What behaviour/attitude led you down the fat path?
EvgeniZyntx
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I have a brother that is morbidly obese (he must weigh well above 300 lbs and he is about 5ft9) and I worry about him. We've had discussions about his lifestyle choices, health education, genetics and our attitudes and behaviours towards our bodies. But for the time being he is not doing much about it. He "likes life too much" meaning he likes food.
He's basically a fatalist at this point and the only motivation he gets is when he suffers and gets deeply scared - pneumonia and a hospitalization got him to quit smoking. His other motivation is competition with his two brothers (:devil: - so one of the reasons I'm working on myself is that he will be pushed to do something himself when we plan something together).
But something I struggle to understand is how we let ourselves go that level? Help me to understand that, please.
He's basically a fatalist at this point and the only motivation he gets is when he suffers and gets deeply scared - pneumonia and a hospitalization got him to quit smoking. His other motivation is competition with his two brothers (:devil: - so one of the reasons I'm working on myself is that he will be pushed to do something himself when we plan something together).
But something I struggle to understand is how we let ourselves go that level? Help me to understand that, please.
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Everyone has a tipping point. For some its at 5lb gain, for others it the BMI of 50/third heart attack/need to bariatric care/not being able to fit into a normal MRI scanner.0
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For me it's just the voice inside myself that tells me that no matter what - I will Fail again...0
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Everyone has a tipping point. For some its at 5lb gain, for others it the BMI of 50/third heart attack/need to bariatric care/not being able to fit into a normal MRI scanner.
Or death... Why is that though? How on earth do you ignore everything becoming increasingly difficult for so long? I have asked this on the forums many times so I'm interested to see what replies you get.0 -
I knew the risks of being morbidly obese, but I was just in denial that those things would happen to me.0
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I had a very severe bout of depression that turned me from an athletic individual into a recluse that only left the house to buy food
Several years later I came out of the depression to discover I was fat... Took another 3yrs to really put my heart and soul into losing the fat.0 -
Even to gain 30lb I told myself a lot of excuses. I told myself it was normal with age, with having a baby, with stress, whatever. But then I realised that, with a waist two sizes bigger than my hips, jeans were never going to fit, so I'd have to lose weight to ever wear jeans again. Maybe if I'd expanded more uniformaly I would have continued to gain...0
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I just thought I was invincible, and that it wouldn't happen to me.
I was a high school athlete and I ate what I wanted, when I wanted, and how much I wanted without really worrying about it too much. I had my "fat" moments, but I knew I was a healthy weight and that it was only vanity pounds I was caring about.
Then I got to college and continued the same behavior while burning far less calories. Because of the way I'm shaped, my pants size barely changed from 150-200 pounds (from a loose 12 to a tight 14) People say go by the way your clothes fit...well sometimes your clothes can fit the same over 20 pounds! Plus I didn't have a scale and was consuming 2000+ extra calories on top of my 2500+ daily diet of anything I wanted...I'm surprised I didn't actually explode. Nobody ever mentioned my weight gain (except my grandmother...and that's what grandmothers do, lol). I knew I was getting bigger but had no clue till I stepped on the scale and saw a 2 in front of the number. That week I joined Weight Watchers.0 -
I'm new here, but for myself, it's always been habits basically. I found myself eating even when I wasn't hungry or justifying overeating by saying I'd go run, then not doing anything active (or when I did active things, it just killed me). It's really all about habits. 14 little days of working = new habits. It doesn't take a radical change. It sounds like he really just likes food a lot - I did too, and convinced myself that the fast food, or fried foods, etc.. What really also helps in terms of competitiveness is other people you know trying to lose weight, and for me, playing recreational sports. Have him come out and play basketball or tennis or something like that.0
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It sounds so stupid now that I've thought about it, but when I was a kid my mother would eat tons of fast food and yummy (to kids) junk food, and she NEVER let us kids have it. She would literally eat it in front of us, but say we weren't allowed to have any of it.
So of course now that I'm an adult, I can eat whatever I want, whenever I want. Now I'm 70lbs overweight and learning to balance that freedom to do whatever I want, with the responsibility of taking care of my body so that I don't end up with heart disease and diabetes like my mother.0 -
I was a manager for awhile, always going to meetings, with food in my hand, or drinking lots of soda, and then planting down at a desk for the remainder of the day. I'd get home to supper....be exhausted and sleep...I never excercised...I jumped 20 lbs in a single month.....then my Dr gave me the speech about living past 60...... I caught on...I've been worlking at it since0
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I like food. No, sorry, LOVE food. Food wasn't an energy source for me but something I just enjoyed. I could eat alone, in a group, with a partner etc.
