FUN FRIDAY MFP DEBATE: PRENUPS!
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I had just about nothing and a 30k a year job when we got married. No need for one.
If I had a family fortune or say a house or two that I OWNED, not paying 99% interest on, sure might be a good reason to have one.0 -
It's between the two people getting married. It's nobody else's place to suggest they get one, particularly the groom's parents, and especially when I make more than he does...
wait, now it's getting personal. Carry on....0 -
I have to sign one to marry my current boyfriend. Well, it' s a condition he's making for us to get married. He's made it known from day one that I will have to sign one. Now, whether I will or not and he's just all pissy from his divorce, I don't know. But I'm okay with signing one.0
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I think it depends on the situation. For my husband and I, no, we don't need one. But someone else may feel they do, and if they feel that way, they should get one!0
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It's between the two people getting married. It's nobody else's place to suggest they get one, particularly the groom's parents, and especially when I make more than he does...
wait, now it's getting personal. Carry on....
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In a way I see it as a set up for failure. That being said.....**** happens, and if you have a ton of money going in that you worked your *kitten* off for....protect it.0
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half of nothing is still nothing..0
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I agree... they do suck the romance out of it, but it adds security. Love and bliss is all good and dandy but you never know what could happen.
If I had anything to protect I'd get one, but by the time the man and I get married everything I have will really have been built by both of us anyway so it'd be silly.0 -
Eh if I actually had assets or a large salary I would require one. However unless I win the lottery soon that aint happening lol.0
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I'm torn on this one. The divorce rate is so high, but at the same time, I would hate going into a marriage planning for failure.
I would also hate to lose all my stuff.0 -
normal, everyday people...don't see the point. If I was loaded, then yes...if he is loaded, then no :drinker:0
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I'm not sentimental and I don't think that having one means you're setting yourselves up to eventually divorce, I think it's just practical. So many marriages end in divorce, why not be prepared by doing a relatively small amount of paperwork now to avoid potentially a TON of paperwork and court time later?
I'm getting married next June and my fiance and I are seriously considering it. We both make about the same amount now, and we don't have a house yet, but laying out some parameters is just prudent. For example, any assets I have now in my own accounts will be kept as such, and will go with me in the event of divorce. Any shared accounts that we set up will be split equally. Any shared assets such as a house will be determined at the time of purchase and the prenup will be amended to reflect our plans for said assets. In the event that one of us stops contributing to the joint assets, like if one of us stops working in order to raise our future children, we will also amend the prenup at that time.
It's kind of a pain to meet with lawyers, but with some advanced planning and discussion it can be a pretty simple process. And then you've both demonstrated that you can have an adult, mature conversation about money. Money is, after all, the #1 cause of fights between couples. So you should be able to talk about it with each other openly if you're going to spend the rest of your lives together.0 -
That's why I got married straight out of college--didn't need one. :laugh:
I think it depends on the mentality of both parties. I view marriage as a lifelong partnership that WILL be hard and WILL take work, for which divorce is only an option in extreme cases (cheating, abuse, etc.). In that case, I see prenups as moot. While I would like to say that everyone who decides to marry knows their partner enough to judge the likelihood of those extremes actually occuring, sadly, human nature is not that reliable...
So I'd say if there are extreme wealth/income disparities and both parties acknowledge the possibility of divorce (however remote), then sure. Agree with others though--it's a decision for the two getting married, not their families.0 -
normal, everyday people...don't see the point. If I was loaded, then yes...if he is loaded, then no :drinker:
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I am not loaded.
I would get one. Love don't pay the bills.0 -
Hmmm.... Well, a few years ago, I would have said NO WAY, that is ridiculous, you should share everything. BUT, after being with my current boyfriend, I have definitely had a change of heart and would be more than willing to sign one for him. And yes, I already know he will have me sign one (if we were to get married). He's not stupid.0
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I'm also torn on this subject. I personally didn't feel I needed one, but I can see where a wealthy person may want one, because, unfortunately there are a lot of shallow people out there that will marry someone just for money.0
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i see it this way - the act of "getting married" is the act of entering a contract. if one or both parties think that additions need to be made to the contract, then that's fine. work it out so that both parties are in agreement and sign. i think that if you think it's too "unromantic" then maybe you're rushing and not thinking about the long-term implications of what you're doing.
i don't see that it has to impact the MARRIAGE at all. the marriage is the life you're going to have. focus on that and let the lawyers worry about the contract.
but then, i have weird views on marriage and what it should be. and i don't care if i never do it.0 -
I had just about nothing and a 30k a year job when we got married. No need for one.
If I had a family fortune or say a house or two that I OWNED, not paying 99% interest on, sure might be a good reason to have one.
Great opportunity to steal from Chris Rock:
"Now if you make $50 million and your wife wants half that's alright! You ain't starvin'. But if you make $30,000.. and your wife wants $15,000.. you might have to kill a b*^ch! I'm not moving back in with my mother because you ain't in love!"0 -
Christian didn't make Ana sign one. :laugh: *ducking*0
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I had just about nothing and a 30k a year job when we got married. No need for one.
If I had a family fortune or say a house or two that I OWNED, not paying 99% interest on, sure might be a good reason to have one.
Great opportunity to steal from Chris Rock:
"Now if you make $50 million and your wife wants half that's alright! You ain't starvin'. But if you make $30,000.. and your wife wants $15,000.. you might have to kill a b*^ch! I'm not moving back in with my mother because you ain't in love!"
perfection!!
also, what's wrong w/ ironing out these details when you're not both in the middle of rage and greif?0 -
If there is a prenup involved on his side or mine I wouldn't see the point of getting married. Its all or nothing as far as I'm concerned.0
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It's between the two people getting married. It's nobody else's place to suggest they get one, particularly the groom's parents, and especially when I make more than he does...
wait, now it's getting personal. Carry on....
LMFAO :smooched:0 -
I'd sign one.
I come to the table with nothing... including being debt free. I'm good with me as is and need nothing from dude.
Then again, I'm not so keen on marriage sometimes.0 -
Knowing what I know now, you bet your *kitten* I will. I lost a lot - and for there record, some men take more than their share too, it's not just women.0
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It's between the two people getting married. It's nobody else's place to suggest they get one, particularly the groom's parents, and especially when I make more than he does...
wait, now it's getting personal. Carry on....
HAHA.
if there are major assets one is bring into the marriage such as a business. It ALSO protects the person who is coming in with nothing. If he owns a house or business and defaults, you can squirm your way out so you're not penalized with a bankruptcy if he files after the divorce0 -
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I think it really depends on the relationship.
I've had this conversation with my boyfriend (we've been together for almost 7 years) and we came to the conclusion that what's ours is ours...I'd only take what I paid for and him the same. Not to say that we're expecting to break up, but we're even looking into buying a second house and renting it out in case it comes down to that, so we'd each have our own place with our own crap.
Even if things somehow became bitter between the two of us, we're not heartless enough to involve a lawyer to help either one of us claim what isn't ours.
...I'm assuming that pinky promise is legal enough.0 -
Personally... no. I trust my spouse and trust our relationship and wouldn't want that kind of thing hanging over our relationship.
However, if people are in line to make a lot of money in their future, either from working, inheritance, what have you, I don't think it's a bad idea. Divorce is all-to-common in our society and it never hurts to prepare yourself, especially if you have any kind of doubts about your relationship.0 -
Better to have one and not need it, then to need it and not have it.
We don't have one.0
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