Do you have gut problems or low energy?

matisse216
matisse216 Posts: 41
in Health and Weight Loss
I was wondering if any of you could tell me if you have any of the above, and how much bread/pasta/wheat you eat in a day?

-Low energy
-IBS
-OCD
-Phobia's
-Low back pain

I really want to see if there is a link between these foods and these health problems.
«1

Replies

  • 86_Ohms
    86_Ohms Posts: 253 Member
    I've never been diagnosed, but I've virtually eliminated all stomach issues I've had by cutting bread/pasta/wheat way back to almost nothing. Then, eating something that's filled with fries, a large pasta dish, or something similar, I feel like crap the next couple days.

    My energy level has gone way up since incorporating fats and proteins as my main source of energy. No more wanting to nap after my lunch at work.
  • pennydreadful270
    pennydreadful270 Posts: 266 Member
    Asking people in this way is guaranteed to get biased results. People tend to answer what they think you want to hear.

    An example of a good study for this type of question would be to pick a sample of people with these symptoms and then ask them how much wheat they consume, alongside other food types. Then you pick a group of people without these and see how much they consume. Then you see if the first group have a higher intake than the second. That is a case-control study, looking back in time.
  • xvegivorex
    xvegivorex Posts: 31
    I have GERD (Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease) - nasty stuff. Does that count? lol :D
  • verzanie
    verzanie Posts: 54 Member
    I was wondering if any of you could tell me if you have any of the above, and how much bread/pasta/wheat you eat in a day?

    -Low energy
    -IBS
    -OCD
    -Phobia's
    -Low back pain

    I really want to see if there is a link between these foods and these health problems.

    interesting post. I've been a low carber for many years and lately was following Dukan. When I then got onto MFP I started to incorporate carbs as I really wanted to get a fuller macro mix. Guess what? I am booked to go into hospital for a small op to check my gut/colon as I've been having serious issues (they think IBS or something similar/worse)..I am still eating the carbs and will wait to see what happens at the hospital but I am pretty sure that some (not all) people could benefit from cutting on simple carbs
  • matisse216
    matisse216 Posts: 41
    Ohms - What you have described is almost exactly what most patients at our clinic explain to us.
    If you have never completely gut out grain (gluten) for an extended peroid of time I would definitely recommend this.
    I had been low wheat for many years and seen a massave change in myself, but It wasn't until I went strict zero gluten foe 3-6 weeks that I got the real change that I have know.
    Learning more about what gluten is, is a great way to start.


    Penny - I really didn't want to single anyone out and I am not to fussed if the answers are some what biased.
    I am not using any of this information as data for a report or anything like that.


    Vegivorex - I don't know much about GERD in particular, but it is a form of gut damage isn't it?
    If so, would you say that you eat wheat on a daily basis?
  • 86_Ohms
    86_Ohms Posts: 253 Member
    Can I recommend the facebook page and website 'The Wellness Sequence', as this is where I found the zero gluten diet.
    The testimonials for not only energy and IBS, but back pain and mental health disorders like phobias and OCD are really interesting.

    Penny - I really didn't want to single anyone out and I am not to fussed if the answers are some what biased.
    I am not using any of this information as data for a report or anything like that.

    Gluten, which is found in most grains/cereals seems to be the biggest irritant to the gut.
    Check out these links which have some great information


    But, the way you word your posts, it still seems like you're trying to advertise something.

    Just saying. :drinker:
  • cleotherio
    cleotherio Posts: 712 Member
    I was wondering if any of you could tell me if you have any of the above, and how much bread/pasta/wheat you eat in a day?

    -Low energy
    -IBS
    -OCD
    -Phobia's
    -Low back pain

    I really want to see if there is a link between these foods and these health problems.

    I eat grain products with gluten daily and don't have any of these problems. I did Southbeach a few years ago which cuts all carbs for a few weeks. I didn't notice any difference. I don't have a carb-heavy diet, but when I do splurge and eat a bunch of wheat/carbs in a day, I don't have any issues.
  • wnbrice
    wnbrice Posts: 244 Member
    Well a lot of people have a gluten allergy/sensitivity that goes undiagnosed(I am going to an appointment this week to check) so if you have an allergy many of those symptoms could be present. It is not a problem with gluten itself, but your individual allergy to it.
  • theCarlton
    theCarlton Posts: 1,344 Member
    Gluten, which is found in most grains/cereals seems to be the biggest irritant to the gut.
    Check out these links which have some great information
    Speaking of bias.

    You have asked a question and also provided not only the answers you believe are true, but also links to personal websites to back it up.
  • matisse216
    matisse216 Posts: 41
    Hey all,

    Sorry If I have offended anyone.
    I simply wanted to share some solutions to anyone else who has had similar problems that I have had in the past.
    They are uncomfortable conditions and just wanted to lend some support.

    I was really impressed with the results that I got and thought I'd share the love!