I reached my tipping point when I was trying on a dress at a store I usually buy clothes from. I would usually fit in a 16 but I struggled zipping up the dress and I couldn't believe all the rolls of fat I had when I looked at myself in the mirror. I was disgusted at how I looked and could not believe I had let myself go so much.0 -
I can only speak for myself. I am an introvert and like nothing better than curling up with a good book. Exercise - especially team sports - turn me right off. I was always thin up until I got pregnant. The day I found out I was pregnant I quit smoking cold turkey, plus I had a sedentary job. Put all those together and you're looking at weight gain.
I added even more weight when I had my second child. The fact that I was working full time and was out of the house a few nights a week for meetings meant little time to think about exercise. The weight gain just builds. We humans are very good about fooling ourselves. I really believe we can indulge in our favourite foods every now and again without worry - but it's interesting how often "now and again" can become. Plus we don't think we really eat all that much.
There comes a day when we just say "Enough" and then we're ready to make a change. It's different for everyone, but that person has to realize it. No one else can do it for them.0 -
I was just talking about this with a friend the other day at the gym.
I realized that my fat path had everything to do with my attitude towards my parents. If I would gain a few pounds as a teenager, my step-father would put me on "sugar restriction" meaning that I couldn't have ANYTHING with sugar in it (not even a slice of bread). Which was ironic because he would eat a family size pack of peanut M&Ms every night (but I digress). So, to spite him, I would sneak in all the sugar I wanted. I would drink a ton of chocolate milk when he wasn't looking and hide the glasses in my dresser drawers until I could sneak them safely to the kitchen. When I started driving, I would stop by McDonalds and grab 3 cheeseburgers and a large fry and eat it all...just to spite him, not because I really wanted it.
Then, every time he would mention my weight, even into my 20's, I would turn around and eat, because it was a big FU to him.
One day, I realized the only person that I really hurt by my attitude was me. I don't want to be fat or unhealthy just to spite someone. From then on, it was all about my attitude about myself. I love the congrats I hear about losing weight, I love all the kudos I get and I was even called skinny the other day but NONE of that matters. What matters is what I think of ME. And now I can proudly look in the mirror and say that I am doing this! I am finally proud of what I've accomplished! I am a beautiful and strong woman and no matter what ANYONE says, they can't take that away from me. It's all the motivation I need!0 -
My problems started when I was in grade school. My mom had a lot of mental health problems that kept her from working and forced us to live on state aid. On top of that, she had this weird fear of growing old. She kept young friends, dated as much as possible, was obsessed with her weight, her skin, and her hair and made a lot of comments about my weight growing up. We didn't have a lot of food in the house ever because most of the state assistance went to buying food for when she had friends over.
Since many nights we would go without food to help us "manage" our weight or because there was no money left, I developed very bad habits. I got free lunch at school and would eat as much food as my free lunch allowed. When I'd go to my grandparents or on my nights at my dad's house I'd eat everything they put in front of me and usually raided the fridge for more when they weren't looking. Even after I moved in with my dad in high school and she later passed away, I still had these binging habits. When I got a job and discovered how awesome eating out was, things got worse.
It's always been a struggle to maintain a healthy relationship with food. The idea of leaving something on the plate used to make me panic. I didn't want to stop eating. My problem was never snacking, candy,or desert. It was always portion control and knowing when to accept feeling full and there'd still be food tomorrow.
Some of those issues still linger, but really, now I'm just undoing a lot of damage. I've learned to be ok with leaving one final bite on my plate. I love food still though. LOVE food. I love ethnic food and trying new things and discovering new flavors. I'm learning to find an appropriate middle ground. And of course, once you're big, the working out part is so much harder. It's much easier to not go to the gym than to go to the gym when everything you do there hurts.
That's my story. My tipping point came last year when my husband (who is not very overweight at all, but carries what weight he does have in his stomach) was diagnosed with type II diabetes. I could stand to lose 170 lbs and he's the one that got sick. I was fat, but healthy otherwise. I don't want to be sick. I don't want to break my body irrevocably. And my choices, my food and activities, directly effect him. He needed to be healthy right NOW and I didn't have much longer to let things slide. Fortunately our changes have slimmed me down and he has been able to stop all medications but 1 and we're very close to him not needing that anymore either.0 -
Food made me happy.
I love it. I still love it...all of it.
I hate sweat and exercise...and anything requiring physical effort to be in pain.
I still love food and hate exercise but I call it by other names. Awesome back road bike rides are fun. Hiking to the waterfall is fun. Exercise...not fun. Lol
And my love of food has been overshadowed by my love for my husband...and kids...and friends...and being around them. Food is a side dish...not the main event.0 -
Food was always very limited at my house, my parents limited everything, put small portions on our plates. They even limited the amount of tea we got for dinner. As a treat we got 1 piece of chocolate maybe once a week, I always had the craving for more. The moment I moved out and bought my own food I ate whatever I wanted to fill these desires, that got me my first 15 kilos of extra weight.
