Foods high in calories for kids?

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  • thisisjl
    thisisjl Posts: 1,074 Member
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    I ignored it because you weren't yelling at me about making my kid gain weight you simply stated most kids lose some over the summer. She has issues eatting because of stomach pains which we have been trying to investigate. I'm not JUST trying to make her gain weight and we recently moved to a new neighborhood (a year ago) and she hasn't made a lot of friends so she hasn't been out "playing" as much as she use to.
  • marmatt13
    marmatt13 Posts: 16 Member
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    If you can make her smoothies with peanut butter, banana, even avocado (she doesn't have to know), that will get her some nutrition and calories. You can use almond or rice milk if you want non-dairy.

    Maybe some home baked blueberry muffins, pasta (whole grain) with a creamy sauce. Full fat yogurts, pudding, or purchase some of that Pediasure.

    Have you checked with her pediatrician to see what's up?

    We started with her pediatrician when she started having issues with her stomach they ruled out what they could then they sent us on to a Gastroenterologist who did more testing and in the end we still don't have a reason as to why her tummy hurts. There is another test we can do but I've been putting it off since she's been through so much testing lately and that is to actually scope her stomach but thats pretty invasive and she's freaked out by the thought of it and her dad is convinced it's just a nervous stomach. With the weight loss issue now a factor I might concider it after we get back from vacation since that is a new development.

    My son had similar issues, we were referrred to a Pediatric Gastroenterologist and he had both a stomach scope and a colonoscopy (yes, scary to go through but he was in so much pain we had to figure it out) Anyway....through that testing he was diagneosed as Lactose Intolerant. I would never believe that LI could cause so much discomfort, but for him it did. Now that we know he takes Lactaid before having dairy and he is doing really well.
  • thisisjl
    thisisjl Posts: 1,074 Member
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    If you can make her smoothies with peanut butter, banana, even avocado (she doesn't have to know), that will get her some nutrition and calories. You can use almond or rice milk if you want non-dairy.

    Maybe some home baked blueberry muffins, pasta (whole grain) with a creamy sauce. Full fat yogurts, pudding, or purchase some of that Pediasure.

    Have you checked with her pediatrician to see what's up?

    We started with her pediatrician when she started having issues with her stomach they ruled out what they could then they sent us on to a Gastroenterologist who did more testing and in the end we still don't have a reason as to why her tummy hurts. There is another test we can do but I've been putting it off since she's been through so much testing lately and that is to actually scope her stomach but thats pretty invasive and she's freaked out by the thought of it and her dad is convinced it's just a nervous stomach. With the weight loss issue now a factor I might concider it after we get back from vacation since that is a new development.

    My son had similar issues, we were referrred to a Pediatric Gastroenterologist and he had both a stomach scope and a colonoscopy (yes, scary to go through but he was in so much pain we had to figure it out) Anyway....through that testing he was diagneosed as Lactose Intolerant. I would never believe that LI could cause so much discomfort, but for him it did. Now that we know he takes Lactaid before having dairy and he is doing really well.

    did they do blood tests to check for food allergies before doing all that? They told me all her food allergy tests came back negative I was worried it was going to be Celiacs or something I have a friend with it and this is how she use to feel. It's her upper GI so I wouldn't have to worry about the colonoscopy but they want to scope her tummy next, I've been putting it off hoping it was anxiousness in her new school and home since we moved a year ago and thats when many symptoms got worse she's always had a sensitive tummy. Might have to just do it though.
  • nokittyno
    nokittyno Posts: 292 Member
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    I'd suggest looking into gluten intolerance, like lactose it can be tricky and detrimental to weight loss/gain, stomach issues, etc you name it.

    Lol you beat me to it. Anyway with Celiscs disease there is almost always a negative, tests super unreliable from what I've read
  • Kadinh
    Kadinh Posts: 6 Member
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    My nephew has abdominal migraines. They cause stomach pains rather than a headache. They put him on meds for it. Hormones are often a trigger for migraines so maybe puberty has triggered something like that in her...
  • diadojikohei
    diadojikohei Posts: 732 Member
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    My son used to get bad tummy pains in the afternoon at school, I gave him mild fruit antacids (always read the label first) and after a while it seemed to clear up. We think he was kind of stressed out a bit at school.