    Sorry :frown: :flowerforyou:
  • JacksMom12
    JacksMom12 Posts: 1,044 Member
    I was wondering if any of you could tell me if you have any of the above, and how much bread/pasta/wheat you eat in a day?

    -Low energy
    -IBS
    -OCD
    -Phobia's
    -Low back pain

    I really want to see if there is a link between these foods and these health problems.


    I eat gluten daily:

    I have high energy
    Poop like a champ
    Not OCD
    Ain't scurred
    Back feels great.

    Weird.

    My sister has celiac's, so I do know SOME people can't tolerate gluten. But, come on this gluten thing has gotten way too trendy.
  • matisse216
    matisse216 Posts: 41

    I eat gluten daily:

    I have high energy
    Poop like a champ
    Not OCD
    Ain't scurred
    Back feels great.

    Weird.

    My sister has celiac's, so I do know SOME people can't tolerate gluten. But, come on this gluten thing has gotten way too trendy.

    Thanks Jack's mum for your response, but this actually wasn't the question that I asked.
    If you can tolerate gluten, you are so lucky and I envy you!

    And it's not weird at all that you can function well with it.
    Peoples digestive systems don't function the same, and I actually posted this for people who have gut problems and low energy.
  • LouiseDavis65
    LouiseDavis65 Posts: 30 Member
    I have IBS - it's a constant battle with whatever I eat, but I have learned that there are definitely some things that irritate it more than others. I have not cut out breads/pastas completely, but since I have cut back on them - I have definitely found I have a lot more energy.
  • BeinAwesome247
    BeinAwesome247 Posts: 257 Member
    I have never been diagnosed with anything or had serious issues, HOWEVER my physical pms symptoms ease up dramatically when I limit bread & pasta consumption. Actually I don't eat pasta at all anymore - bread occasionally but I try and keep it limited.
  • Thorbjornn
    Thorbjornn Posts: 329 Member
    I've never been diagnosed, but I've virtually eliminated all stomach issues I've had by cutting bread/pasta/wheat way back to almost nothing. Then, eating something that's filled with fries, a large pasta dish, or something similar, I feel like crap the next couple days.

    My energy level has gone way up since incorporating fats and proteins as my main source of energy. No more wanting to nap after my lunch at work.

    I would have written exactly the same thing. I'm off the wheat, and even oats, which are iffy and controversial wrt gluten. My stomach is going down. I don't have the gas and bloating. I brought up gluten intolerance and its cascade effects beginning with increased cortisol, on a WW for men board when I was a member, and got run off for all the mockery I took about it.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    I was wondering if any of you could tell me if you have any of the above, and how much bread/pasta/wheat you eat in a day?

    -Low energy
    -IBS
    -OCD
    -Phobia's
    -Low back pain

    I really want to see if there is a link between these foods and these health problems.

    I have phobias and OCD. I also have low energy and a mood disorder (possibly mostly unipolar depressive bipolar).

    I eat atleast 250 grams of carbs a day. Cutting carbs did nothing but make me feel SIGNIFICANTLY worse. :)
  • Thorbjornn
    Thorbjornn Posts: 329 Member
    ... this gluten thing has gotten way too trendy.

    I respectfully disagree it's "trendy" or a fad to have these effects, any more than lactose intolerance, diabetes, or hypothyroidism are trendy and fads. It's not that people are jumping on these "fad bandwagons", it's that doctors are becoming more open-minded about physical conditions that have plagued mankind for milennia, and are now diagnosing them. There is no evidence in pre-Neollithic, pre-agricultural human remains (bones talk) of any of these conditions until wheat started showing up in the human diet. I don't care what it's called; the cause and effects are real. The wheat that's grown today is nothing like the wild wheat Neolithic peoples began cultivating. Even then, there's a genetic component in that many humans cannot properly process gluten. There is plenty of PubMed literature.
  • rabbiter
    rabbiter Posts: 19 Member
    I often have trouble with low energy and stomach. I rarely eat bread/pasta/wheat and it makes little/no difference to me.
  • llkilgore
    llkilgore Posts: 1,169 Member
    My chronic gastric problems went away completely after I cut all high carb foods from my diet, but it turned out that wheat and gluten weren't the culprits in my case. I was later able to reintroduce all of the common starchy foods without difficulty except potatoes, other than sweet potatoes.
  • Lumen1505
    Lumen1505 Posts: 77 Member
    I have found that bread & pasta do me no favours - I get tired, bloated and I truggle not to binge on them - no idea why ? I'm find with rice & oats so guess for me its more over processed carbs - either way I steer clear now and am a lot happier for it :-)
  • unnur16
    unnur16 Posts: 140 Member
    i have low back pain, and i do not eat any of those food except for maybe 1 slice of bread per. week
  • JoRumbles
    JoRumbles Posts: 262 Member
    I have a gut problem called ulcerative colitis.

    If I eat lots of bran- like branflakes, wholewheat bread etc, I know about it. If I swap it for white bread and white pasta then I'm fine. Its becuase of the insoluble fibre.

