb ketogenic diets.
    Also, there can be long term health cons from restricting carbs. Typical "Low Carb" diets encourage the consumption of foods which tend to be higher in fats and proteins. If you get too much protein, your kidneys have to work harder to eliminate the extra waste products.
    Sorry, this is very outdated thinking and not based in science. Only those who already have impaired kidney function need worry about protein.
    It can also cause a condition called "Ketosis" which is the buildup of acidic substances that the kidneys fail to eliminate.
    Ketosis is marked by the presence of ketones, yup. And it's healthy and has been used as a medical treatment for both epilepsy and diabetes for over a century with NO medical contraindications. It is NOT an acidic condition in the body - that's ketoacidosis which is a very different biochemical state from ketosis.
    Also, eating all of those saturated fats can cause the usual ailments they are associated with later in life such as Heart Disease, plaque in the arteries and blood pressure issues. You will also feel very fatigued and not have as much energy for workouts which are key to weight loss.
    There is no evidence that saturated fat causes heart disease. Certain saturated fats, such as medium-chain triglycerides are actually very beneficial to cardiovascular health.

    You're obviously buying into the "lipid hypothesis" with decades old, has never been fact, is outdated and never proven after decades of study and billions in research. In fact, most research trying to prove it has dis-proven it.

    Refined carbohydrate is strongly linked to impaired cardiovascular health.

    I can list dozens of randomized controlled trials showing a low-carb ketogenic diet is superior to ANY other diet (including low-fat) for weight-loss, muscle-retention, glycemic control and ALL indicators of cardiovascular health. There are NO studies showing anything different, in point of fact.

    Uhmmmmm you took significant pains in dissecting my advice... I still stand by it 100%. It is not healthy to restrict carbs and coming from a family with Hereditary Heart Disease and also having worked for a Cardiologist, I stand by my Heart Disease Statement as well. And yes brain funciton is dependent on Carbohydrates and we are not talking about simple carbs but complex. Also, proteins do not make you feel satiated, they are more filling and will last longer in staving off hunger but the perception of being satiated comes from the consumption of carbs. I will have to agree to disagree with you
  • sunnyskys2013
    sunnyskys2013 Posts: 159 Member
    It is not a good idea to do any "Low Carb Diet Plan", there are so many complications in going this route. Your brain needs carbohydrates to function. They also provide energy and help you to feel more satiated.
    No, your brain doesn't need carbohydrate. There is NO physiological need for carbohydrate in the human body. None. I'm not sure WHERE you get your information from, but it's not based in physiology or biochemistry.

    And no, carbs don't make you feel more satiated - protein and fat do.
    There is a definite mood association with restricting them.
    In some people this is true. Not in most. In fact, many studies show improved mood and cognitive function on low-carb ketogenic diets.
    Also, there can be long term health cons from restricting carbs. Typical "Low Carb" diets encourage the consumption of foods which tend to be higher in fats and proteins. If you get too much protein, your kidneys have to work harder to eliminate the extra waste products.
    Sorry, this is very outdated thinking and not based in science. Only those who already have impaired kidney function need worry about protein.
    It can also cause a condition called "Ketosis" which is the buildup of acidic substances that the kidneys fail to eliminate.
    Ketosis is marked by the presence of ketones, yup. And it's healthy and has been used as a medical treatment for both epilepsy and diabetes for over a century with NO medical contraindications. It is NOT an acidic condition in the body - that's ketoacidosis which is a very different biochemical state from ketosis.
    Also, eating all of those saturated fats can cause the usual ailments they are associated with later in life such as Heart Disease, plaque in the arteries and blood pressure issues. You will also feel very fatigued and not have as much energy for workouts which are key to weight loss.
    There is no evidence that saturated fat causes heart disease. Certain saturated fats, such as medium-chain triglycerides are actually very beneficial to cardiovascular health.

    You're obviously buying into the "lipid hypothesis" with decades old, has never been fact, is outdated and never proven after decades of study and billions in research. In fact, most research trying to prove it has dis-proven it.

    Refined carbohydrate is strongly linked to impaired cardiovascular health.

    I can list dozens of randomized controlled trials showing a low-carb ketogenic diet is superior to ANY other diet (including low-fat) for weight-loss, muscle-retention, glycemic control and ALL indicators of cardiovascular health. There are NO studies showing anything different, in point of fact.

