Strength training - need some help

Ok, so I've been reading and reading about this strength training, and I'm eager to give it a go. Strength training sounds much more appealing that sweating my *** off on a treadmill for an hour tbh.

However I have no idea where to start. I have always been told cardio is the way to lose weight, so I'm utterly clueless.

I am a member of a gym, but I'm a bit nervous to go wandering in there as a complete newbie to this and start lifting weights, so ideally I'd like to start with something I can do at home.

I don't know if I need to provide this, but just in case, I am:

5"10
257 lb

Some things to note - I recently suffered a slipped disc so find it difficult to bend at times. I have also recently re-awoken a knee injury due to jumping around like a loon while intoxicated, however this is getting better.

Can anyone help me with a general guide of where to start? I'd like to know what training exactly to do, what sized weights I should be looking at, where I can buy them from, how often I do it and for how long, any useful links, etc etc.

Thanks in advance.

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  • shabaity
    shabaity Posts: 792 Member
    http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2009/12/09/beginner-body-weight-workout-burn-fat-build-muscle/
    love that even if it hurts X.x also talk to a trainer at the gym
  • dlwyatt82
    dlwyatt82 Posts: 1,077 Member
    When you feel up to trying out the free weights in the gym, grab a copy of "Starting Strength" by Mark Rippetoe. It's great for teaching yourself proper form without necessarily needing a coach. In my limited experience, trainers in the gym can be pretty clueless when it comes to correct lifting form.
  • use the people at the gym... that is why u joined and that is why they r there.. i was scared too, but i asked a couple of questions,and viola, i'm i weight lifting machine... lol not quite but i know what to do when i walk up to a machine now... good luck..
  • LoveMyLife_NYC
    LoveMyLife_NYC Posts: 230 Member
    I also have a herniated disc that made it very difficult to move around. My trainer had me do a lot of stretches, as well as exercises to strengthen muscles around the injury without actually moving my back. Are there trainers at your gym? Maybe you could sign up for a session or two to become familiar with the equipment. Since I hired mine, my disc is healing, I'm a lot stronger, more motivated, and I've lost 10 pounds.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    Some things to note - I recently suffered a slipped disc so find it difficult to bend at times. I have also recently re-awoken a knee injury due to jumping around like a loon while intoxicated, however this is getting better.

    Then your first step would be to get approval from your doctor.... find out what kind of restrictions you might have. My husband has a bulging disc in his neck and, at the moment, it's supposed to lift more than 20 pounds.

    After that, get someone on the staff at the gym to show you some basic moves or how to use the machines.
  • dlwyatt82
    dlwyatt82 Posts: 1,077 Member
    When you feel up to trying out the free weights in the gym, grab a copy of "Starting Strength" by Mark Rippetoe. It's great for teaching yourself proper form without necessarily needing a coach. In my limited experience, trainers in the gym can be pretty clueless when it comes to correct lifting form.

    I think he has a few books out, maybe just 1. Isn't that the one with like 100pages on how to do a squat?

    He's got a lot of material out there, in print and online. And yes, Starting Strength goes into crazy details about squat, deadlift, bench press, press and power clean. A lot of it is for trainers, and you'll forget it as soon as you're done reading. I love it for the mental cues, though (when squatting, visualize the bar moving down and up in a completely vertical path, focus on keeping your weight balanced over mid-foot, push your knees out, hips and shoulders explode up together, that kind of thing).
  • Molly182
    Molly182 Posts: 406
    the first time I started strength I did chalean extreme. there's tons of books out there. check some out at the library
  • The military way to do things, is to do them without any use of equipment or external means. What I mean by that, is you can start with push-ups. Even if they are on your knees. Do 100 a day or as many as you can until your arms are rubber. Yes, you will hurt for a week or two after you start but you're moving your own mass and you create your own resistance and it will get easier as you lose weight and burn muscle.
  • vacherin
    vacherin Posts: 192
    I went to a couple of kettlebell classes, then once I'd memorised the moves I bought my own kettlebells and use them at home. They are great! BTW, you don't necessarily HAVE to have weights to do strength training - you can still do lunges, squats, press-ups etc. without them. Just don't use champagne bottles as hand weights. I did that today, and let's just say it didn't end happily.
  • dandelion39
    dandelion39 Posts: 514 Member
    Starting Strength is a good suggestion, or the New Rules of Lifting For Women program, which a lot of women here do (I'm about 2/3 of the way through it right now, and I was a complete newbie to lifting when I started). But if I were you I think I'd try to find a good trainer for a session or two--just so you can get advice on working out safely despite your back issues (and talking to your doctor is a smart idea, too, as someone else mentioned). Good luck! Lifting is so much fun!
  • cjc166
    cjc166 Posts: 222
    Check out this website. It has some really great home strength training information.

