SUGAR QUESTION!!

I started trying to watch my sodium & sugar intake ontop of calories, fat, and fiber, and am a little frustrated. I do fine with everything except sugar!! Today for example I am already over my sugar allowance and still have 700 calories left. I thought fruit is supposed to be healthy, but it is actually very high in sugar :-( I had 2 peaches today (my current fruit obsession :-) and found out after that they are 15g of sugar each!! I am a big candy-lover, but am not eating it anymore because it's bad for me... so instead I eat quite a bit of fruit to help with my cravings.

I guess what I am wondering is... how important is it to stay within your sugar limit? and how does it affect weight loss??
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  • _granola
    _granola Posts: 326
    The sugar limit used here is based on the limit the USDA recommends for added sugars (so does not include sugar from fruit). It's a pretty useless thing to track here.
  • 126siany
    126siany Posts: 1,386 Member
    I am always over on sugar, mainly from dairy products. I don't track my sugar at all.

    It's best to try to stay away from added sugars, but I really don't worry much about naturally occurring sugars. Naturally ocurring sugars are also coming with lots of macro and micronutrients, whereas added sugars are coming with very little nutrition.

    It won't affect your weight loss if you stay within your calorie goal.
  • JudyL5305
    JudyL5305 Posts: 196 Member
    There is a big difference in candy sugar and fruit sugar. Sugar in fruit is natural (fructose) and sugar in candy is processed (sucrose). Your body will break down fructose much easier than sucrose.

    Here is a good article for you. Hope this helps.
    http://www.livestrong.com/article/540374-refined-sugar-vs-fructose/
  • hottottie11
    hottottie11 Posts: 907 Member
    I set my sugar to 1000 grams...that way I'm never over:devil:
  • Thanks everyone :-) Now I feel like I can stop stressing!!
  • tommygirl15
    tommygirl15 Posts: 1,012 Member
    Good for you on giving up candy. I'm a huge candy lover myself so I know how hard it is!

    Never feel bad for going over on sugar because of fruit. Fruits are full of nutrition! Not a single empty calorie there.
  • mheath1293
    mheath1293 Posts: 35 Member
    Thanks for posting this! I was pretty worried about my sugar intake too. It's been way high, but mainly from fruits and and things like sweet potato.
  • beckajw
    beckajw Posts: 1,728 Member
    I started trying to watch my sodium & sugar intake ontop of calories, fat, and fiber, and am a little frustrated. I do fine with everything except sugar!! Today for example I am already over my sugar allowance and still have 700 calories left. I thought fruit is supposed to be healthy, but it is actually very high in sugar :-( I had 2 peaches today (my current fruit obsession :-) and found out after that they are 15g of sugar each!! I am a big candy-lover, but am not eating it anymore because it's bad for me... so instead I eat quite a bit of fruit to help with my cravings.

    I guess what I am wondering is... how important is it to stay within your sugar limit? and how does it affect weight loss??

    Sugar is not unhealthy. There is no reason to track your sugar, unless you're eating twinkies and muffins all day.
  • mrskatie80
    mrskatie80 Posts: 133 Member
    After reading David Gillespie's book 'Sweet Poison' last night on sugar and it's effects, I am making a CONCERTED effort to cut down on my sugar intake - added AND natural (and I DON'T use artificial - EVER....or Stevia, it's GROSS (in my opinion of course, I'm sure millions will disagree with me).

    So in my quest for lower sugar and after researching guidelines etc, I have decided on the following changes;

    * set my MFP sugar levels to 100g per day (as there is no differentiation between natural and added)
    * limit my ADDED sugars to an AVERAGE (over the week) of 10g per day or less (I have planned my day and at 5.1g). The maximum per day I'm allowing is 20g.

    That's it. I'm going to try it for a month and see how I go.

    So far today, if I stick to the plan, I am at 5.1g added sugar and 29g total combined sugars.

    BRING IT ON!!
  • art3mislecter
    art3mislecter Posts: 57 Member
    I'm glad this was posted. I was confused a bit, too-- I LOVE apples and grapes.
  • lj4n
    lj4n Posts: 8 Member
    Strangely, eating a nice big juicy dill pickle will take away a craving for sweets!
  • viad25720
    viad25720 Posts: 57 Member
    I actually had watched a show that expressed the more sugar you eat, the worse/more you crave. I had a HUGE sweets problem. Chocolate, cake, candy, you name it I could eat 6 servings worth for breakfast! What did I do? I went cold turkey except sugar in my coffee n natural sugar. I had a headache first 3 days, but feel great now, and agree I think of it n crave it much less. True test:TOM! It's coming up. Hope this helps.
  • I'm sorry Beckajw sugar is very unhealthy. Studies are proving this. Refined sugar. In terms of weight loss even having too much fruit can hinder weight loss.

