Is my intolerance of running a result of hypersensitivity?
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The things I do for cardio generally are at an intensity level that manate a rest day afterwards. Want something milder so I can do it daily.
I'm not sure as I have no frame of reference. I'm not very good at just throwing these things out there. I can answer specific questions but that's it.
so you are looking for something that still counts as cardio (as in raises your heartrate in a sustained way) and is repetitive enough and not as jarring... but isn't swimming....
I definately reccommend biking... Chris has really gotten into biking... and the way he was describing it to me... if he knows the trail and he can go his own speed... and he can wear his shades and helmet... it doesn't cause hornets to nest inside his brain...
I know you said you would have to take your bike out of your neighborhood... we do that... I have a carrier on my van that holds three bikes... and my bike is usually kept on it... and I ride often (usually about 100 miles a month)... I find trails that I like and that are on my way home from work (I work nights so I get off at 8am) and I ride... I can rack up the miles pretty quickly....0 -
The things I do for cardio generally are at an intensity level that manate a rest day afterwards. Want something milder so I can do it daily.
I'm not sure as I have no frame of reference. I'm not very good at just throwing these things out there. I can answer specific questions but that's it.
so you are looking for something that still counts as cardio (as in raises your heartrate in a sustained way) and is repetitive enough and not as jarring... but isn't swimming....
I definately reccommend biking... Chris has really gotten into biking... and the way he was describing it to me... if he knows the trail and he can go his own speed... and he can wear his shades and helmet... it doesn't cause hornets to nest inside his brain...
I know you said you would have to take your bike out of your neighborhood... we do that... I have a carrier on my van that holds three bikes... and my bike is usually kept on it... and I ride often (usually about 100 miles a month)... I find trails that I like and that are on my way home from work (I work nights so I get off at 8am) and I ride... I can rack up the miles pretty quickly....
I don't own a car so I'd have to take my bicycle on the bus. Very troublesome =( There are no nearby trails to ride on,just parks that have bike loops0 -
How long did you try running for? I'm just wondering whether it's something you might adapt to. Well, I've been wondering that for myself, because I'd like to start running and maybe run in a marathon. I'm very aware that, for myself, there have been quite a few physical activities that I hated at first, but my body adapted to, and I enjoy now. Such as swimming and cycling, and various strength exercises.0
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How long did you try running for? I'm just wondering whether it's something you might adapt to. Well, I've been wondering that for myself, because I'd like to start running and maybe run in a marathon. I'm very aware that, for myself, there have been quite a few physical activities that I hated at first, but my body adapted to, and I enjoy now. Such as swimming and cycling, and various strength exercises.
Jogging I've tried at various points my whole life. The main issue I'm experiencing with it is that the pounding I'm feeling when I'm in a jog prevents me from being able to go for longer than I can when I'm in an all out sprint, about 30 seconds to a minute or so. With a sprint I stop then because I'm out of steam. With a jog it's because the pounding is too much.0 -
I don't own a car so I'd have to take my bicycle on the bus. Very troublesome =( There are no nearby trails to ride on,just parks that have bike loops
that's ok... when we lived in Tucson Az... we didn't have a car for three years... I totally understand taking a bus (did so with three little ones)
you could probably try the bike trails at the parks... we have some lovely greenways around here... and I just do them like 7-10 times when I need miles quick... (we have one that is 1 mile from my house so I can go and get 20 miles in 90 minutes by riding there and then riding it 8 times and riding home...)0 -
Jogging I've tried at various points my whole life. The main issue I'm experiencing with it is that the pounding I'm feeling when I'm in a jog prevents me from being able to go for longer than I can when I'm in an all out sprint, about 30 seconds to a minute or so. With a sprint I stop then because I'm out of steam. With a jog it's because the pounding is too much.
have you tried different inserts in your shoes??
I do something with Chris... I don't even know what to call it... if it has an actual name or something... if he has something that is bugging him sense wise)... I walk him through putting that sense "in a box"... I guess you could call it self hypnosis... I tell him to make a box in his head... and then everything goes in the box until it is just you and whatever you are doing... I talk to him and tell him that things that overwhelm him can just go "in the box"... when we first started doing this it was very difficult to talk him through it... but now that he has been doing it for about 6 years it is much easier and he can do it himself...0 -
I do something with Chris... I don't even know what to call it... if it has an actual name or something... if he has something that is bugging him sense wise)... I walk him through putting that sense "in a box"... I guess you could call it self hypnosis... I tell him to make a box in his head... and then everything goes in the box until it is just you and whatever you are doing... I talk to him and tell him that things that overwhelm him can just go "in the box"... when we first started doing this it was very difficult to talk him through it... but now that he has been doing it for about 6 years it is much easier and he can do it himself...
