Atkins Diet

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  • hmm33502
    hmm33502 Posts: 201 Member
    As a biased opinion I'd say go simple low carb - less than 100g of carbohydrates a day. Keep your fat intake up as well as your protein. You'll naturally eat the amount of calories you're supposed to.

    To keep it simple: no sugar, no refined carbohydrates, lots of green leafy vegetables, fruit in moderation, heaps of fat and protein.

    Go for it!!
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    ^^ this :)

    Ditto.....this is pretty much what Dukan is about....but eat some fish, it's good for you!
  • taylor5877
    taylor5877 Posts: 1,792 Member
    I have yet to see an atkins diet state to eat 60% of your calories in vegetables and fruits.
    The current price of tea in China is: $ 24975.4/metric ton.

    :laugh:

    The important question of the day is where can you BUY a metric ton of tea directly from China!

    But otherwise, my statement is still relevant. What is the most relevant is that the OP realizes that any particular diet plan is POINTLESS unless it is one he can stick with for life. Finding a diet composition that suits his lifestyle and desires is what will result in meaningful long term goals.

    Despite how we may feel, Bruce's "Fish Are Friends" diet plan in Nemo will not get him to his weight loss goals. Diet adherence is the #1 important thing.

    for the record, I agree that protein % is important to a lot of folks for weight loss. I personally like 30%-40% protein in my diet. I go well over my fiber totals on usually around or less than 200g carbs/day. I eat foods similar to the foods the Atkins diet maintenance diet recommends.

    If you do the diet like the book describes, it's not what people think and isn't terrible. Almost no one does the maintenance right though.
  • DanaDark
    DanaDark Posts: 2,187 Member
    I LIVED THE LIFESTYLE MYSELF FOR MORE THAN 7 YEARS. I know this plan inside and out. I ate more than 8 servings of vegetables EVERYDAY. Then I added in some fruits for dessert.

    For Phase 1, this is the strictest phase that lasts for only 2 weeks, you eat protein, fat and green leafy vegetables and eat until you are full.

    If you have read any BOOKS about the plan you would know it is recommended that you snack on fresh, raw vegetables, which ups your servings of vegetables right there.

    I am not reading anything into your comment. It is straight forward, so no need to read anything into it.

    You posted an outright LIE about a plan that has helped many, many people to live a HEALTHY, WHOLE FOODS LIFESTYLE!!!

    And for the record, I am no fanboy......................I am a grown woman.

    1. 7 years and you're still on MFP with weight loss goals? Sounds like a super good working plan there tiger.

    2. Define "many", I want an exact number, not a completely vague term. To some, many can be just 2. Don't spout out numeric definitions without having the numbers to back them up.

    3. And I didn't post any lie thank you. It is lower in fruits and vegetables than the recommended diet provided by the FDA and Department of Health.

    4. You also seem to think I said it doesn't work. I outlined the type of people it works BEST for. As I noted the main issue of dietary adherence being much more important than only simple composition.

    5. A grown woman should be able to recognize where the caps lock is, it is a pretty large button relative to the rest of the keyboard.
  • hmm33502
    hmm33502 Posts: 201 Member
    As a biased opinion I'd say go simple low carb - less than 100g of carbohydrates a day. Keep your fat intake up as well as your protein. You'll naturally eat the amount of calories you're supposed to.

    To keep it simple: no sugar, no refined carbohydrates, lots of green leafy vegetables, fruit in moderation, heaps of fat and protein.

    Go for it!!
    .


    ^^ this :)

    Ditto.....this is pretty much what Dukan is about....but eat some fish, it's good for you! Except for the heaps of fat, the focus is on lean protein....and LOTS of Veggies, but no starchy veggies.
  • RainHoward
    RainHoward Posts: 1,599 Member
    The first thing you should do (in my humble opinion) is do away with any notion that this, or anything else you do, is simply a "diet". For you to be successful it needs to be a lifestyle change. A change in the way you think about food, personal health and exercise. It's all connected. If you can live on the Atkins plan and it works for you then by all means, go for it.