    He is now 18, and eats constantly but is also very sporty, he's nearly 6 foot and has 5% body fat!
    I give my children noodles, baked potatoes and cheesy beans, pasta bakes and they are all skinny!
    The reason I'm not worried is because I used to be very thin too, I'm 5 foot 10 and was 8 stone at 20 years old! But now 27 years later I'm here trying to lose weight and get fit again!

    I try to limit the amount of refined sugar they get, but they eat lots of fruit and they make their own smoothies.
    My daughter will be 11 soon and has gone very long and stringy, she eats mounds of rice and is seldom ill, If your daughter is eating regularly and a variety of food she has a good foundation. Don't forget girls hit puberty earlier than boys too so all of a sudden she'll start changing shape anyway!
  • momtokgo
    momtokgo Posts: 446 Member
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    Celiacs wouldn't show up on a food allergy blood test. They do have a blood test for celiacs, here it takes over 6 weeks to get the results because it has to go to a special lab to be tested. And it still comes back negative quite often. Mine did, even though it is Celiacs.

    You can try an elimination diet with her too if you want to try and get to the bottom of things by yourself. Take out all dairy first maybe and see it if helps. Gluten is a hard one to take out so probably not the best one to start with.

    I understand where you are with your daughter, there is nothing wrong with trying to add some more calories to her day. My oldest is 10, and 61lbs.
  • nxd10
    nxd10 Posts: 4,570 Member
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    Yeah, I have two skinny skinny kids (one now adult) too. 98% height/5% weight: BMI 16-19.

    First, they're healthy because they do eat good food. Calcium is critical because they need that bone mass more than anything. Especially when they grow so fast.

    Avocados, brown rice, eggs, lean meat, beans. They love red lentil salad (it has a sweet/savory dressing).

    Cheese. Good brown bread.

    If they're getting good nutrition, they really will be healthy.
  • nxd10
    nxd10 Posts: 4,570 Member
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    Sorry . . . I didn't read the later updates.

    There is a genetic test for celiac - my sister in law has it REALLY badly and my husband and kids were tested. If there is reason to suspect it insurance will pay.

    My 11 year old (now almost 13) started throwing up and being nauseus when he hit middle school. We just spent a year testing him and showed up nothing. But we do know more about what it is and also he has learned to manage it.

    First, he got migraines that made him vomit. It is - as someone else said - hormones. He's grown a foot (literally) last year. He doesn't get bad heachaches, but it starts in his stomach and he just throws up. Light sensitivity is key and some types of fluorescent lights and smells trigger it. He found that covering his eyes and lying in the dark for 10 minutes when it started coming on could prevent it and he could go back to what he was doing.

    Second, he needed to eat in little tiny amounts. He taught himself to stop eating when he was half full. He manages that well (unless you put a milkshake in front of him).

    Third, it was ANXIETY. He had a nasty teacher that started it. The neurologist we talked to said half of more of his teen patients had anxiety that led to weight loss and vomiting. It could be teasing. It could be trying to do well with school coming up. It could be abuse (scary, but something you always need to look for). It could be just being a worrier.

    We taught my son some relaxation exercise and they also helped tremendously.
  • sz8soon
    sz8soon Posts: 816 Member
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    My nephew has abdominal migraines. They cause stomach pains rather than a headache. They put him on meds for it. Hormones are often a trigger for migraines so maybe puberty has triggered something like that in her...

    My son was diagnosed with the same, poor guy gets the headaches too, we've seen two specialists and are now keeping logs so we can find out what the triggers are
  • islandmonkey
    islandmonkey Posts: 546 Member
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    I'm not JUST trying to make her gain weight and we recently moved to a new neighborhood (a year ago) and she hasn't made a lot of friends so she hasn't been out "playing" as much as she use to.


    Sounds to me like you need to first look at the source of the stomach pains before trying to induce weight gain. I'm sorry you're getting so frustrated and not getting answers on this. Given your comment here, I wonder if she could have some anxiety issues around the move and lack of friends?

    As well, it's pretty common for pre-teen girls to lean out around this age. Does your pediatrician agree that she needs to gain weight...? Is it nutrients she needs? This isn't really a question for amateurs on the internet, there are so many factors going on here. Is her pediatrician aware of this change in location and lack of friends? That's a LONG time for a girl her age to feel like she doesn't have a bestie (their worlds are so small at this age, and girls gravitate towards forming dyads).