    Uhmmmmm you took significant pains in dissecting my advice... I still stand by it 100%. It is not healthy to restrict carbs and coming from a family with Hereditary Heart Disease and also having worked for a Cardiologist, I stand by my Heart Disease Statement as well. And yes brain funciton is dependent on Carbohydrates and we are not talking about simple carbs but complex. Also, proteins do not make you feel satiated, they are more filling and will last longer in staving off hunger but the perception of being satiated comes from the consumption of carbs. I will have to agree to disagree with you

    I think you really need to do a little more research.
  • JaceyMarieS
    JaceyMarieS Posts: 692 Member
    Also, eating all of those saturated fats can cause the usual ailments they are associated with later in life such as Heart Disease, plaque in the arteries and blood pressure issues. You will also feel very fatigued and not have as much energy for workouts which are key to weight loss.
    There is no evidence that saturated fat causes heart disease. Certain saturated fats, such as medium-chain triglycerides are actually very beneficial to cardiovascular health.

    You're obviously buying into the "lipid hypothesis" with decades old, has never been fact, is outdated and never proven after decades of study and billions in research. In fact, most research trying to prove it has dis-proven it.

    Refined carbohydrate is strongly linked to impaired cardiovascular health.

    I can list dozens of randomized controlled trials showing a low-carb ketogenic diet is superior to ANY other diet (including low-fat) for weight-loss, muscle-retention, glycemic control and ALL indicators of cardiovascular health. There are NO studies showing anything different, in point of fact.

    Well said.

    Carbohydrates are the macro-nutrient I choose to strict limit. I am diabetic, have celiac sprue and Hashimoto's thyroiditis. Excessive carbs are certainly NOT my friend.

    Brain function is dependent on glucose, not carbohydrates. I get all the carbs I "need" from vegetables, seeds/nuts and some dairy. I've eliminated grains (see the diabetes/hypothyroidism/celiac trifecta above), strictly limit fruit and legumes and enjoy more fat than I ever thought wise (from coconut products, olive oil, olives and nuts mainly)

    My lipid panel is now just about perfect - my lastest bloodwork was done in August.
    Your Total Cholesterol of 161 is DESIRABLE
    Your LDL of 89 is OPTIMAL
    Your HDL of 53 is NORMAL
    Your Triglyceride level of 95 is NORMAL
    Your Total Cholesterol/HDL ratio is: 3.04 - (preferably under 5.0, ideally under 3.5) IDEAL
    Your HDL/LDL ratio is: 0.596 - (preferably over 0.3, ideally over 0.4) IDEAL
    Your triglycerides/HDL ratio is: 1.792 - (preferably under 4, ideally under 2)

    My blood glucose is now in the normal range - last A1c (also in August) was 5.2

    Fatigue is a thing of the past. I do an hour of cardio 6-7x/week and weight train 2x/week.

    There aren't "so many complications in going this route"; in fact, I've eliminated many of the risks of serious complications by choosing a low-carb lifestyle.
  • albertabeefy
    albertabeefy Posts: 1,169 Member
    Uhmmmmm you took significant pains in dissecting my advice... I still stand by it 100%. It is not healthy to restrict carbs and coming from a family with Hereditary Heart Disease and also having worked for a Cardiologist, I stand by my Heart Disease Statement as well. And yes brain funciton is dependent on Carbohydrates and we are not talking about simple carbs but complex. Also, proteins do not make you feel satiated, they are more filling and will last longer in staving off hunger but the perception of being satiated comes from the consumption of carbs. I will have to agree to disagree with you
    You can stand by your advice 100%, however it is STILL wrong.

    As for having worked for a cardiologist, you should be advised he was taught wrong, and they're STILL teaching the lipid hypothesis in medical school, even though it's incorrect.

    Any cardiologist that invests time into the research, however, comes to the same conclusions as I have. Cardiologists such as William Davis, MD. Eric Westman, MD, and more. They will readily admit everything they were taught in medical school in regards to the lipid-hypothesis is incorrect according to ALL scientific research.