    My personal experience with the Atkins "diet" was that it worked great for the first 3 months and then I got sick. I was constantly nauseated, in the bathroom and had zero energy. I added back carbs and felt much better. My body did not like it at all. But that's just me. I have heard of it working very well for certain people. Just stay away from the gimmicky crap they try and sell you.
  • ladybarometer
    ladybarometer Posts: 205 Member
    Atkims made me feel greasy lol! And I can't sustain it so, I dropped it.
  • cjc166
    cjc166 Posts: 222
    You can lose weight on Atkins quite well, but the long term health is not so good.
    I did Atkins twice, with short term success.

    Look into Eat to Live by Dr. Fuhrman. I've been doing it for the past 6 weeks and have lost 28 lbs since starting. It's also extremely healthy in the long term. Worth checking out at least.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    Why does anyone have to choose a dieting method that they can "live with forever" ? Having learned their lesson I don't see why someone might use one technique to lose 50 lbs of excess fat in say 12 months and then adopt a different technique for maintenance.
  • DanaDark
    DanaDark Posts: 2,187 Member
    The first thing you should do (in my humble opinion) is do away with any notion that this, or anything else you do, is simply a "diet". For you to be successful it needs to be a lifestyle change. A change in the way you think about food, personal health and exercise. It's all connected. If you can live on the Atkins plan and it works for you then by all means, go for it.

    My personal experience with the Atkins "diet" was that it worked great for the first 3 months and then I got sick. I was constantly nauseated, in the bathroom and had zero energy. I added back carbs and felt much better. My body did not like it at all. But that's just me. I have heard of it working very well for certain people. Just stay away from the gimmicky crap they try and sell you.

    This. Definitely.

    Stick to your plan. Make it a lifestyle change. Avoid gimicky stuff (if the food as atkins on the label, run away). And adjust according to your body. Fat loss should NOT make you feel excessively tired, cranky, or other adverse health effects.

    And yes, all diet plans can work for people that are already inclined to lean that way naturally.
  • RainHoward
    RainHoward Posts: 1,599 Member
    You can lose weight on Atkins quite well, but the long term health is not so good.
    I did Atkins twice, with short term success.

    Look into Eat to Live by Dr. Fuhrman. I've been doing it for the past 6 weeks and have lost 28 lbs since starting. It's also extremely healthy in the long term. Worth checking out at least.
    I bought that quacks book, mostly out of curiosity. I want my money back. I knew better too.
  • cjc166
    cjc166 Posts: 222
    You can lose weight on Atkins quite well, but the long term health is not so good.
    I did Atkins twice, with short term success.

    Look into Eat to Live by Dr. Fuhrman. I've been doing it for the past 6 weeks and have lost 28 lbs since starting. It's also extremely healthy in the long term. Worth checking out at least.
    I bought that quacks book, mostly out of curiosity. I want my money back. I knew better too.

    If you haven't done the first 6 weeks, how can you judge? A doctor who consistently reverses heart disease, diabetes, and other chronic diseases through dietary intervention is nothing to be scoffed at. Please qualify your comments instead of trolling.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    You can lose weight on Atkins quite well, but the long term health is not so good.
    I did Atkins twice, with short term success.

    Look into Eat to Live by Dr. Fuhrman. I've been doing it for the past 6 weeks and have lost 28 lbs since starting. It's also extremely healthy in the long term. Worth checking out at least.

    I don't see how long term health isn't good with Atkins????

    Explain how that is the case when my blood and lipid markers were and are still stellar and I eat more fat now than I did on Atkins lifestyle.

    My health just gets increasingly better.
  • DanaDark
    DanaDark Posts: 2,187 Member
    I don't see how long term health isn't good with Atkins????

    Explain how that is the case when my blood and lipid markers were and are still stellar and I eat more fat now than I did on Atkins lifestyle.

