PISSED ABOUT CALS BURNED!
lisacsmith16
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Ok folks.... new to this diet and exercise thing, but I have lost 2.8 pounds in 7 days... However, I was reading a lot about calories burned during exercise and man do I feel CONFUSED!!! Below is the plan I follow:( Please review and any comments you can give will be wonderful!)
I am sticking to my 1200 cal per day that MFP set me up on.
wake up 8:30 am
Body by VI shake in the am after my morning coffee.(I track every calorie I eat on MFP)
Body By Vi Shake about 1 pm
Snack of apple or vegs about 2:30 or 3pm
Dinner : Salad lean chicken fresh veg ect.. 1200 cals per day with shakes and meals and snacks...
Exercise...
30 min walking 3mph with a 7% incline (treadmill says I burn 334 cals...BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT research online says I am only burning 127.........Now...
334
_127
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207 cals??????????? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can I track the REAL CALS BURNED?????????? I try not to eat my excercise cals but that is a HUGE difference!!!!!!!
I am sticking to my 1200 cal per day that MFP set me up on.
wake up 8:30 am
Body by VI shake in the am after my morning coffee.(I track every calorie I eat on MFP)
Body By Vi Shake about 1 pm
Snack of apple or vegs about 2:30 or 3pm
Dinner : Salad lean chicken fresh veg ect.. 1200 cals per day with shakes and meals and snacks...
Exercise...
30 min walking 3mph with a 7% incline (treadmill says I burn 334 cals...BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT research online says I am only burning 127.........Now...
334
_127
_____
207 cals??????????? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can I track the REAL CALS BURNED?????????? I try not to eat my excercise cals but that is a HUGE difference!!!!!!!
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You need a heart rate monitor to see actual calories burned. Everything else is just an estimate.0
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I'd stick with your online research if it's re-occurring as a lower number.
A HRM is a great idea, but until then go with the majority which if you do research properly, should be research. Also check what MFP says, people say it's not that accurate but I've found it is for my running calories burned.
I wouldn't trust a treadmill, especially one that doesn't have heart rate sensors.0 -
Ok folks.... new to this diet and exercise thing, but I have lost 2.8 pounds in 7 days... However, I was reading a lot about calories burned during exercise and man do I feel CONFUSED!!! Below is the plan I follow:( Please review and any comments you can give will be wonderful!)
I am sticking to my 1200 cal per day that MFP set me up on.
wake up 8:30 am
Body by VI shake in the am after my morning coffee.(I track every calorie I eat on MFP)
Body By Vi Shake about 1 pm
Snack of apple or vegs about 2:30 or 3pm
Dinner : Salad lean chicken fresh veg ect.. 1200 cals per day with shakes and meals and snacks...
Exercise...
30 min walking 3mph with a 7% incline (treadmill says I burn 334 cals...BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT research online says I am only burning 127.........Now...
334
_127
_____
207 cals??????????? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can I track the REAL CALS BURNED?????????? I try not to eat my excercise cals but that is a HUGE difference!!!!!!!
I would say neither is correct, they are both just estimates. I do find that the actaul treadmill is usually closer than MFP though, if you enter your age and weight. Also you need to eat more food, try cutting out one of the shakes.
Edit: I guess it shouldn't matter since you aren't eating them back anyways.0 -
Ok folks.... new to this diet and exercise thing, but I have lost 2.8 pounds in 7 days... However, I was reading a lot about calories burned during exercise and man do I feel CONFUSED!!! Below is the plan I follow:( Please review and any comments you can give will be wonderful!)
I am sticking to my 1200 cal per day that MFP set me up on.
wake up 8:30 am
Body by VI shake in the am after my morning coffee.(I track every calorie I eat on MFP)
Body By Vi Shake about 1 pm
Snack of apple or vegs about 2:30 or 3pm
Dinner : Salad lean chicken fresh veg ect.. 1200 cals per day with shakes and meals and snacks...