    Not everyone is allergic to gluten. People with coeliac disease must get really ticked off with everyone claiming to be gluten intolerant.
  • Thorbjornn
    Thorbjornn Posts: 329 Member
    But there's a difference between gluten intolerance/sensitivity, an allergy and celiac, which people don't realize. In that case people with celiac have every right to be annoyed. Sort of like lactose intolerance. Lactose intolerance just causes uncomfortable effects. Celiac does actual damage, but it gets lumped in with gluten intolerance.
  • FitnessFinatic123
    FitnessFinatic123 Posts: 7
    YES! However, a great source of energy is BEETS!
    Heres a blog posting about the benefits of beets....who knew!??!
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    ... this gluten thing has gotten way too trendy.

    I respectfully disagree it's "trendy" or a fad to have these effects, any more than lactose intolerance, diabetes, or hypothyroidism are trendy and fads. It's not that people are jumping on these "fad bandwagons", it's that doctors are becoming more open-minded about physical conditions that have plagued mankind for milennia, and are now diagnosing them. There is no evidence in pre-Neollithic, pre-agricultural human remains (bones talk) of any of these conditions until wheat started showing up in the human diet. I don't care what it's called; the cause and effects are real. The wheat that's grown today is nothing like the wild wheat Neolithic peoples began cultivating. Even then, there's a genetic component in that many humans cannot properly process gluten. There is plenty of PubMed literature.

    Bones talk about diabetes? And hypothyroidism?

    Hmmm...

    What Bout atherosclerosis? Or is that one been officially left off the list? http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(13)60598-X/abstract


    If you think about it, isn't this kind of an extension of idealizing a mythic past, like the garden of Eden? The more evidence is uncovered, the more we find that these problems have plagued humanity since prehistoric times.
  • Thorbjornn
    Thorbjornn Posts: 329 Member
    The more evidence is uncovered, the more we find that these problems have plagued humanity since prehistoric times.

    There will be sources for this then? Yes, bones do tell tales. They tell what was eaten, by the chemical elements found in the soil taken up by the food source. The chemical elements remain in the bones. Certain geographical areas have their own chemical signatures. There's no denying that present day hunter-gatherer groups don't experience the physical ailments people in the "developed" world do. the Inuit are a prime example of an indigenous people who developed diabetes, in particular, when they gave up their traditional diet for a "modern" diet. They genetically predisposed to it because there hasn't been enough time for them to adapt to it. No one is saying that 100% of modern humans can't eat the typical modern diet (note my comment "Even then, there's a genetic component in that many humans cannot properly process gluten" ... many, not all) but among many groups, there hasn't been enough time for adaptation. compare 8,000 years of agriculture to 200,000 years of human evolution. Eight thousand years is a blink of the eye in evolutionary terms.
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    I posted a link for you right there, from the journal The Lancet. Published a couple months ago.


    They looked at mummified remains from various civilizations (no, not just Egypt) in various parts of the world, including hunter gatherers and fish based diets, as well as non grain vegetable base diets.

    It was quite well publicized and talked about. Debunks not all the claims behind paleo diets, but definitely the idea that heart disease and vascular problems are a symptom of modern diets or grain.


    It was a bit too good to be true, don't you think? Every few years we get some new fad diet claiming to take us back to the garden of Eden.
  • FredDoyle
    FredDoyle Posts: 2,273 Member
    I posted a link for you right there, from the journal The Lancet. Published a couple months ago.


    They looked at mummified remains from various civilizations (no, not just Egypt) in various parts of the world, including hunter gatherers and fish based diets, as well as non grain vegetable base diets.

    It was quite well publicized and talked about. Debunks not all the claims behind paleo diets, but definitely the idea that heart disease and vascular problems are a symptom of modern diets or grain.


    It was a bit too good to be true, don't you think? Every few years we get some new fad diet claiming to take us back to the garden of Eden.
    Yes, well said. Thanks for the link.
    The previous poster compares gluten intolerance to lactose intolerance but there is a mechanism to explain that. Lactase non-persistence. There is one to explain celiacs as well. I'm afraid that gluten intolerance is trendy and the domain of "wellness" practitioners and the mechanisms are not in evidence.
  • Thorbjornn
    Thorbjornn Posts: 329 Member
    Please Google 'PubMed gluten intolerance' and 'PubMed gluten sensitivity'. I'll leave you with that; I can't add anymore to those reports.
  • Guisma
    Guisma Posts: 215
    I was wondering if any of you could tell me if you have any of the above, and how much bread/pasta/wheat you eat in a day?

    -Low energy
    -IBS
    -OCD
    -Phobia's
    -Low back pain

    I really want to see if there is a link between these foods and these health problems.


    I have low energy , ocd pure obcessional,constipation and 2 disc herniation. I did a celiose test and indicated negative. I never did a gluten sensibility test thought

Categories