    And NO, brain function is not now and never has been dependent upon carbohydrates. Crack open a biochemistry book. Even though my biochemistry courses were over 20 years ago I know that.
  • albertabeefy
    albertabeefy Posts: 1,169 Member
    Brain function is dependent on glucose, not carbohydrates.
    Which even with ZERO carbohydrate intake the body can get all it needs from gluconeogenesis. The brain also fuels itself via ketones - and considerable research shows it performs BETTER with ketones than with glucose.
    I get all the carbs I "need" from vegetables, seeds/nuts and some dairy. I've eliminated grains (see the diabetes/hypothyroidism/celiac trifecta above), strictly limit fruit and legumes and enjoy more fat than I ever thought wise (from coconut products, olive oil, olives and nuts mainly)
    Most people don't realize how many nutrients is available in as little as 20g of leafy greens or other non-starchy veggies. And 20g of leafy greens is like 6 full cups ...
    My lipid panel is now just about perfect - my lastest bloodwork was done in August.
    Your Total Cholesterol of 161 is DESIRABLE
    Your LDL of 89 is OPTIMAL
    Your HDL of 53 is NORMAL
    Your Triglyceride level of 95 is NORMAL
    Your Total Cholesterol/HDL ratio is: 3.04 - (preferably under 5.0, ideally under 3.5) IDEAL
    Your HDL/LDL ratio is: 0.596 - (preferably over 0.3, ideally over 0.4) IDEAL
    Your triglycerides/HDL ratio is: 1.792 - (preferably under 4, ideally under 2)

    My blood glucose is now in the normal range - last A1c (also in August) was 5.2

    Fatigue is a thing of the past. I do an hour of cardio 6-7x/week and weight train 2x/week.

    There aren't "so many complications in going this route"; in fact, I've eliminated many of the risks of serious complications by choosing a low-carb lifestyle.
    Great numbers, good for you! Mine almost mirror yours. (In fact, my last HbA1c was also 5.2% ... I was diagnosed at 12.2% so it's an amazing difference for not being on insulin or medication.)

    I'd put my or your numbers up against any low-fat advocate any day of the week. The truth is that low-carbohydrate ketogenic diets are superior to any low-fat (or any other diet) for weight-loss, glycemic control, lean-mass retention, cholesterol ratio (HDL:LDL) and triglycerides in dozens upon dozens of randomized controlled trials.
  • LauraDotts
    LauraDotts Posts: 732 Member
    Brain function is dependent on glucose, not carbohydrates.
    Which even with ZERO carbohydrate intake the body can get all it needs from gluconeogenesis. The brain also fuels itself via ketones - and considerable research shows it performs BETTER with ketones than with glucose.
    I get all the carbs I "need" from vegetables, seeds/nuts and some dairy. I've eliminated grains (see the diabetes/hypothyroidism/celiac trifecta above), strictly limit fruit and legumes and enjoy more fat than I ever thought wise (from coconut products, olive oil, olives and nuts mainly)
    Most people don't realize how many nutrients is available in as little as 20g of leafy greens or other non-starchy veggies. And 20g of leafy greens is like 6 full cups ...
    My lipid panel is now just about perfect - my lastest bloodwork was done in August.
    Your Total Cholesterol of 161 is DESIRABLE
    Your LDL of 89 is OPTIMAL
    Your HDL of 53 is NORMAL
    Your Triglyceride level of 95 is NORMAL
    Your Total Cholesterol/HDL ratio is: 3.04 - (preferably under 5.0, ideally under 3.5) IDEAL
    Your HDL/LDL ratio is: 0.596 - (preferably over 0.3, ideally over 0.4) IDEAL
    Your triglycerides/HDL ratio is: 1.792 - (preferably under 4, ideally under 2)

    My blood glucose is now in the normal range - last A1c (also in August) was 5.2

    Fatigue is a thing of the past. I do an hour of cardio 6-7x/week and weight train 2x/week.

    There aren't "so many complications in going this route"; in fact, I've eliminated many of the risks of serious complications by choosing a low-carb lifestyle.
    Great numbers, good for you! Mine almost mirror yours. (In fact, my last HbA1c was also 5.2% ... I was diagnosed at 12.2% so it's an amazing difference for not being on insulin or medication.)

    I'd put my or your numbers up against any low-fat advocate any day of the week. The truth is that low-carbohydrate ketogenic diets are superior to any low-fat (or any other diet) for weight-loss, glycemic control, lean-mass retention, cholesterol ratio (HDL:LDL) and triglycerides in dozens upon dozens of randomized controlled trials.
    QFT.

    I've been in ketosis for almost a year. I average 20 net grams of carbs a day. My brain functions just fine. A whole lot of other functions have improved dramatically.
  • RunForChai
    RunForChai Posts: 238 Member
    Hi,

    I eat about half the suggested carb on MFP. I am very athletic and try to get my calories from natural, less-processed foods.
    I don't have a specific diet plan to suggest but can tell you that cutting:
    *wheat
    *potatoes
    *corn

    from my diet has made me feel much better, healthier and stronger.

    I let myself have some of those items as a treat once in a big, big while.

    Everyone has their favorite diet---experiment and find what works for you.