Exercise...
30 min walking 3mph with a 7% incline (treadmill says I burn 334 cals...BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT research online says I am only burning 127.........Now...
334
_127
_____
207 cals??????????? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can I track the REAL CALS BURNED?????????? I try not to eat my excercise cals but that is a HUGE difference!!!!!!!
I would say neither is correct, they are both just estimates. I do find that the actaul treadmill is usually closer than MFP though, if you enter your age and weight. Also you need to eat more food, try cutting out one of the shakes.
Edit: I guess it shouldn't matter since you aren't eating them back anyways.
Before I started this journey I would never eat breakfast or lunch.. about 3pm I would be hungry and I would eat something stupid like chips or something bad for me... then I would have a huge diner most of the time 2 helpings. Everything made was high fat and cals.. real butter, real cream ect ect ect.. COMFORT FOODS... Then I would have a HUGE BOWL of cerial or something.... Now I am having a shake for breakfast shank for lunch and I am FULL and have a lot of energy. HEALTHY snacks and a good diner. snacks are fruit or veg or popcorn NO BUTTER..............0 -
HRM are not an accurate way to measure calories burned. I suggest getting a BodyBugg (I have a BodyMedia FIT). They are over 90% accurate and their program syncs up with MFP0
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Hi
An HRM will be the most accurate measurement of your exercise, one with a chest strap. Polar FT4 or FT7 are very popular and an excellent product.
Also, MFP sets up the 'standard' 1200 for almost everyone and you should really go to an accurate tracker such as Scooby, FitnessFrog or Fat To Fit radio to properly gauge what your cal intake should be. With the 1200 you should be eating back your exercise calories. Find out what your TDEE is and BMR. Scooby will give you many options based on your activity level and deficit.
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I actually get very similar results on the treadmill and MFP - do you enter your weight on the treadmill when you start? I used to get whacky numbers when I first started out, then I realised that the automatic weight setting was 10kg heavier than me.
I eat back all my exercise calories using MFP estimates and still lose weight as planned, so for me they seem to be reasonably accurate. Not everyone is the same though, a HRM is the only sure way to get an accurate number.
I would also encourage you to eat back at least some of your exercise calories, if you are only eating at 1200 and don't eat them back, you are going to be netting 1000 or less, that is probably not going to be sustainable for you long term.0 -
Particularly if you are only eating 1200 calories, you absolutely need to eat back your exercise cals. If you don't than any day that you exercise you will end up well under 1200 and your body will not have the energy it needs to function, get your muscles repaired, and get that weight off.
As for the accurate estimate, as mentioned the most direct method is with a heart rate monitor. If you don't have that, you need to assess the treadmill. Does it have you punch in your weight/height/sex or age? If it does, than it's reading will be accurate. If it doesn't, it may be over estimating calories burned by calculating off an "average" generic body size(like say a 160 pound guy or something) so in that case your research would be more fitting.0 -
100cal per mile.
30 mins @ mph is 1.5 miles
so I'd say 150 +/- a few is good0 -
I really don't care about calories burned during exercise but I will drop in to say that, with 28 pounds to lose 1200 cals per day seems low and if you're replacing 60% of your food with Body by Vi shakes you're not really going about this weight loss thing in the most effective manner.
You can eat real food and you can eat more calories to lose the weight you want.0 -
The 127 burn number sounds about right. You don't burn calories very quickly while walking, especially at only 3mph.
IMO, eat more real food, shakes can be a nice SUPPLEMENT if you need more protein but I think you will find better success by eating real food. Not that that was your question, but I feel obligated to be annoying today.0 -
100cal per mile.