Later on I noticed I am an emotional eater. Stress made me eat sweet, lots of sweet. I always felt better after that up to a certain point. I become sugar addicted. At that point I had 3 children, going for the fourth. I didn´t like myself anymore. I had ups and downs, weight loss, weight gains, excessive exercise, no exercise at all... I also develpoed a depression, big changing point in my life.
After my dads death in 2009 I decided to do something against it. I was at his funeral and it came to me, that I only have one life. Slowly but steady I looked for methods to break that vicious circle. I avoided contact with people that weren´t good for me, that brought me down, stressed me.
I feel better with that now and developed other methods to handle stress. Now I am at a point that I enjoy. I like myself, I do things I want to do, I don´t stress myself anymore for small things that dont count. Some chocolate in the evening does not freak me out anymore, I know there will be another day with another exercise and I enjoy it and feel good.0 -
For me it was seeing that I was 12 freakin pounds away from 300! In my mind I had convinced myself I was around 250. Bought a scale....that will never happen again....I may get fat again (who knows? But I hope not lol) but I will make sure that I know it this time at least so I have no option but to face it. 9 months later I am under 200 lbs for the first time in my adult life and I feel great!!!!! And I know that if I keep working hard it'll only get better from here!!!!!0
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I think it was an accumulation of many different types of attitudes and behaviours which got me to the point of being FAT.
Laziness - it was easier to eat out than to cook.
Binge eating - if a little tasted good, then more tasted better - I didn't know when to stop.
Emotional eating - trying to fill the empty void with food didn't work, but it took me years to realise that.
Denial - I think I deep down KNEW what I was eating wasn't good and that I was gaining weight, but it was much easier to blame it on pregnancy or work stress than to just stand up, face it and take responsibility.
My turning point was the day in the change rooms that a size 16 wouldn't fit. I looked, really LOOKED, at myself in the change room mirror and had a melt down. That was it. There was no going back.
I sobbed all the way home and then took a deep breath and started moving forward. I've never looked back, and even though I've had the occasional few months when I let things slip and forget to put ME first, I now have the tools and motivation to be able to remedy the gain and get back on track.
From 200's down to 130's.
I truly believe that a recovering FAT person is like a recovering alcoholic. Never truly cured, but constantly taking pro-active steps further away from the destructive behaviours.0 -
mine came from years of sexual harrassment and abuse in the miltary... after i got out i was angry and depressed i never seeked any help of any kind n my weight went on and on till now where arseholes fuel my fire and drive me to lose the weight and then throw it back in the f'ing faces!0
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Moving back in with my boyfriend and allowing him to turn me into Betty Crocker... That and 6 cups of soda a day. I love food but after this I shall not ever abuse it again lol my Betty Crocker days are over -_0 my breaking point was when a photo was taken of me on my birthday with a friend. Need less to say as much as I was In denial that photo slapped me out of it I cried for a week straight.. He mde me look like I ate doughnuts for a living.. after loathing in self pity I got on my old mountain bike and vowed to ride that b*tch out until the wheels fall off ❤ lol0
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I was fat all my life. Because I didn't understand even the basics. I never knew anything about BMR, TDEE, calories, sodium, carbs, exercise calories etc.
I'd happily consume coke, sandwiches sit on my *kitten* playing video games for years on end with no exercise.
I actually hated people that ate fruits and vegetables and went to gym and worried about their weight. Non smokers, non drinkers. Non gamers. They were noobs, idiots. Sheeple. People that were vain stuck up fools that only cared about their looks because of propaganda fashion on TV. That was how I actually thought. That was how I got to 300lb. Apathy, ignorance and denial.
If I knew then what I know now. I never would have got that big. Now that I understand this stuff, sure I binge sometimes. But generally I'm trending toward massive weight loss. And I know in 4-8 months I will reach my goal and go beyond that.I got on my old mountain bike and vowed to ride that b*tch out until the wheels fall off ❤ lol
I wish I was that mountain bike.0 -
severe depression. i can't even begin to explain why on here, too personal. but it got worse and worse over the course of a year and a half. i totally isolated myself. in the darkest time, i lay on a couch for days straight only getting up to use the bathroom and answer the door for food delivery. i ate and ate until i got sick then ate more.0
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severe depression. i can't even begin to explain why on here, too personal. but it got worse and worse over the course of a year and a half. i totally isolated myself. in the darkest time, i lay on a couch for days straight only getting up to use the bathroom and answer the door for food delivery. i ate and ate until i got sick then ate more.
^ this.0 -
A poor relationship with food from a very young age. Food was regarded as a reward, a treat, rather than fuel for the body. I got into a 'I've earned this' mentality very quickly. Cue binge-eating from the age of 11 that was noticed but left alone by my parents, and the weight steadily went on.
