aspartame poisoning?

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  • kdoty0305
    kdoty0305 Posts: 15
    About 3 years ago I suddenly started having issued digesting foods. I would eat, and be in the bathroom 15 minutes later. Took me a while, but I figured I must have suddenly developed an allergy to foods cooked in oils such as canola, vegetable, etc. I could only tolerate Olive Oils in small doses. Then I started having some other issues...I couldn't sit in a car for more than 20 - 40 minutes w/o having to stop for a pee break. At 33 y/o, this isn't normal. So I went to see the doc. He ran a ton of blood tests and found out that my gall bladder doesn't seem to be functioning any longer...so its not properly breaking down the oils, and nutrients in foods, etc. that are being ingested. The doctor said he feels this is from prolonged use of NSAIDs (Ibuprofen, etc.), caffeine (diuretic), and ingesting artifically sweetened foods, including all soda products. He said, especially soda and artificially sweetened beverages, are just as harmful for the gall bladder and liver as alcohol. I was given strict orders to drink no soda, only one cup of coffee or iced tea per day, and any sweetener that I might use in the coffee/tea, needed to be a natural sweetener. I followed his orders, changed my diet to more fruits and veggies, and wah-la...I rarely have an issue any longer either of my two problems.
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    I don't like the taste of aspartame. If I did, I would probably have a diet soda from time to time. I'm not a huge fan of soda, either, though.
  • Eve23
    Eve23 Posts: 2,352 Member
    Yes it is real. My husband who grew up diabetic and therefore used aspartame from the time it came on the market suffered from it. He nearly died before it was figured out and doctors were of no help because most still do not believe it is a possible problem.

    He could not gain weight, problems with all his joints and was having days he could not walk at all. Problems with his sugar levels for no reason whatsoever. Problems sleeping, could not taste food normally. Problems with his eyes. Little to no immunity. A grown man should never weight 85 lbs.

    My daughter also had migraines and I as well.

    You may think this may have been many other problems. However the fact is he has now been all aspartame and other artificial sweetners and suffers none of those problems. In fact he started to improve in less than a week of quiting all aspartame and within a 2 more weeks he was gaining weight and able to taste things again. His eyes improved and he didn't have days when he couldn't work or walk anymore. His blood sugars stablized. Nothing else changed during this time.

    Aspartame is addictive and poison. Regardless of any other opinions this is one thing I have no doubt in. I have seen it first hand. Yes it is true that many do not have these reactions but one thing to remember is that it does not come out of your system immediately. It builds up. You may not even realize you have a reaction or poisioning until you are at that point.
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    Artificial sweeteners are not good. If they were they would be able to prove it. I believe you can get too much of anything. Moderation is a concept that many are against.

    Sorry what? :huh:

    They haven't produced any studies saying it is bad either. The only studies saying artificial sweeteners are bad are in doses you just couldn't ingest. And while you all argue about the big companies having power in the states - it isn't banned in other countries, and they haven't produced research saying its bad.

    I wouldn't say many people are against moderation - just a small few. For most moderation is just sensible.

    If it affects you then stop ingesting it - but for most people it isn't a problem.
  • DalekBrittany
    DalekBrittany Posts: 1,748 Member
    Some people (myself included) have an "intolerance" or "allergy", whatever you wanna call it, to aspartame. I get a migraine, I get bloated, gassy...so I stay away from it :) But I have no idea if poisoning is real, but I'd go out on a limb and say you'd have to be drinking your body weight in aspartame daily...o.O
  • 1223345
    1223345 Posts: 1,386 Member
    Artificial sweeteners are not good. If they were they would be able to prove it. I believe you can get too much of anything. Moderation is a concept that many are against.

    Sorry what? :huh:

    They haven't produced any studies saying it is bad either. The only studies saying artificial sweeteners are bad are in doses you just couldn't ingest. And while you all argue about the big companies having power in the states - it isn't banned in other countries, and they haven't produced research saying its bad.

    I wouldn't say many people are against moderation - just a small few. For most moderation is just sensible.