30 mins @ mph is 1.5 miles
so I'd say 150 +/- a few is good
I think a 7 incline probably adds a decent amount. I would guess it is closer to 200-225.0 -
Just an FYI, you don't need a "burn"...there is a massive calorie deficit from your maintenance level of calories in that 1,200 number...seriously, do you think that's your maintenance...birds maintain on more than that. Also...eat back your exercise calories...or don't, I'm tired of caring about you crazy women who love starving your bodies. Enjoy the nice long plateau and other issues that ultimately arise from basically having an eating disorder.0
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If you're not eating them back......why dies it matter?
It's an estimate. Some machines are better estimates than others, but even a Heart rate monitor is only an estimate.0 -
You need a heart rate monitor.
Additionally, stop wasting calories on shakes and try eating real food. That way when you stop drinking shakes you know what the heck you are doing.0 -
Everything is an estimate.
From what I hears, the treadmill readings seem to be the farthest off, followed my MFPs readings. (Though, I have no problems with it)
The most accurate reading would be done with an HeartRate Monitor.
Also you want to be eating those calories back.
Because, eating 1,200 calories, then burning, say 300 leaves your body with only 900 calories to do things like breathing and heart pumping and that is not enough.
You'll feel tired or sick or wore out or all three.
And you'll eventually plateau.0 -
Just an FYI, you don't need a "burn"...there is a massive calorie deficit from your maintenance level of calories in that 1,200 number...seriously, do you think that's your maintenance...birds maintain on more than that. Also...eat back your exercise calories...or don't, I'm tired of caring about you crazy women who love starving your bodies. Enjoy the nice long plateau and other issues that ultimately arise from basically having an eating disorder.
True story.0 -
I use a HRM, Polar FT4 and love it. I too was guessing before I got my HRM. I found that my calories burned were off before the HRM. I'm doing Insanity and they tell you to never eat below 1300 calories no matter what so I try not to go below that but once and awhile I do. On average I don't eat back my exercise calories either because if I do then my weight seems to just hold. I do eat a few back like maybe 100 or so. It will all depend on you and what works, basically trial and error.
The other thing with you is you don't have that much to loose which I hear is harder to take off then where I'm at.
Good luck and add me if you would like another friend.0 -
I find treadmills to give consistently higher numbers than MFP and MFP to give consistently higher numbers than my HRM, which typically matches us almost straight on with my Body MediaFit (when I was wearing it).
Remember that treadmills are a general calculation that, at most, take your age and weight into effect for the number it spits out. But it has nothing to do with the person actually on it. If you were to turn on a treadmill, enter your age and weight, set the speed and incline, then sit next to it and read a book for 30 minutes, the treadmill would give you the same number as if you were on it. So how accurate do you really think it is for you?
The best reading I ever got on a treadmill was one that actually synced up directly with my HRM. It wasn't the crazily inflated numbers I normally got, but it was still higher by a fair amount. And that's because even though I'd added the additional factor of my heart rate to the age and weight, it still didn't know if I was male or female. And, being female, I'm going to burn less than a male with my same stats and heart rate. So the public designed for the general public on the treadmill was higher than it should be for me and, most likely, would have been lower for a guy.0 -
Please save yourself some time, stress, and hunger and go to Fat To Fit Radio. com and punch in the numbers it asks for and find out how many calories you really should be eating. You will find it is more than you think and eating MORE will help you to lose MORE weight at a good pace and SAFELY. I am just really learning this and accepting it myself. I was doing the 1200 calorie a day thing, working out lots, and STARVING all of the time. Not necessary, punishing, and futile. Not eating enough will HINDER your weight loss. I know that eating more is a scary proposition and I myself am petrified of upping my calories, but if you do the research you will find that it is the best way to lose weight and be healthy. Good luck!!0
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The 127 burn number sounds about right. You don't burn calories very quickly while walking, especially at only 3mph.
IMO, eat more real food, shakes can be a nice SUPPLEMENT if you need more protein but I think you will find better success by eating real food. Not that that was your question, but I feel obligated to be annoying today.