    http://www.charlespoliquin.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/903/Is_Sugar_More_Trouble_Than_Its_Worth.aspx

    Especially if you eat it at night it will store as fat. The best time to eat fruit is before or after a workout when if combined with protein will push the protein into the muscle. Certain fruit like berries, cherries, and blackberries/raspberries are lowest in sugar. Think dark berries. Check out my blog I have a lot of weight loss tips that are based on science not personal opinions. I've lost 85 pounds.

    inspiredfitchick.com

    Good luck and much health to you
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    There is a big difference in candy sugar and fruit sugar. Sugar in fruit is natural (fructose) and sugar in candy is processed (sucrose). Your body will break down fructose much easier than sucrose.

    Here is a good article for you. Hope this helps.
    http://www.livestrong.com/article/540374-refined-sugar-vs-fructose/
    That's actually not true. Most fruit has large amounts of sucrose in it. Also, sucrose is made up of glucose and fructose. The human body has a specific enzyme (called sucrase) that's entire job in your digestive system is to break sucrose into its separate glucose and fructose molecules. The human body is actually incredibly inefficient at digesting fructose alone, but is incredibly efficient at digesting free glucose, and can also very efficiently process fructose when it is paired with glucose (which it almost always is.)

    As for the original question, if you are honest with your overall calorie consumption, and getting enough protein and fat, sugar does not matter at all, unless you are diabetic, or have another metabolic dysfunction that affects sugar digestion.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    I'm sorry Beckajw sugar is very unhealthy. Studies are proving this. Refined sugar. In terms of weight loss even having too much fruit can hinder weight loss.

    http://www.charlespoliquin.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/903/Is_Sugar_More_Trouble_Than_Its_Worth.aspx

    Especially if you eat it at night it will store as fat. The best time to eat fruit is before or after a workout when if combined with protein will push the protein into the muscle. Certain fruit like berries, cherries, and blackberries/raspberries are lowest in sugar. Think dark berries. Check out my blog I have a lot of weight loss tips that are based on science not personal opinions. I've lost 85 pounds.

    inspiredfitchick.com

    Good luck and much health to you

    Actually, sugar is almost never stored as fat. You would need to eat several hundred grams of sugar in a day in order for the human body to start converting it to fat, it burns it way too quickly for it to hang around. As for studies, there are thousands of studies showing that sugar has zero effect on health and weight management. Try reading actual studies, rather than articles, which may have certain biases in them. Especially articles that refer to studies, make claims about studies, but don't actually cite the studies for you to look up for yourself.
  • linksep
    linksep Posts: 4
    Our bodies are genetically programmed to love sugar, not because carbs are good for us but because fruit has vitamins in it!

    Skip the fruit & take a multivitamin supplement and watch the pounds melt off, then please watch the movie "Fat-Head" on Hulu or Netflix, it does a much better job explaining than I ever could. I'm down a very healthy 25 lbs in 23 weeks after watching "Fat-Head".

    I wanted to exercise but haven't really gotten around to it, the only changes I have made are to reduce my food-carb intake to 1/4th of what it used to be and I switched from beer to vodka for my alcohol intake (less carbs).

    I do still eat bread (such a good delivery vehicle for meat) and I haven't ever paid attention to fat or calories, but with these relatively minor lifestyle changes I'm loosing right around 1lb/week. Asking "can I substitute broccoli in place of the fries" takes way less effort than 3-5 hours a week at the gym and 20 minutes of daily calorie tracking.
  • @Tigerword that is incorrect. If you had bothered to read the article it would tell you that the information in this article is referring to the study which was done in the European Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
    Glucose is the sugar that is turned into glycogen and stored in the cells for energy or it there is too much it is turned into fat.
    Your information is outdated.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    @Tigerword that is incorrect. If you had bothered to read the article it would tell you that the information in this article is referring to the study which was done in the European Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
    Glucose is the sugar that is turned into glycogen and stored in the cells for energy or it there is too much it is turned into fat.
    Your information is outdated.
    The human body stores roughly 2-3 pounds of glycogen when completely full. That's about 900-1350 grams of glycogen. Unless you are in a coma and not moving, you are constantly burning glycogen, stores are almost never full. Even when burning fat, the body has to burn glycogen to facilitate fat burning.

    Also, I was unaware that the European Journal of Clinical Nutrition has only published ONE study in its entire existence. Throwing out a name of a journal, is not citing a study. Citing a study is giving the title, source, and date of publication of the study, in addition to the authors, in order to allow the reader to look up said study, rather than having to blindly guess as to which study, in the decades of studies from a publication to look in. Modern articles, particularly Internet articles, should provide links to actual studies, as a good amount of them are published online nowadays. Go ahead and read an article by Alan Aragon or Lyle McDonald if you want to see what I mean by, "citing a study."
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Our bodies are genetically programmed to love sugar, not because carbs are good for us but because fruit has vitamins in it!

