Anyone else do alternate day Intermittent Fasting?

hmmm..i sincerely hope you rethink this plan. especially if you have any propensity to develop an eating disorder.

Sweetheart, that is the craziest thing I've ever read xx

crazy because you wouldn't be likely to develop an eating disorder or crazy because you think that the plan, in general, isn't likely to be problematic.

You shouldn't be so quick to judge. Intermittent fasting, though not for everyone, is a very healthy thing to practice. If you don't believe me, then try Googling it. It is not an eating disorder.

You don't see a problem with purposely forcing yourself to go without food? I can't imagine why people chose to endure hunger for the sake of weight loss, when it's completely unnecessary.

That's not how it works. You're misinformed. You're suppose to be counting your calories and protein intake for 2 days instead of one. For instance, if i fast tomorrow then I will normally eat 4 to 5k calories for two days.

I know exactly how IF and alternate day fasting works. Not only do I work part time at a gym as a trainer, I've got my Master's Degree in Food and Nutritional Sciences and work in the Food Industry. So please, spare me the lesson.

So how am i starving myself if I'm eating all my calorie and protein requirement in one setting? Fear monger?

Again, you've demonstrated your lack of reading comprehension skills. Please point out where I said starving is the same thing as IF or ADF. It's not the same. Starvation is the result of severe malnutrition, the result of extended caloric, vitamin and mineral deficiency. Very different than IF and ADF which are self induced short term intervals of abstaining from food with the goal of fat loss and minimizing muscle loss. Both are achieveable without fasting so why bother?

hmmm..i sincerely hope you rethink this plan. especially if you have any propensity to develop an eating disorder.

Sweetheart, that is the craziest thing I've ever read xx

crazy because you wouldn't be likely to develop an eating disorder or crazy because you think that the plan, in general, isn't likely to be problematic.

You shouldn't be so quick to judge. Intermittent fasting, though not for everyone, is a very healthy thing to practice. If you don't believe me, then try Googling it. It is not an eating disorder.

You don't see a problem with purposely forcing yourself to go without food? I can't imagine why people chose to endure hunger for the sake of weight loss, when it's completely unnecessary.

That's not how it works. You're misinformed. You're suppose to be counting your calories and protein intake for 2 days instead of one. For instance, if i fast tomorrow then I will normally eat 4 to 5k calories for two days.

I know exactly how IF and alternate day fasting works. Not only do I work part time at a gym as a trainer, I've got my Master's Degree in Food and Nutritional Sciences and work in the Food Industry. So please, spare me the lesson.

So how am i starving myself if I'm eating all my calorie and protein requirement in one setting? Fear monger?

Again, you've demonstrated your lack of reading comprehension skills. Please point out where I said starving is the same thing as IF or ADF. It's not the same. Starvation is the result of severe malnutrition, the result of extended caloric, vitamin and mineral deficiency. Very different than IF and ADF which are self induced short term intervals of abstaining from food with the goal of fat loss and minimizing muscle loss. Both are achieveable without fasting so why bother?

Depends on the person. I don't like eating 5 times a day because eating multiple small meals throughout the day makes me hungrier and more prone to cheat as the taste of food makes me wants to just eat more then just 300 calories at a time. Having to put something in my mouth every 3 to 4 hours triggers my taste buds and it's almost like an addiction that is hard to control when it occurs 5 to 6 times during the day.

Again, you've demonstrated your lack of reading comprehension skills. Please point out where I said starving is the same thing as IF or ADF. It's not the same. Starvation is the result of severe malnutrition, the result of extended caloric, vitamin and mineral deficiency. Very different than IF and ADF which are self induced short term intervals of abstaining from food with the goal of fat loss and minimizing muscle loss. Both are achieveable without fasting so why bother?

Isnt starvation a lack of food up to and exceeding 72 hours?
WTF is this other guy talking about?
O.o

In bro science maybe but nutritional journals defines starvation as eating less then 50% your maintenance. Eating all your calories and protein in one setting is not a starvation diet until you dip below that 50%.

hmmm..i sincerely hope you rethink this plan. especially if you have any propensity to develop an eating disorder.

Sweetheart, that is the craziest thing I've ever read xx

crazy because you wouldn't be likely to develop an eating disorder or crazy because you think that the plan, in general, isn't likely to be problematic.

You shouldn't be so quick to judge. Intermittent fasting, though not for everyone, is a very healthy thing to practice. If you don't believe me, then try Googling it. It is not an eating disorder.

You don't see a problem with purposely forcing yourself to go without food? I can't imagine why people chose to endure hunger for the sake of weight loss, when it's completely unnecessary.

That's not how it works. You're misinformed. You're suppose to be counting your calories and protein intake for 2 days instead of one. For instance, if i fast tomorrow then I will normally eat 4 to 5k calories for two days.

I know exactly how IF and alternate day fasting works. Not only do I work part time at a gym as a trainer, I've got my Master's Degree in Food and Nutritional Sciences and work in the Food Industry. So please, spare me the lesson.

So how am i starving myself if I'm eating all my calorie and protein requirement in one setting? Fear monger?

Again, you've demonstrated your lack of reading comprehension skills. Please point out where I said starving is the same thing as IF or ADF. It's not the same. Starvation is the result of severe malnutrition, the result of extended caloric, vitamin and mineral deficiency. Very different than IF and ADF which are self induced short term intervals of abstaining from food with the goal of fat loss and minimizing muscle loss. Both are achieveable without fasting so why bother?

Depends on the person. I don't like eating 5 times a day because eating multiple small meals throughout the day makes me hungrier and more prone to cheat as the taste of food makes me wants to just eat more then just 300 calories at a time. Having to put something in my mouth every 3 to 4 hours triggers my taste buds and it's almost like an addiction that is hard to control when it occurs 5 to 6 times during the day.

