Does anyone know?

UsedToBeHusky

How much of weight loss (in terms of percentage) is actually fat loss on a normal calorie-restricted diet without exercise?

I am only asking because I saw that Lipozene commercial that guarantees 70% of weight lost will be fat. It seems to me that that would be pretty standard for a calorie-restricted diet without exercise. But then again, I do not know.

Not really considering the product. I just know that products that make health claims like that are usually misleading and I'm hoping someone has the info to debunk this one.

SideSteel

No idea but I'd speculate that it depends on how obese one is. I would expect someone going from 20% to 10% would lose more LBM than someone going from 40% to 30%, for example.

UsedToBeHusky

No idea but I'd speculate that it depends on how obese one is. I would expect someone going from 20% to 10% would lose more LBM than someone going from 40% to 30%, for example.

Yeah, I guess I could see your point. So is it safe to say that Lipozene's commercial is making a false claim. I'm working on a marketing paper on the subject and was poking around the FTC website. I was not aware that the FTC takes complaints from the general public. Of course, I would probably have had to use the product to make a complaint, which I have no intention of doing.

CristinaL1983

It depends a lot on the diet itself including duration. A lot of pills push out mostly water so I think they are trying to distinguish themselves that way.

70% fat is pretty standard to a little bit low. Most studies show more like 77%-90%. Again, that depends a lot on the diet. Most of the studies are done over 12-16 weeks. Anything shorter term (2-8 weeks) usually has more water weight loss 50-60% and fat loss in the range of 40%.

It also depends on the initial weight of the participants.

Basically, there are a lot of variables.

SideSteel

No idea but I'd speculate that it depends on how obese one is. I would expect someone going from 20% to 10% would lose more LBM than someone going from 40% to 30%, for example.

Yeah, I guess I could see your point. So is it safe to say that Lipozene's commercial is making a false claim. I'm working on a marketing paper on the subject and was poking around the FTC website. I was not aware that the FTC takes complaints from the general public. Of course, I would probably have had to use the product to make a complaint, which I have no intention of doing.

I don't think you could prove the claim incorrect without proving it.

EDIT: My wife was yapping at me when I typed that. I'm not going to correct it, I'm just going to LOL really hard at how stupid that sentence is.

NCchar130

I don't think you could prove the claim incorrect without proving it.

EDIT: My wife was yapping at me when I typed that. I'm not going to correct it, I'm just going to LOL really hard at how stupid that sentence is.

I'm just popping in to say that this ^^ is the funniest thing I've read all day. :laugh: :laugh:

UsedToBeHusky

No idea but I'd speculate that it depends on how obese one is. I would expect someone going from 20% to 10% would lose more LBM than someone going from 40% to 30%, for example.

Yeah, I guess I could see your point. So is it safe to say that Lipozene's commercial is making a false claim. I'm working on a marketing paper on the subject and was poking around the FTC website. I was not aware that the FTC takes complaints from the general public. Of course, I would probably have had to use the product to make a complaint, which I have no intention of doing.

Another factor is how many calories? The smaller your deficit the least likely you will lose LBM. What is a "standard" diet deficit also?

To keep things simple, ina report i'd just stress that, if an obese person and a lean person both had the same deficit and both took the drug. They both equally won't lose 70% of their weight from fat.

Yeah, I realized that played a factor also. I'm sure the product comes with a very specific diet plan that is actually a VLCD.