    Skip the fruit & take a multivitamin supplement and watch the pounds melt off, then please watch the movie "Fat-Head" on Hulu or Netflix, it does a much better job explaining than I ever could. I'm down a very healthy 25 lbs in 23 weeks after watching "Fat-Head".

    I wanted to exercise but haven't really gotten around to it, the only changes I have made are to reduce my food-carb intake to 1/4th of what it used to be and I switched from beer to vodka for my alcohol intake (less carbs).

    I do still eat bread (such a good delivery vehicle for meat) and I haven't ever paid attention to fat or calories, but with these relatively minor lifestyle changes I'm loosing right around 1lb/week. Asking "can I substitute broccoli in place of the fries" takes way less effort than 3-5 hours a week at the gym and 20 minutes of daily calorie tracking.
    You do realize you are losing weight solely because you've cut calories, right? If you've gone from (for example) 200 grams of carbs a day to 50 grams a day, that's cutting 600 calories a day. If you had cut 75% of your protein or fat consumption, you would've had the same results.

    Haven't watched Fat-Head, but any documentary that recommends taking supplements instead of eating actual food is 100% wrong. Calories make people gain and lose weight, not sugar or fruit.
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
    Our bodies are genetically programmed to love sugar, not because carbs are good for us but because fruit has vitamins in it!

    Skip the fruit & take a multivitamin supplement and watch the pounds melt off, then please watch the movie "Fat-Head" on Hulu or Netflix, it does a much better job explaining than I ever could. I'm down a very healthy 25 lbs in 23 weeks after watching "Fat-Head".

    I wanted to exercise but haven't really gotten around to it, the only changes I have made are to reduce my food-carb intake to 1/4th of what it used to be and I switched from beer to vodka for my alcohol intake (less carbs).

    I do still eat bread (such a good delivery vehicle for meat) and I haven't ever paid attention to fat or calories, but with these relatively minor lifestyle changes I'm loosing right around 1lb/week. Asking "can I substitute broccoli in place of the fries" takes way less effort than 3-5 hours a week at the gym and 20 minutes of daily calorie tracking.
    You do realize you are losing weight solely because you've cut calories, right? If you've gone from (for example) 200 grams of carbs a day to 50 grams a day, that's cutting 600 calories a day. If you had cut 75% of your protein or fat consumption, you would've had the same results.

    Haven't watched Fat-Head, but any documentary that recommends taking supplements instead of eating actual food is 100% wrong. Calories make people gain and lose weight, not sugar or fruit.

    ^ More people need to listen to this guy.
  • nursenessa1
    nursenessa1 Posts: 182 Member
    I set my sugar to 1000 grams...that way I'm never over:devil:

    Pucking Genius. :love: :love:
  • nursenessa1
    nursenessa1 Posts: 182 Member
    OH! Nerd fight!!! Getting popcorn.....
  • tsh0ck
    tsh0ck Posts: 1,970 Member
    Our bodies are genetically programmed to love sugar, not because carbs are good for us but because fruit has vitamins in it!

    Skip the fruit & take a multivitamin supplement and watch the pounds melt off, then please watch the movie "Fat-Head" on Hulu or Netflix, it does a much better job explaining than I ever could. I'm down a very healthy 25 lbs in 23 weeks after watching "Fat-Head".

    I wanted to exercise but haven't really gotten around to it, the only changes I have made are to reduce my food-carb intake to 1/4th of what it used to be and I switched from beer to vodka for my alcohol intake (less carbs).

    I do still eat bread (such a good delivery vehicle for meat) and I haven't ever paid attention to fat or calories, but with these relatively minor lifestyle changes I'm loosing right around 1lb/week. Asking "can I substitute broccoli in place of the fries" takes way less effort than 3-5 hours a week at the gym and 20 minutes of daily calorie tracking.
    You do realize you are losing weight solely because you've cut calories, right? If you've gone from (for example) 200 grams of carbs a day to 50 grams a day, that's cutting 600 calories a day. If you had cut 75% of your protein or fat consumption, you would've had the same results.

    Haven't watched Fat-Head, but any documentary that recommends taking supplements instead of eating actual food is 100% wrong. Calories make people gain and lose weight, not sugar or fruit.

    ^ More people need to listen to this guy.

    if there were a best fitness and nutrition expert list here, the man would be at or near the top.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Our bodies are genetically programmed to love sugar, not because carbs are good for us but because fruit has vitamins in it!