    www.scoobysworkshop.com

    And it does have programs specifically for women.
  • lauren3101
    lauren3101 Posts: 1,853 Member
    I've seen the Mark Rippletoe books, however they are expensive - £65!

    Tbh I'm a bit wary of asking the trainers at the gym, as on my induction she told me that I shouldn't be lifting weights at all, only doing cardio exercises to get the figure I want. If she's giving me that kind of advice then I'm a tad worried.
  • This fella, Diamond Dallas had disk injury and came up with a pretty successful program http://www.ddpyoga.com
    I'm going to be grabbing the fountain of youth set myself next payday
  • Carol_L
    Carol_L Posts: 296 Member
    Even if its only once a week for a couple of months, look for a trainer in your local area to work with you on learning proper form for lifting. Given that you have some issues with knees, this is especially important. Unlike a book, a trainer is there to show you how do do something, watch you doing it and correct your form until you are doing it right, advise you on how to modify exercises to accommodate your current issues, and to help you develop a program to strengthen problem areas and improve flexibility and range of motion. A good trainer can also help you dial in your nutrition, because it's just as much of the equation as the exercise.

    Without some kind of mentor in the gym, its very easy to make a lot of mistakes that can discourage you (at best) or injure you (at worst). Poor form, choosing the wrong weights, lack of variety in the exercises being done, not knowing how to set up a machine for your height - these are all things I've done myself and it wasn't pretty. I used to think getting a trainer was something that was too expensive or only for serious athletes. I also thought I was smart enough to do it off of books and websites, and had the results to show for it...NOT. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. Working with a trainer really helped me, and now my time in the gym is more productive and I am getting good results. Just as an aside - I don't do cardio as an exercise....at all. Doing anything consistently for a long duration only makes your body more efficient, which means you require fewer calories to do the same amount of work. Also, cardio doesn't build muscle, which is far more active tissue - more lean muscle mass means your body burns more calories overall, not just when exercising.

    If you can't find a trainer, or don't want to go that direction, I'd recommend the New Rules for Lifting series by Alwyn Cosgrove and Lou Schuler (http://www.thenewrulesoflifting.com/nrol-for-women). They have a sane, sound approach to working your body in an effective, efficient way and provide some good discussions on areas like flexibility and nutrition.
  • ctooch99
    ctooch99 Posts: 459 Member
    I have not read through all the posts on here so if I repeat anyone or contradict anyone directly - apologies.

    Strength training is a combination of weights, body weight exercises and core cardio. There are various programs you can follow to achieve this. I personally have been using P90X since January and it is now the only way I will work out - the gains I have made are the best I have ever made in my life and I am 45 now. I absolutely love it and Tony Horton is awesome.

    You can also look into strength training classes and boot camps if you prefer to work out with others - just make sure there is an element of weight training and body weight training (kettle balls, push ups, burpees, pull ups, lunges, plyometrics).

    My personal feeling is that strict cardio and long distance running is actually more damaging to your health than beneficial, but that is just my personal feeling. There are many super fit MFP members who swear by running and running alone - it has never worked for me and personally I find it boring, tedious, carnivorous to muscle mass and extremely damaging to knees and feet.

    Good luck!
  • 5pmsomewherenow
    5pmsomewherenow Posts: 163 Member
    I suggest on consultation at the gym with a professional. Usually the person in charge of the personal training program will make an appointment with you to discuss your goals, injury limitations, and budget to see if a package of one-on-one personal training or small-group personal training might be of benefit to you. It's really the best way to learn the proper technique and get the most from your membership by getting a plan that will have benefits toward your goals. It's very helpful to get the professional help on the machines, etc... and a written plan you can follow on your own.