    If it affects you then stop ingesting it - but for most people it isn't a problem.
    Here. You can take whatever you like from this.
    http://www.mpwhi.com/peer_reviewed_research.htm
    http://foodfreedomgroup.com/2013/02/04/aspartame-linked-to-leukemia-and-lymphoma-in-landmark-study-on-humans/
  • now I have a sudden urge to run out to grab a 6-pack of TAB....remember TAB? And the warning label on the side about the sacharrin causing cancer in lab rats? I love TAB, buy up the stuff whenever I can...its been a guilty pleasure since the 70's :flowerforyou:
  • chercee
    chercee Posts: 120 Member
    Personally, I stay away from artificial sweeteners, period. I'd rather have a little bit of honey, agave, brown sugar, than deal with artifical sweeteners. I find artificial sweeteners make me feel unwell - headaches, indigestion, bloating, etc. I don't think it "poisons" me, but it certainly doesn't make me feel good. Everyone is different though, and we all have to make our choices.
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    Artificial sweeteners are not good. If they were they would be able to prove it. I believe you can get too much of anything. Moderation is a concept that many are against.

    Sorry what? :huh:

    They haven't produced any studies saying it is bad either. The only studies saying artificial sweeteners are bad are in doses you just couldn't ingest. And while you all argue about the big companies having power in the states - it isn't banned in other countries, and they haven't produced research saying its bad.

    I wouldn't say many people are against moderation - just a small few. For most moderation is just sensible.

    If it affects you then stop ingesting it - but for most people it isn't a problem.
    Here. You can take whatever you like from this.
    http://www.mpwhi.com/peer_reviewed_research.htm
    http://foodfreedomgroup.com/2013/02/04/aspartame-linked-to-leukemia-and-lymphoma-in-landmark-study-on-humans/

    the bold one isn't even research - its a list of article and letters cherry picked by someone with an agenda. Oh reading more, it's a conspiracy website. Excellent choice.

    I'm guessing you didn't read the studies from the second one (also not a great choice for scientific evidence without bias) - from the first one I looked at

    "CONCLUSION:

    Although our findings preserve the possibility of a detrimental effect of a constituent of diet soda, such as aspartame, on select cancers, the inconsistent sex effects and occurrence of an apparent cancer risk in individuals who consume regular soda do not permit the ruling out of chance as an explanation."

    I'm going to bed. Feel free to insult me for disagreeing with you. Night.
  • 1223345
    1223345 Posts: 1,386 Member
    Artificial sweeteners are not good. If they were they would be able to prove it. I believe you can get too much of anything. Moderation is a concept that many are against.

    Sorry what? :huh:

    They haven't produced any studies saying it is bad either. The only studies saying artificial sweeteners are bad are in doses you just couldn't ingest. And while you all argue about the big companies having power in the states - it isn't banned in other countries, and they haven't produced research saying its bad.

    I wouldn't say many people are against moderation - just a small few. For most moderation is just sensible.

    If it affects you then stop ingesting it - but for most people it isn't a problem.
    Here. You can take whatever you like from this.
    http://www.mpwhi.com/peer_reviewed_research.htm
    http://foodfreedomgroup.com/2013/02/04/aspartame-linked-to-leukemia-and-lymphoma-in-landmark-study-on-humans/

    the bold one isn't even research - its a list of article and letters cherry picked by someone with an agenda. Oh reading more, it's a conspiracy website. Excellent choice.

    I'm guessing you didn't read the studies from the second one (also not a great choice for scientific evidence without bias) - from the first one I looked at

    "CONCLUSION:

    Although our findings preserve the possibility of a detrimental effect of a constituent of diet soda, such as aspartame, on select cancers, the inconsistent sex effects and occurrence of an apparent cancer risk in individuals who consume regular soda do not permit the ruling out of chance as an explanation."

    I'm going to bed. Feel free to insult me for disagreeing with you. Night.

    Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't play the "You suck because we don't agree" game. I am only saying, here are a couple of links, take form them what you will. And yes, the first one was a page with links to other articles. It was good because it had them all on one page. Anyhoo, that's just my position. Again, sorry for not putting up a fight. Arguing isn't really my style. I speak my mind and move on much to the frustration of others.
  • julies90
    julies90 Posts: 646 Member
    I think it's one of those things that people are never gonna really be sure of, or agree on. I don't think its the best thing in the world for you, but I'm not convinced that it's gonna kill people, Personally I love me a good diet coke.:bigsmile:
  • FredDoyle
    FredDoyle Posts: 2,273 Member
    Artificial sweeteners are not good. If they were they would be able to prove it. I believe you can get too much of anything. Moderation is a concept that many are against.
    Maybe the imaginary aspartame poison will cure your imaginary candida problem.
  • 1223345
    1223345 Posts: 1,386 Member
    Artificial sweeteners are not good. If they were they would be able to prove it. I believe you can get too much of anything. Moderation is a concept that many are against.
    Maybe the imaginary aspartame poison will cure your imaginary candida problem.
    I see. You are a know it all who knows very little. You enjoy yourself.
  • mammiehorn
    mammiehorn Posts: 119 Member
    I have heard that its only harmful if it is stored above 90 degrees farenheit. So I suppose if it sat in a warm car than someone drank it or on an unrefridgerated shelf or something. But I don't like it all too much just cuz it makes you have to pee alot and it makes you crave sugar more than other types of drinks.
  • mammiehorn
    mammiehorn Posts: 119 Member
    I definitely need to check out the danger of it being stored above 90 degrees. I actually learned to prefer my diet pepsi warm because everyone would forget to replace my cold ones in the refrigerator so I gave up and started drinking it room temp. Maybe this is why sometimes I feel bad when I drink it and sometimes I don't.
  • FearAnLoathingJ
    FearAnLoathingJ Posts: 337 Member
    Every time I eat anything with aspartame in it I get sick. Not 'i've been poisoned' sick. I come down with a cold. I can taste when aspartame is in something without it being listed (a lot of alcohols have aspartame and don't list their ingredients) and it can give me a headache as well as a sore throat.

    I think it's terrible for you and it should be avoided, which is hard because it hides in things with 'healthy' labels.


    obviously its terrible for YOU but that doesn't mean it is for everyone
  • Pvestin
    Pvestin Posts: 19 Member
    I try to be as chemical free as I can, so soda of any kind is a very infrequent treat. This does not adress aspartame poisoning but it does suggest that Diet Soda MIGHT not be as consequence free as some think.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/11/diet-soda-diabetes-risk-type-2-artificially-sweetened-sugar_n_2663247.html

    "Of course, it's important to note that the researchers only found an association -- it's not known whether the artificial sweeteners in the diet drinks actually case diabetes, or if people who are already prone to diabetes tend to drink more diet drinks (perhaps in an effort to decrease their sugar intake). "

    And then there is this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/29/diet-soda-weight-gain_n_886409.html

    "A study presented at a American Diabetes Association meeting this week shows that drinking diet soda is associated with a wider waist in humans. And a second study shows that aspartame -- an artificial sweetener in diet soda -- actually raises blood sugar in mice prone to diabetes. "

    And this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/01/diet-soda-stroke-heart-attack_n_1247195.html
    "The researchers found that people who reported drinking diet soda on a daily basis had a 43 percent higher risk of having a vascular event than people who didn't drink any soda, even when accounting for conditions like high blood pressure and diabetes."

    We all get to make our own choices and take our own risks. I personally like to be aware of the risks I am taking. I hate how often something is presentded as healthy when it isn't. Organic potato chips anyone?:drinker:
  • nvhelmer
    nvhelmer Posts: 3
    I quit eating artificial anything about a year ago and feel much better. If I can't visualize it growing in nature, then I just don't eat it. So, what the heck would Aspartane look like growing? Crystals in a test tube?
  • Monny287
    Monny287 Posts: 109
    I used to drink at least a liter of Diet Coke a day, and never had any ill effects from it (except maybe the jitters from so much caffeine). I don't think artificial food is particularly good for you, which is why I cut the soda out of my diet, but I don't think the amount most people drink is going to hurt them. Unless you're drinking your body weight in diet soda, in which case yes, there may be some cause for concern.