    What about going to see a naturopath? I would actually suggest having a session with a counsellor, but that can also be intimidating and there can be stigma attached - a naturopath may be able to do some of that without the stigma.


    It's great that you're reaching out for information and assistance from as many sources as possible. She's a lucky girl to have such a caring mom.
  • MinnieInMaine
    MinnieInMaine Posts: 6,400 Member
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    I too was thinking it may be more of an intolerance than an allergy. Do some research and talk to your doctor about the best way to test for these. The easiest way I know of is to elimiate certain food categories for a period of time and then make note of the reaction. I'm not sure how long a period of time this takes but would think a week would be sufficient.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
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    She said in her post that she didn't want to go into too much detail and just asked about some high calorie and high fat healthy food options that kids might like. I'm pretty sure she knows what is going on with her own child, and has been to a doctor. She was just asking a very simple question. She was not asking everyone to be her child's doctor or to become her psychotherapist. She is probably trying to do the right thing and respect her pre-teen's privacy while asking a simple food question, so she can incorporate some new options into her meal making (since she is probably eating lower in cals for herself). And don't mind me if I misunderstood some of the comments, I did read through it quickly. And just wanted to remind people what she was asking.
  • weird_me2
    weird_me2 Posts: 716 Member
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    I'm a big fan of adding olive oil or canola oil to as much of her foods as you can. This way, you are adding healthy calories without adding extra food. This way, once she has gained an appropriate amount, she shouldn't notice the drop in food. Otherwise, once she has gained the weight she needs, she may feel deprived having to cut out the extra food. You could also do nuts as they are very calorie dense and she won't need a lot to get a lot of calories.

    My youngest DD was way underweight at 4, 6 and 9 months, and I started adding oil to her food (if we had veggies, I'd just pour a little on hers, scrambled eggs, same thing) and even to her smoothies (she loves them, too, but don't use EVOO for this!). She went from not even on the chart for height/weight at 9 months to 50% for height/weight at 13 months. She was born at 75% for height/weight, so it was very concerning when she was so far down. We are learning that she needs A LOT of calories for such a little person.
  • thisisjl
    thisisjl Posts: 1,074 Member
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    She said in her post that she didn't want to go into too much detail and just asked about some high calorie and high fat healthy food options that kids might like. I'm pretty sure she knows what is going on with her own child, and has been to a doctor. She was just asking a very simple question. She was not asking everyone to be her child's doctor or to become her psychotherapist. She is probably trying to do the right thing and respect her pre-teen's privacy while asking a simple food question, so she can incorporate some new options into her meal making (since she is probably eating lower in cals for herself). And don't mind me if I misunderstood some of the comments, I did read through it quickly. And just wanted to remind people what she was asking.

    ^^ this

    I am glad for some of the comments in regards to other people having gone through this, if you dont' have a child with stomach issues please don't yell at me without knowing the situtation completely. I could sit here and write out a 4 page detailed report about everything we've done I didn't want to do that.

    If you have help suggestions here is a little more info. Her stomach issues didn't start when we moved but seemed to worsen again. She had issues around the age of 7(?) and we were told she was constipated we put her on mild lax and it seemed to help for a while, then her stomach started hurtign about 18 months ago so I thought it was the same thing again and tried what we did before and it didn't do anything. So we started another round of dr. visits (several within 4 months). Yes she's already hit puberty right around the time we moved as well and started all that fun stuff girls start, so maybe some of it could be hormonal. I did not know that the test the gasteroenterologist did for celiacs often came back negative something I need to look into so thanks for that. I will try to take out milk it's not like she really likes the stuff anyways (well ice cream is always a favorite but she doesn't like drinking it nor does she like cheese). I just assumed if the dr. said it wasn't lactose intolerence or celiacs then it wasn't....I too thought it was school related but it's went through the summer and hasn't gotten better and we've done lots of fun stuff with family and her old friends, she has been talking with a couple new friends on FB and on the phone and has kept in contact with her friends from our old neighborhood so she hasn't been completely without friends just not in our current neighborhood.
  • dreaminaway
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    I am glad to see this topic. I'll keep an eye out to see what other options are posted. I have an 11 year old son who weighs 65 pounds. It bothers him that he is so small. He has just never been interested in eating. He eats the smallest amount that we will let him, and almost never wants seconds. He says eating is boring, and is always trying to get out of it. He does not complain of any stomach issues- he had many doctor visits for something unrelated, and there doesn't seem to be any medical condition that would attribute. He is very active- I created another account to get a look at his intake and once I add in his activities, he's used up all the calories he's eaten and then much more.