    Skip the fruit & take a multivitamin supplement and watch the pounds melt off, then please watch the movie "Fat-Head" on Hulu or Netflix, it does a much better job explaining than I ever could. I'm down a very healthy 25 lbs in 23 weeks after watching "Fat-Head".

    I wanted to exercise but haven't really gotten around to it, the only changes I have made are to reduce my food-carb intake to 1/4th of what it used to be and I switched from beer to vodka for my alcohol intake (less carbs).

    I do still eat bread (such a good delivery vehicle for meat) and I haven't ever paid attention to fat or calories, but with these relatively minor lifestyle changes I'm loosing right around 1lb/week. Asking "can I substitute broccoli in place of the fries" takes way less effort than 3-5 hours a week at the gym and 20 minutes of daily calorie tracking.
    You do realize you are losing weight solely because you've cut calories, right? If you've gone from (for example) 200 grams of carbs a day to 50 grams a day, that's cutting 600 calories a day. If you had cut 75% of your protein or fat consumption, you would've had the same results.

    Haven't watched Fat-Head, but any documentary that recommends taking supplements instead of eating actual food is 100% wrong. Calories make people gain and lose weight, not sugar or fruit.

    ^ More people need to listen to this guy.

    ^^this
  • linksep
    linksep Posts: 4
    You do realize you are losing weight solely because you've cut calories, right? If you've gone from (for example) 200 grams of carbs a day to 50 grams a day, that's cutting 600 calories a day. If you had cut 75% of your protein or fat consumption, you would've had the same results.

    Haven't watched Fat-Head, but any documentary that recommends taking supplements instead of eating actual food is 100% wrong. Calories make people gain and lose weight, not sugar or fruit.

    No, I have actually increased calories, but I have lowered insulin by lowering carbs in any form.

    Fat-Head doesn't advocate taking a vitamin instead of fruit, that's my suggestion because fruit has lots of sugar and vitamins... sugar is the devil and vitamins are good so how do you get vitamins without sugar.........

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNYlIcXynwE
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    You do realize you are losing weight solely because you've cut calories, right? If you've gone from (for example) 200 grams of carbs a day to 50 grams a day, that's cutting 600 calories a day. If you had cut 75% of your protein or fat consumption, you would've had the same results.

    Haven't watched Fat-Head, but any documentary that recommends taking supplements instead of eating actual food is 100% wrong. Calories make people gain and lose weight, not sugar or fruit.

    No, I have actually increased calories, but I have lowered insulin by lowering carbs in any form.

    Fat-Head doesn't advocate taking a vitamin instead of fruit, that's my suggestion because fruit has lots of sugar and vitamins... sugar is the devil and vitamins are good so how do you get vitamins without sugar.........

    lolz
  • beckajw
    beckajw Posts: 1,728 Member
    You do realize you are losing weight solely because you've cut calories, right? If you've gone from (for example) 200 grams of carbs a day to 50 grams a day, that's cutting 600 calories a day. If you had cut 75% of your protein or fat consumption, you would've had the same results.

    Haven't watched Fat-Head, but any documentary that recommends taking supplements instead of eating actual food is 100% wrong. Calories make people gain and lose weight, not sugar or fruit.

    No, I have actually increased calories, but I have lowered insulin by lowering carbs in any form.

    Fat-Head doesn't advocate taking a vitamin instead of fruit, that's my suggestion because fruit has lots of sugar and vitamins... sugar is the devil and vitamins are good so how do you get vitamins without sugar.........

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNYlIcXynwE


    :laugh: sugar is the devil :laugh:
  • Although this particular article does not list the specific study Charles Poliquin lists science based studies in his other articles. Charles Poliquin is an elite athlete coach that trains Olympic and professional athletes. He stays up to date with the latest scientific studies. So I think unless your name is Google or you have credentials to boot I am going to follow his advice thanks.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Although this particular article does not list the specific study Charles Poliquin lists science based studies in his other articles. Charles Poliquin is an elite athlete coach that trains Olympic and professional athletes. He stays up to date with the latest scientific studies. So I think unless your name is Google or you have credentials to boot I am going to follow his advice thanks.


    Could you refer us to these other articles then please where science based studies are listed please.

    Also, I would not be taking advice from Google which is a company and not a scientist. What are Charles Poliquin credientials with respect to nutrition?. He is a strength trainer, not a nutritionist. I am also always more sceptical of someone who sells their own products and supplements while slamming whole food groups.
  • mkbledsoe
    mkbledsoe Posts: 132
    I don't concern myself with the sugar in fruits, I only watch added sugar, which has absolutely no nutritional value whatsoever. You will find when you start checking labels that sugar and corn syrup seem to have been added to everything.