    Good luck!
  • assymcgee
    assymcgee Posts: 3 Member
    I didn't read through all of the replies, but i agree with the posters who suggested going paleo or primal. to kick it off, look into The Whole30. It's a 30 day extreme paleo challenge. after the 30 days you re-evaluate how you feel and go from there. i'm just finishing my 30 days and i can say that i feel so much better, I will be continuing on a mainly primal diet, just not so strict. I lost 8 pounds by eating more good fats, but cutting garbage foods.
  • lstok873
    lstok873 Posts: 57 Member
    I'm becoming an Insanity junkie, and I agree with cutting the white breads and white potatos. I eat tons of whole wheat wraps, noodles, bread, brown rice and sweet potatoes. I also see that you eat 3 times a day....ever consider upping it to 5 times? It's worked miracles for me, I never get hungry enough to eat sides (other than fruit, rice, maybe a little pasta), but can still work in some chocolate, etc.. and still lose weight.
  • MercenaryNoetic26
    MercenaryNoetic26 Posts: 2,747 Member
    How about just low GI/GL foods with the occasional high GL. If you like to eat everything. I was reading about it and found that I was eating that way anyway. Which explains my decent health for most of my life. Could be because my mom is diabetic and I just picked up her eating and her foods, lol. Either way, it's super EASY and healthy.
  • highervibes
    highervibes Posts: 2,219 Member
    It is not a good idea to do any "Low Carb Diet Plan", there are so many complications in going this route. Your brain needs carbohydrates to function. They also provide energy and help you to feel more satiated.
    There is a definite mood association with restricting them.
    Also, there can be long term health cons from restricting carbs. Typical "Low Carb" diets encourage the consumption of foods which tend to be higher in fats and proteins. If you get too much protein, your kidneys have to work harder to eliminate the extra waste products. It can also cause a condition called "Ketosis" which is the buildup of acidic substances that the kidneys fail to eliminate.
    Also, eating all of those saturated fats can cause the usual ailments they are associated with later in life such as Heart Disease, plaque in the arteries and blood pressure issues. You will also feel very fatigued and not have as much energy for workouts which are key to weight loss.
    When you are attempting to build muscle, upping your protein is always helpful and usually a good idea, but you should also balance with complex carbohydrates. Any "diet" that says anything should be eliminated is not only dangerous and ineffective, but could never be followed long term. And if you research anyone who has followed this type of program, while they may have success up front, the weight is almost always re-gained and sometimes in excess once normal habits return. I would strongly encourage you to reconsider this decision. If you need more guidance on nutrition, I would be happy to message you offline.

    My jaw is just left hanging from all the misinformation in this post. OP, just skip past this one.
  • highervibes
    highervibes Posts: 2,219 Member
    To answer your original post, I would suggest you check out www.marksdailyapple.com
  • misssiri
    misssiri Posts: 335 Member
    OP, find a way of eating that works for YOU and that YOU can stick with period. You will find evidence for and against every diet out there. Low carb, low fat, high fat, raw, vegan, paleo, and so on and so forth. Just find what works for you. You don't need to cut any food group out to reach your goals unless you have an intolerance or a medical reason for doing so. In the long run it will be more beneficial to you to find the way of eating that you are happy to do long term. Consistency is the best tool to reach our fitness goals IMO. Just make sure you aren't under eating.
  • highervibes
    highervibes Posts: 2,219 Member
    OP, find a way of eating that works for YOU and that YOU can stick with period. You will find evidence for and against every diet out there. Low carb, low fat, high fat, raw, vegan, paleo, and so on and so forth. Just find what works for you. You don't need to cut any food group out to reach your goals unless you have an intolerance or a medical reason for doing so. In the long run it will be more beneficial to you to find the way of eating that you are happy to do long term. Consistency is the best tool to reach our fitness goals IMO. Just make sure you aren't under eating.

    This is sage advice. Whether you are restricting carbs, or restricting calories, returning to your 'old" ways of eating will derail both plans. I PERSONALLY find that eating carbs that come from bread or cereal (yes, even whole grains) trigger cravings for more, so I choose to restrict those types of carbs. It's all about setting yourself up to succeed IN THE LONG RUN. I can more readily give up carbs and sugar vs fat, and so that's why I follow a low carb plan. The fat curbs cravings, and it's good for my heart. Win.
  • missylee117
    missylee117 Posts: 66 Member
    Try a recipe club, lots of things on there and also can look for diabetic cooking too, we have to watch our carbs daily so learning how much carbs we eat is a big thing. I love Food.com and Justapinch recipes