Out of interest, how does that work with fatigue? I can make myself ignore sensory hypersensitivity and just go ahead and do something, and I used to always do this, and it ended up resulting in severe fatigue. As I've grown older, I've learnt to listen more to my senses and ensure I have a lot of time alone in a non-stimulating environment. Is your son's body not still experiencing the senses at some level?0 -
I just wanted to thank you for posting this thread. My 5 year old son has autism and I am really interested in your experiences.
As for your question, my only suggestion would be to see an Occupational Therapist. I'm always stunned by the wide knowledge they have of so many sensory issues.
Good luck!!0 -
Out of interest, how does that work with fatigue? I can make myself ignore sensory hypersensitivity and just go ahead and do something, and I used to always do this, and it ended up resulting in severe fatigue. As I've grown older, I've learnt to listen more to my senses and ensure I have a lot of time alone in a non-stimulating environment. Is your son's body not still experiencing the senses at some level?
he still does spend a lot of time in a non stimulating environment... and he blocks a lot of visual stuff by wearing dark shades and a hat/helmet... mainly he uses the mental box for times when he CAN NOT get away... for things that are overwhelming to him that he has to do...
he is still very young (12) and has adhd too... so this may not be tiring for him... I will have to ask him when I get home from work0 -
he still does spend a lot of time in a non stimulating environment... and he blocks a lot of visual stuff by wearing dark shades and a hat/helmet... mainly he uses the mental box for times when he CAN NOT get away... for things that are overwhelming to him that he has to do...
he is still very young (12) and has adhd too... so this may not be tiring for him... I will have to ask him when I get home from work
Ah, okay, that makes sense. He may not get fatigue yet anyway - I didn't really get it till adulthood, because I didn't have to use so many strategies as a kid. I could just go into a world of my own and not bother so much with trying to understand the world. And also as a kid I didn't have the self awareness to know when I was tired anyway. I'm impressed you're teaching him so many strategies. That will give him a head start. No one taught me strategies - I had to figure them out for myself by trial and error..0 -
As a NNT adult, I found running to be a problem until I hit up on running in sunglasses in the day of better still, running after dark. And (sad to say) headphones that block out distracting noises and jarring that is heard rather than felt. Compression tops to control jiggling and a loose tee-shirt over that. Running was my special interest for several years before I swapped it to cycling, which doesn’t help as much with stimming but helps prevent meltdowns.
If you can manage to run at max for a minute, and then have to stop, why not 80%max for a minute, then walk for 2 minutes then 80%max for a minute, then walk for 2 minutes then 70% max for a minute. Worked for me, I built up my distance like that. And I eventually was running 35 miles a week0 -
Intervals? That I can do. And about "the box" I can't quite picture what it is you're trying to say.
A lot of therapy techniques people describe to me make no sense as I wasn't diagnosed until adulthood. I had just turned 30. So I don't know a lot about different therapy techniques. I do spend most of my time, or as much as I can anyway, in a non stimulating environment.0 -
Ah, okay, that makes sense. He may not get fatigue yet anyway - I didn't really get it till adulthood, because I didn't have to use so many strategies as a kid. I could just go into a world of my own and not bother so much with trying to understand the world. And also as a kid I didn't have the self awareness to know when I was tired anyway. I'm impressed you're teaching him so many strategies. That will give him a head start. No one taught me strategies - I had to figure them out for myself by trial and error..
one of my jobs going through school (I just graduated nursing school in 2010) was working with the disabilities office as a special tutor because I have a knack for helping people to overcome their issues with school/studying... so I talk to a person and help them figure out exactly what is the reason they are having a hard time and then get over it...
I also think that I have a lot of tendancies that fall near (or on) the spectrum... I am also very ADD but I learned coping skills early on and just deal with it... so I help people learn how to cope with intellectual non-norms
one of the things that his last therapist and I have tried to teach him is self awareness... we do a LOT of discussion about how things affect him... and trying to teach him how to draw conclusions and cause/effect awareness (when I do this/ I feel this... etc)... we have worked with him for about 5 years now on self awareness and self inquiry....And about "the box" I can't quite picture what it is you're trying to say.
basically it is a way of "categorizing" input.... I taught him how to separate the different aspects of the input and then the parts of the input that overwhelm him he "ignores" or puts "in the box"... it is a psuedo biofeedback, self hypnosis sort of thing... when we started... I would have him imagine a box... and we would discribe the box in intricate detail... in all five senses... the size and shape and mass and scent and feel etc of the box (and the lid)... then we would take the input that was overwhelming and mentally "put it in the box" when we first started it would take him 30-45 mins to "get over" the input and "put it in the box" now he can do it in seconds if he is with me or his siblings... and within minutes if he is by himself...
it is a technique that I taught myself in 3rd grade... I would have problems in school during tests... and all of the students would frustrate me and overwhelm me and I couldn't test.... so I figured out how to block out all of the input from the other students/environment... I would build a "box" around myself in my mind... and then the rest of the world would fade away while I took my test... and I went from a failing student to a straight a...0
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