It sounds like you may have a mental disorder if you're affraid of losing control while you eat. A person that has a healthy relationship with food shouldn't be comparing eating to having an addiction and having a hard time to stop eating after tasting something. And it's those types of fears of eating which can screw with people mentally and lead to eating disorders.

Anyone that thinks you can't train fasted probably hasn't tried it. People have been fasting for religious purposes for a very long time without adverse effects. Look at the studies done on athletes that were fasting for Ramadan ... and they couldn't even have water. As long as I am hydrated I can keep up with anyone I normally train with whilst I am fasting and they are not.

hmmm..i sincerely hope you rethink this plan. especially if you have any propensity to develop an eating disorder.

Sweetheart, that is the craziest thing I've ever read xx

crazy because you wouldn't be likely to develop an eating disorder or crazy because you think that the plan, in general, isn't likely to be problematic.

You shouldn't be so quick to judge. Intermittent fasting, though not for everyone, is a very healthy thing to practice. If you don't believe me, then try Googling it. It is not an eating disorder.

You don't see a problem with purposely forcing yourself to go without food? I can't imagine why people chose to endure hunger for the sake of weight loss, when it's completely unnecessary.

That's not how it works. You're misinformed. You're suppose to be counting your calories and protein intake for 2 days instead of one. For instance, if i fast tomorrow then I will normally eat 4 to 5k calories for two days.

I know exactly how IF and alternate day fasting works. Not only do I work part time at a gym as a trainer, I've got my Master's Degree in Food and Nutritional Sciences and work in the Food Industry. So please, spare me the lesson.

So how am i starving myself if I'm eating all my calorie and protein requirement in one setting? Fear monger?

Again, you've demonstrated your lack of reading comprehension skills. Please point out where I said starving is the same thing as IF or ADF. It's not the same. Starvation is the result of severe malnutrition, the result of extended caloric, vitamin and mineral deficiency. Very different than IF and ADF which are self induced short term intervals of abstaining from food with the goal of fat loss and minimizing muscle loss. Both are achieveable without fasting so why bother?

Depends on the person. I don't like eating 5 times a day because eating multiple small meals throughout the day makes me hungrier and more prone to cheat as the taste of food makes me wants to just eat more then just 300 calories at a time. Having to put something in my mouth every 3 to 4 hours triggers my taste buds and it's almost like an addiction that is hard to control when it occurs 5 to 6 times during the day.

It sounds like you may have a mental disorder if you're affraid of losing control while you eat. A person that has a healthy relationship with food shouldn't be comparing eating to having an addiction and having a hard time to stop eating after tasting something. And it's those types of fears of eating which can screw with people mentally and lead to eating disorders.

Ad hominem. What eating disorder are you talking about and what does "healthy" mean? Is there a definition in any nutritional journal that as a clear cut definition of eating "healthy"? What you don't seem to understand is that there are many diets on the market ranging from PSMF, IF, Victoria Secret Diet, South Beach Diet, Aktins Diet, and the traditional eat 5 times a day diet. So which diet works? They all do because each and every single diet on the market has a success story. What matters the most is finding a diet that works best for the person as there is no such thing as a magical diet.

Anyone that thinks you can't train fasted probably hasn't tried it. People have been fasting for religious purposes for a very long time without adverse effects. Look at the studies done on athletes that were fasting for Ramadan ... and they couldn't even have water. As long as I am hydrated I can keep up with anyone I normally train with whilst I am fasting and they are not.

Who said anything about not being able to do fasted cardio?
Of course it can be done.

I'm rather sure the intermittent fasting touted on lean gains is an 18:4 or 16:8 regimen NOT every other day fasting. quite a difference. I'd much rather not compromise my training by being incredibly weak on fasting days--and instead do a 16:8 or something similar so that my energy levels don't plummet and I can actually maintain strength and LBM. I highly doubt that an individual fasting every other day would be able to maintain a comparable intensity during their workouts if they are FASTING every other day.

In response to LOVE4Fitness - I only tried alternate day fasting for 1 week so I am hardly an expert, but I was really physically active that week and I had to count my exercise calories to stick to 800 calories on my fast days (which is still 200 calories higher that they recomend for fasts). I also did not eat as much as I could of on my up calorie days. So you are correct, it is very difficult to be physically active and fast every other day. For people who have desk jobs, it might be perfect.

In response to LOVE4Fitness - I only tried alternate day fasting for 1 week so I am hardly an expert, but I was really physically active that week and I had to count my exercise calories to stick to 800 calories on my fast days (which is still 200 calories higher that they recomend for fasts). I also did not eat as much as I could of on my up calorie days. So you are correct, it is very difficult to be physically active and fast every other day. For people who have desk jobs, it might be perfect.

Thank you. My point exactly. I workout and physically active every day-id die on a regimen like that. I do fasted cardio as well but complete fasting is not conducive to an intense workout.

In response to LOVE4Fitness - I only tried alternate day fasting for 1 week so I am hardly an expert, but I was really physically active that week and I had to count my exercise calories to stick to 800 calories on my fast days (which is still 200 calories higher that they recomend for fasts). I also did not eat as much as I could of on my up calorie days. So you are correct, it is very difficult to be physically active and fast every other day. For people who have desk jobs, it might be perfect.

Thank you. My point exactly. I workout and physically active every day-id die on a regimen like that. I do fasted cardio as well but complete fasting is not conducive to an intense workout.

Is this thread for you to state that fasted cardio is perfectly fine as long as someone doesn't fast longer than you do?

Clearly I was saying that it would not work for me--and it compromising the intensity of one's workout is something to consider.,