    My health just gets increasingly better.

    Eating more fat isn't exactly bad. Only thing I'd be concerned with is having excessive amounts of protein (significantly more than required) can adversely affect the kidneys.

    So long as you get enough vitamins and minerals in your diet as well as an adequate amount of protein, you should be fine.

    Some worries with many low-carb diets is the increased difficulty of getting the proper nutrients, but when done, should be overall fine.
  • cjc166
    cjc166 Posts: 222
    You can lose weight on Atkins quite well, but the long term health is not so good.
    I did Atkins twice, with short term success.

    Look into Eat to Live by Dr. Fuhrman. I've been doing it for the past 6 weeks and have lost 28 lbs since starting. It's also extremely healthy in the long term. Worth checking out at least.

    I don't see how long term health isn't good with Atkins????

    Explain how that is the case when my blood and lipid markers were and are still stellar and I eat more fat now than I did on Atkins lifestyle.

    My health just gets increasingly better.

    Certainly, when compared to the Standard American Diet, Atkins is going to be better, and you should see an improvement in health when comparing the two. Being a healthy weight is certainly a big plus. Not everyone who smokes gets cancer either, and I know a lot of perfectly healthy smokers.

    However, there is a high correlation between animal protein consumption and cancer, heart disease, osteoperosis, decreased longevity and many other chronic diseases. Does this mean that it will happen to everyone? Certainly not, but it increases the risk significantly at consumption levels of over 10% of total calories. This is outlined in tons of medical literature, and is the general consensus of most research.
  • taylor5877
    taylor5877 Posts: 1,792 Member
    However, there is a high correlation between animal protein consumption and cancer, heart disease, osteoperosis, decreased longevity and many other chronic diseases

    Sources please...
  • cjc166
    cjc166 Posts: 222
    However, there is a high correlation between animal protein consumption and cancer, heart disease, osteoperosis, decreased longevity and many other chronic diseases

    Sources please...

    The China Study by Dr. Campbell is the most obvious source.
    Also, if you read Eat to Live by Dr. Fuhrman, everything is sourced. It's a very long list.
  • taylor5877
    taylor5877 Posts: 1,792 Member
    Reeks of biased scare tactic...
  • cjc166
    cjc166 Posts: 222
    Reeks of biased scare tactic...
    You ask me for sources and then dismiss without reading or considering? It appears you weren't really interested in sources.
  • afcgirl
    afcgirl Posts: 31 Member
    I have been doing Atkins/low carbing for at least five years.

    I am and have been in the best shape of my life, even after having two kids. I weigh the same that I did in high school and I am now in my 40s. I am 5'8" and weigh 125-128 pounds. Even the shape of my body improved (from the increase in protein). I also jog and do weight training 5 days a week.

    I have a family history of heart disease, diabetes, high cholesterol and I have none of that. My blood tests have been perfect. Many of my doctor friends eat low carb.

    I use myfitnesspal as a tool so that I can maintain my health and fitness goals. It is not a sign that Atkins doesn't work.

    I eat much more healthy now than when I did weightwatchers. On WW I ate fat free hotdogs, potatoes, low fat popcorn, WW meals (i.e., junk). Now I eat chicken, eggs, salads, steak, veggies, berries. Less processed foods. I am not knocking WW, I am sure others eat much more healthy on WW than I did.

    I have greatly reduced my binge eating and feel better mentally.

    I write this because Atkins improved my life and want to let others know it could improve theirs. I am fine if others do not agree. I don't understand the hostility towards the Atkins lifestyle but to each his own. For those that prefer low fat eating or WW, I am happy for you that you found something that works for you. Just keep an eye on the more current studies about avoiding diabetes, heart disease and cancer.
  • cjc166
    cjc166 Posts: 222
    I write this because Atkins improved my life and want to let others know it could improve theirs. I am fine if others do not agree. I don't understand the hostility towards the Atkins lifestyle but to each his own. For those that prefer low fat eating or WW, I am happy for you that you found something that works for you. Just keep an eye on the more current studies about avoiding diabetes, heart disease and cancer.