I was always praised for having a hearty appetite as a child and was told to clear my plate on all occasions. I was tall for my age, and carrying some fat, and dined out on that "puppy fat" for a very long time. You know you won't grow out of it when you're in your late teens; that's for sure.
As I got older, the classic of denial not just being a river in Egypt really kicked in. I was very quick to label myself as 'curvy', 'big-boned' (God, I hate those terms now). I was Amazonian, statuesque (which, when you consider I'm a distinctly average 5'5", is a crock). I carried it well (I look at photos now and realise how wrong I was).
Plainly put, I loved food more than I loved myself. More importantly, I loved food more than I hated being fat; being rejected by the opposite sex; being ostracised; and not being able to shop in the same shops as my friends. That's a whole lotta (awful) love.0 -
Bad food education and apathy.
There was always unlimited supply of sweets, crisps, soda and cake in my house when growing up. Even though my parents didn't eat them. It became habit and apathy.
Even now it goes on.
I limit my child to this food without denying him, but i still argue with my Mum she believes that my child is missing out (even though he has sweets etc on a treat day). I say what is he missing out on obesity and diabetes. Even after he had 5 teeth removed because grandparents were filling him full of sweets and junk without my knowledge and after specifically being told not to.
HOW I LOST IT WAS THIS:
I have posted this a few times.
My train of thought and my main motivation for my loss:
Until I CHOOSE to stop living in DENIAL about being FAT, I can then CHOOSE to do something about it, BY ACKNOWLEDGING that I was/am FAT and unhealthy I can CHOOSE to MOTIVATE myself.
This enlightenment came to me while working in an office with many other fat people except for the ultra fit manager.
Someone was saying that they hate being overweight as they ate a packet of crisps and a full fat fat coke, he simply said 'well its your CHOICE'
And he is 100% right in my opinion, we choose not to exercise and we choose not to eat right.
I find that harsh reality and being blunt motivates me.0 -
the thing is that weight generally goes on slowly so you don't notice it. So a couple of pounds a month every month and over a year a stone has been gained. A lot of people just brush it off with "it has been a stressful year at work/home/(fill in blank)" however they don't change their eating habits and before they know it they are classed as obese, lost all self esteem and eating junk food to feel better about themselves.
I am not saying this happens to everyone but I reckon many folk have been there and some stop it before it gets out of control and others don't until something scares them to stop.0 -
Reading through the replies so far it is clear that the mental and emotional aspects - from depression, revenge eating, education, disinterest are all huge parts of the "fat path". So a site like MFP addresses the physical aspects of weight loss (mostly) and fitness (barely) but fails to track and provide input or tools into the emotional and mental aspects, except of the community support which I recognize is a big plus. Education is also a huge element.
Thanks for the answers so far, they are eye openers.
As I think about this, I know I need to help my daughters have good attitudes about food and work on these aspects so that they have the tools to eat better too - not just restricting certain food types at the table.0 -
I was never any good at physical activity, and I have very poor motor coordination. Even in elementary school, people would make fun of me because I tripped a lot (especially when running), couldn't catch, and couldn't throw. Due to the teasing, I gave up trying to play the outdoor games that my peers enjoyed so much. I was 8 years old when I started becoming overweight.
Now, almost 14 years later, I'm still very uncoordinated, but at least I can walk all of the weight off. My doctor said running would ruin my knees and back because I"m so heavy, so all I CAN do is walk.
I lost 8 pounds doing so before weighing in for this site, actually.0 -
time to get honest:
i have a shady history with people and rejection. i started binging pretty bad after a past breakup. i saw my grandma yesterday and she was talking about how she doesn't even know if my mother is going to go to my wedding. note: my mother and i have no real issues, and we are not estranged.
that is just to paint a picture
i fill voids, with binging. trying to fill voids with happiness, but it isn't always easy.0 -
Reading through the replies so far it is clear that the mental and emotional aspects - from depression, revenge eating, education, disinterest are all huge parts of the "fat path". So a site like MFP addresses the physical aspects of weight loss (mostly) and fitness (barely) but fails to track and provide input or tools into the emotional and mental aspects, except of the community support which I recognize is a big plus. Education is also a huge element.
Thanks for the answers so far, they are eye openers.
As I think about this, I know I need to help my daughters have good attitudes about food and work on these aspects so that they have the tools to eat better too - not just restricting certain food types at the table.
Food is so emotional for so many folks. Raising your daughters to have a healthy attitude towards food AND their own bodies is one of the most important things you can do for them in such a hostile world. A number of us grew up in unhealthy homes with unhealthy habits, helping to lead us where we are. It didn't make us fat, but it made it easier to be fat. And worse than fat is the self-loathing that accompanies unhealthy minds.0
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