    I would run out right now and purchase a blender to make smoothies- I really like the idea of being able to add all kinds of stuff without him being aware- but I don't think he'd go for it.
  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member
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    OP, it sounds like she could have IBS. IBS, in general, is more difficult to diagnose by simple blood tests, etc.

    What does she eat regularly?

    Also, you could try taking her to a Naturopath (which can get expensive) and they can do a stool test.

    EDIT: Also, after reading many of the comments: I was very anxious as a younger child and would often eat oddly, and have the worst bowel movements. Much of it was due to anxiety from school, but I also ended up having a serious thyroid issue that resulted in me getting surgery at 13.

    It's rare, but it might not hurt to get her thyroid levels checked (again, it all comes back to hormones!).
  • nxd10
    nxd10 Posts: 4,570 Member
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    I know (really, really know) how frustrating it is to have a kid with these troubles. He missed days and days of school either because he'd throw up and I wouldn't send him or he'd throw up there and they'd send him home. After every test you can think of (including a surgical sampling of stomach and esophogial cells) they found nothing.

    Elimination diets (which we tried, of course) are very hard and frustrating for everyone. If the doctor tested her for it and says she isn't sensitive, trust that she isn't. Same with celiac. Those tests are pretty good.

    I would pay attention, though, to see if combinations of things set her off. Each little thing may not cause an allergic (or even sensitive) reaction. But they might increase her sensitivity to other things. That is incredibly frustrating because it makes it hard to pinpoint. For example, when my eldest was a baby, he started getting hives. He was only nursing and eating like 3 solids, so that didn't make sense. I did the whole elimination diet. He ate a banana and started crying and got hives. NO ONE is allergic to bananas! It turns out that his skin was sensitive to our new detergent (baby Dreft). That didn't cause a reaction but that and anything else set him off. So you'll just have to be vigilent.

    I am a developmental (not clinical) psychologist who studies adolescents. This age is really hard on kids because of multiple simultaneous changes. Your daughter has puberty, a move, probably a school change (elementary/middle), etc. etc. That's going to be stressful, just as a straight adjustment issue. It was stressful for you! Stress comes out in our most vulnerable spot. For her sounds like her stomach.

    Sounds like you're doing everything right - supporting her finding and maintaining friends, doing things with family, all that good sensible stuff. Making sure she's eating lots of high quality food and pushing high cal healthy food (whole grains, cheeses, whatever) will keep her healthy. As I said, my eldest had a BMI of 16.8 at that age but is healthy as a horse.

    I really did find that for my son teaching him some relaxation techniques helped. I tried to help him help me figure out what helped. We wound up with some deep breathing and visualization things he could do with no one else noticing. He did learn to go to dark rooms and close his eyes. Taking control of feeling sick and learning to manage it was also very empowering for him.

    I keep hoping my youngest son will grow out of it when he gets through this massive hormone surge that seem to trigger his migraines. It never would have occurred to me he had migraines, because he never complained of headaches. But once I realized what was going on, I remembered that I had awful headaches and chronic nauseau at that age. And lots of other kids do too. And I realized he got sick with weather changes - also a sign of migraines. My problems disappeared two years after puberty. I hope his do too.
  • nxd10
    nxd10 Posts: 4,570 Member
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    Dreaminaway - Some kids (and adults) don't like to eat because they simply aren't very sensitive to taste or have chronically stuffy noses so can't smell. So nothing TASTES good. (The opposite of my problem, but one my dad has now that he's older.)

    Does he like things with stronger flavors more? Or really salty or bitter or or spicy or stinky (like cheese)?

    Just a thought.
  • dreaminaway
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    Does he like things with stronger flavors more? Or really salty or bitter or or spicy or stinky (like cheese)?

    Quite the opposite. He doesn't like anything the slightest bit spicy or hot. He has taken some allergy medicine in the past, but I never paid any attention to whether or not a clear nose affects his eating. Interesting.