    An investment of an hour a week, for say three months, can really set you in the right direction. Then you'll have the confidence and knowledge to do it on your own the other 6 days of the week along with a good prescription for cardio work.

    Stength training really is important for women, and vital to conditioning, metabolism, bone health, balance, and just plain retention of muscle mass -- we lose it fast as we age if we don't "use it." You'll be surprise how much better you feel.

    Once you start to build up some strength, conditioning and stamina -- you can supplement with some of the classes at the gym, too. They can be a little daunting without some basic conditioning and confidence. I'd have never thought I'd try something called "Ripped," or even Zumba.

    Three years ago I signed up for a month at a time of personal trainng for one hour per week. The discounted price for the session was 4 session for $152 (like $38 each) -- I was kinda hesitant to spend the money on top of the gym membership -- but my husband put it this way: "think of it as an investment in your health 401k..." When you look at it like the investment it is, you treat it like something you really commit it, learn from, and USE to change your lifestyle to something more healthy and beneficial to YOU.
  • jmuller06
    jmuller06 Posts: 109 Member
    *bump* This has been my reason for not adding strength training. I have access to a fitness center at work.....free.....and I don't use it. :embarassed:
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2009/12/09/beginner-body-weight-workout-burn-fat-build-muscle/
    love that even if it hurts X.x also talk to a trainer at the gym

    ^^^ This one is great for beginners!
  • dlwyatt82
    dlwyatt82 Posts: 1,077 Member
    I've seen the Mark Rippletoe books, however they are expensive - £65!

    Tbh I'm a bit wary of asking the trainers at the gym, as on my induction she told me that I shouldn't be lifting weights at all, only doing cardio exercises to get the figure I want. If she's giving me that kind of advice then I'm a tad worried.

    The Kindle edition of Starting Strength only cost me like $15, I think. Not sure if the price would be different in GBP.
  • suelegal
    suelegal Posts: 1,281 Member
    Before you start any lifting, please be sure you clear it with your doctor. You don't want to mess up your back more or cause an injury that might become chronic and permanent!

    As others have said there are hundreds of places to start! I'm currently using the program outlined in New Rules of Lifting for Women. I've also looked at StrongLifts, but they are by no means the only true source or the only experts, they are simply sharing their experiences as are the others. Also, take a look at Bodybuilding.com. There's a whole section on beginning weight training.

    I'll emphasize this again. PLEASE go to your doctor and make sure this isn't going to hurt your back!
  • brismom070897
    brismom070897 Posts: 178 Member
    bump
  • suelegal
    suelegal Posts: 1,281 Member
    <snip>
    If you can't find a trainer, or don't want to go that direction, I'd recommend the New Rules for Lifting series by Alwyn Cosgrove and Lou Schuler (http://www.thenewrulesoflifting.com/nrol-for-women). They have a sane, sound approach to working your body in an effective, efficient way and provide some good discussions on areas like flexibility and nutrition.

    There's a NROL4W group here on MFP with some very wonderful women who willingly share their experience with this series!
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/102-new-rules-of-lifting-for-women-nrol4w
  • dlwyatt82
    dlwyatt82 Posts: 1,077 Member
    I've had exactly the opposite experience with personal research (books / videos / etc) versus trainers. If you can find someone who specifically coaches or works with power lifters, you'll probably be in good shape, but the people who just work as "trainers" in your local gym? Good luck. Some of them may be helpful, but so far I haven't found one.

    When I went in for the freebie training session at my gym, I told them right out of the gate that I was there to start lifting with barbells, and that I just wanted help getting my form correct on the big compound lifts. They wasted half the time trying to direct me to the 300 machines around the place, and the other half showing how they knew absolutely nothing about barbell lifting. Here was a gem of a quote when I asked if I was going low enough in my squat, and if my knees were out enough: "I don't care about any of that, as long as your back is straight". Wow, way to make me think it would be worth it to pay actual money for these sessions...