The hardship diet: losing weight the Cuban way

socajam

Where does the US come into this. Anyone from out of space would think that the whole problem stems from the Cuban Government starving their people, when big foot decides to ensure that economic sanctions crippled the country just because the Cuban Government does not bend to our demands. Fault does not lie with one government research would show that.

ctalimenti

You guys, chill. It's just a study/observation.

PetulantOne

So..we are now using the forced starvation of a whole country as a way to justify our diet choices? Cool beans.
I wish people who never went through one day of poverty in their lives would stop trying to find the "silver linings" in it.

QFT

TylerJ76

You guys, chill. It's just a study/observation.

That is being discussed, yes?

DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!

GoldspursX3

Shocking:noway: So the study shows eating less and exercising more lowers risks of diseases? I had no idea.

I'll pass on the government forcing me to live like that.

myofibril

call me crazy, but I want to live in a country where the poor have problems with being overweight.

So the US or the UK then.

Obesity seems to be correlated with poverty in these environments which is odd given that poorer people tend to hold manual jobs as opposed to "white collar" jobs and therefore should be more active....

BeachGingerOnTheRocks

You guys, chill. It's just a study/observation.

That is being discussed, yes?

DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!

A study/observation that sees a silver lining to starvation and a return to pre-industrial labor.

Yea, that's pretty cool. We should chill.

Marilyn0924

When your country's dictator is starving you and then someone comes along and thinks "This is actually good for you!" - that's messed up. Just knowing friends who got out of Cuba and knowing they left because they were hungry and their government wasn't providing them enough of the basics - that kills me. This article is awful.

Of course this would have nothing to do with your country's imposed embargo...

K_Serz

Still trying to figure out why this post is in the "General Diet and Weight Loss Help" section.

Wondering how many pages it will go before locking

lithezebra

I think it's fine to observe that when people ate less and exercised more, in their daily lives, not because they had the privilege of taking time for exercise, rates of obesity related diseases dropped. The facts are not political.

Jlopez201

I find this article very offensive. As if starving were a choice.

PomegranatePriestess

When your country's dictator is starving you and then someone comes along and thinks "This is actually good for you!" - that's messed up. Just knowing friends who got out of Cuba and knowing they left because they were hungry and their government wasn't providing them enough of the basics - that kills me. This article is awful.

Of course this would have nothing to do with your country's imposed embargo...

Since this was done in 1960 and I wasn't even alive yet... I guess they couldn't ask me if I supported it before they went ahead and did it. Because, you know, normally every single person in America is asked before the government goes and does something.

lacurandera1

More calories expended than consumed= weight loss. Why is this news?

Bc so many people think they can take a pill or drink a drink and lose weight. If people were more and better informed, what should be common sense wouldn't be news.

cmcollins001

Between 1990 and 1995, the average Cuban consumed fewer calories than they expended each day, leading to an average weight loss of 5kg.

I wonder what the TDEE-20% (eat more or you won't lose weight) fanatics have to say about this. Oh, I guess they could claim that the weight loss was "lean" body mass. I'm pretty sure these people were dropping fat like crazy. I've always been wary of posting this in the forums, but I often think of the concentration camp victims and how they ate VERY little and worked from dawn 'til dusk. I didn't see any overweight people leaving those camps. Oh, and before I get attacked, I agree that forced starvation and labor are horrible. Voluntary "starvation" and exercise... not so much.

What's interesting about your statement is that you have the attitude as though the "TDEE-20% fanatics" are trying to hurt anyone. Eating at a deficit is what drops weight. Period. But if you don't have to eat at a very low calorie, then why would you? Most people give up trying to lose weight because they are fooled into believing that they have to eat really really really low, then in most cases, that type of diet is more harmful than helpful.

Also, just because you don't see any overweight people leaving concentration camps, doesn't mean you saw any healthy one leave there either. Malnutrition, messed up metabolism, poor health in general...not exactly a goal to strive for, at least in my book.

It's the misconception that thin = healthy that is surprising me. Thin does not always equal healthy.

parys1

Between 1990 and 1995, the average Cuban consumed fewer calories than they expended each day, leading to an average weight loss of 5kg.

I wonder what the TDEE-20% (eat more or you won't lose weight) fanatics have to say about this. Oh, I guess they could claim that the weight loss was "lean" body mass. I'm pretty sure these people were dropping fat like crazy. I've always been wary of posting this in the forums, but I often think of the concentration camp victims and how they ate VERY little and worked from dawn 'til dusk. I didn't see any overweight people leaving those camps. Oh, and before I get attacked, I agree that forced starvation and labor are horrible. Voluntary "starvation" and exercise... not so much.

What's interesting about your statement is that you have the attitude as though the "TDEE-20% fanatics" are trying to hurt anyone. Eating at a deficit is what drops weight. Period. But if you don't have to eat at a very low calorie, then why would you? Most people give up trying to lose weight because they are fooled into believing that they have to eat really really really low, then in most cases, that type of diet is more harmful than helpful.

Also, just because you don't see any overweight people leaving concentration camps, doesn't mean you saw any healthy one leave there either. Malnutrition, messed up metabolism, poor health in general...not exactly a goal to strive for, at least in my book.

It's the misconception that thin = healthy that is surprising me. Thin does not always equal healthy.

Many, if not most, people who were fortunate enough to survive concentration camps, were emaciated and near dead.

capnrus789

Things weren't a whoel ot better before that either. My wife is Cuban, came here on a tiny boat. I don't have 1st hand experience, but I've heard the stories and seen pictures.

LaLouve_RK

But Cubans have such an awesome Arroz Congri! :happy: YUM.... drooling just thinking about it! :sad:

Ivian_

Yeah...I'm not too sure I even want to read that article. :noway:

theCarlton

When your country's dictator is starving you and then someone comes along and thinks "This is actually good for you!" - that's messed up. Just knowing friends who got out of Cuba and knowing they left because they were hungry and their government wasn't providing them enough of the basics - that kills me. This article is awful.

Of course this would have nothing to do with your country's imposed embargo...

You are incredibly misguided. If you think Cuba's leader(s) are suffering the same mistreatment as its citizens, you could blame the US embargo. But, as in most dictatorships, the top is resting comfortably while the bottom struggles to survive. Our embargo isn't causing their leaders' greed. It's also not the reason they've shut themselves out from most of the world.

ctalimenti

Yeah...I'm not too sure I even want to read that article. :noway:

It's very tame and again, just an observation.