127 sounds WAAAAAY off to me. Maybe for someone ~100-120 pounds it would be closer to accurate.0 -
Just an FYI, you don't need a "burn"...there is a massive calorie deficit from your maintenance level of calories in that 1,200 number...seriously, do you think that's your maintenance...birds maintain on more than that. Also...eat back your exercise calories...or don't, I'm tired of caring about you crazy women who love starving your bodies. Enjoy the nice long plateau and other issues that ultimately arise from basically having an eating disorder.
WOW........How dare you be so NASTY to someone who was just asking a question... as far as calling me crazy, who loves to starve my body...... I am just using the cals that this page told me to use... was unsure about all the cals burned. And you have to be nasty????? You should be real proud of yourself!0 -
Exercise is a good way to improve your health and fitness, but it is a bad way to lose weight. Your body is just too efficient, so your primary focus should be on calories consumed.0
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Exercise is a good way to improve your health and fitness, but it is a bad way to lose weight. Your body is just too efficient, so your primary focus should be on calories consumed.
I personally have to do both. Exercising helps reduce my appetite significantly. If I haven't worked out for a couple of days, I find myself hungry a lot more. I would not be losing weight consistently if I didn't exercise as much as I do.0 -
If you're not eating them back......why dies it matter?
It's an estimate. Some machines are better estimates than others, but even a Heart rate monitor is only an estimate.
The voice of good reason.
The only true monitor is the tape measure and maybe a cheap pair of fat calipers. HRMs are no more accurate than MFP guesstimates for calorie readouts.0 -
Just an FYI, you don't need a "burn"...there is a massive calorie deficit from your maintenance level of calories in that 1,200 number...seriously, do you think that's your maintenance...birds maintain on more than that. Also...eat back your exercise calories...or don't, I'm tired of caring about you crazy women who love starving your bodies. Enjoy the nice long plateau and other issues that ultimately arise from basically having an eating disorder.
WOW........How dare you be so NASTY to someone who was just asking a question... as far as calling me crazy, who loves to starve my body...... I am just using the cals that this page told me to use... was unsure about all the cals burned. And you have to be nasty????? You should be real proud of yourself!
I do dare, because there are about a million of you on MFP doing the same thing...haven't read any of the stickies and don't understand how this tool works even though it is well spelled out. 1,200 calories net is your goal...that would be net of exercise...that would mean that you eat your exercise calories back to fuel that activity...that would be because MFP considers exercise "extra" activity when calculating your calorie goal. MFP uses your NEAT, not your TDEE. You will note that MFP ups that calorie goal when you log exercise...hmmmm...wonder why that is. Maybe because it's a goal...a goal is something to be achieved. Start achieving your goals.
Sorry you're mad...but I'm glad I got your attention. I don't really believe in sugar coating things when people are doing potential harm to their body that can easily be avoided by simply understanding how to use a specific tool.0 -
I am just using the cals that this page told me to use... was unsure about all the cals burned.
MFP is set up such that you get the minimum calories you can safely consume. When peple are telling you that you shoud 'eat your calories back' they are right. If you are set for 1200/day that means on a sedentary day and when you work out you'll need to fuel your body. And you can only do that confidently when you have an accurate reflection of what you burned. A personal device is going to be your best bet (HRM, BodyBug, FitBit) are going to give you the best estimate -- everything else is a 'pretty good guess'.
And go easy on the guy who said he was sick of gals starving themselvs and then complaining that they aren't loosing...there are a LOT of those girls around here and it does get a bit tiresome.
You can read "in place of a road map" or follow Scooby or Fat-To-Fit and be healthy. Just make sure you put in your reading and learn and then experiment until you find what works for you. You'll find a little thumbtack by the stuff that's really important to read through so that you have a good understanding of how each of those plans work.
We were all new at this at one point and we all struggled thorugh the numerous acronyms and figuring out how to make this whole thing work.
Good luck and don't hesitate to friend me if you want.0
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