    I'm certain Atkins can improve someone's quality of life and is healthier than WW or low-fat diets.
    However, I have not seen any cases where Atkins has reversed heart disease, and doubly so in patients who have had bypasses and stints put in. There are diets out there that do cause complete reversal of heart disease at that stage, Atkins is NOT one of them.
  • lolabluola
    lolabluola Posts: 212 Member
    Yes, I lost weight but I think my cholesterol went up. That diet has ALOT of meat and and unless you only eat fish I think it might be bad for your heart.

    It's not; common misconception.

    I don't eat any more meat than I used too ... I just don't have the junk food and I swap out the starchy sides for more veggies ... you don't have to have a ton of meat on the diet really ...

    Did it work for you??? If you like it - could do it - then try it

    But you stopped before so maybe you didn't really enjoy it very much?
  • DanaDark
    DanaDark Posts: 2,187 Member
    But you stopped before so maybe you didn't really enjoy it very much?

    This, for every plan.
  • Umm...well I use the atkins endulge bars as treats...:) but not as a diet. like meal-replacements. I eat natural foods all the time, and atkins bars every now and then. but be aware! they are full of chemicals!!!
  • vytamindi
    vytamindi Posts: 845 Member
    Umm...well I use the atkins endulge bars as treats...:) but not as a diet. like meal-replacements. I eat natural foods all the time, and atkins bars every now and then. but be aware! they are full of chemicals!!!

    Frankenfoooooooooooooood....OoOoOoOo.... *shuffles off into the distance*
  • taylor5877
    taylor5877 Posts: 1,792 Member
    Reeks of biased scare tactic...
    You ask me for sources and then dismiss without reading or considering? It appears you weren't really interested in sources.

    My problem is lumping all animal protein together. I've not (and looking for a plethera here) seen sources that say fish (particular those high in omega 3's) or dairy significantly increase cancer risks and cardiovascular disease.

    Red meat singled out I wouldn't have a problem with the original quoted statement.
  • Yukon_Jack
    Yukon_Jack Posts: 19 Member
    I didn't think this would be such a long thread when I posted it! I see opinions from both ends of the spectrum as well as in the middle.
    I think for me personally I will just cut out most processed food and white flour (I eat very little sugar anyways).
    I know that the Atkins will help you lose weight but , again, for me personally I find it too restrictive. I do jog about 2 miles every other day and along with this website and the community, I know I will reach my goal by the end of December. Thanks again!
  • vytamindi
    vytamindi Posts: 845 Member
    I didn't think this would be such a long thread when I posted it! I see opinions from both ends of the spectrum as well as in the middle.
    I think for me personally I will just cut out most processed food and white flour (I eat very little sugar anyways).
    I know that the Atkins will help you lose weight but , again, for me personally I find it too restrictive. I do jog about 2 miles every other day and along with this website and the community, I know I will reach my goal by the end of December. Thanks again!

    Best of luck! Fight the good fight :)
  • wftiger
    wftiger Posts: 1,283 Member
    Better idea -- http://www.marksdailyapple.com

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  • wftiger
    wftiger Posts: 1,283 Member
    Yes, I lost weight but I think my cholesterol went up. That diet has ALOT of meat and and unless you only eat fish I think it might be bad for your heart.

    You "think" your cholesterol went up but didn't check? Just to add my 2 cents, I have been on Primal (again better then Atkins IMHO) for 9 months. My lipids are half what there were in Nov. 2011 (except HDL which has gone up 6 points but that was likely the exercise doing that), I am off 3 of 4 blood pressure medicines and my blood sugar is in the normal range where I was pre-diabetic before.

    FYI -- I am lucky to eat fish once a month and if I do that I fry that crap in oil first. :-) Give me bacon any day.