carbs from fruit
brookea87
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I always seem to be totaling high in carbs everyday but I noticed it's mostly from fruit. These carbs should be fine compared to white carbs (pasta, potatoes, etc), am I correct? I've heard some carbs are good. I just want to double check. Thanks!
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Once it hits your digestive system, your body turns it all to sugar and processes it the same....sugar is sugar. And yes, bread, pasta, potatoes are sugar once they hit your system. However the bread/pasta etc is more damaging to your health, but again, sugar is sugar.0
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I don't see from your diary where you are consuming an excessive amount of carbs? I see calories, fat, and protein that are probably too low, but not a high amount of carbs.
But to answer your question, fruit is more than carbs. It's good for you. Eat it. Potatoes and pasta aren't so bad either.0 -
and just to add....eating an apple is going to be much better for you than a piece of bread....there's really no nutrtional value in the bread (argue if you want)...so the apple is better for you.0
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Once it hits your digestive system, your body turns it all to sugar and processes it the same....sugar is sugar. And yes, bread, pasta, potatoes are sugar once they hit your system. However the bread/pasta etc is more damaging to your health, but again, sugar is sugar.
Carbs are carbs and sugar is sugar, but pasta and potatoes are damaging to your health? Hmm.0 -
and your diary shows your carbs relatively low for not doing low carb (I'm assuming you arent)....so I dont see a concern. If you ARE doing low carb, then your carbs may be high. So there you go.0
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Generally speaking most fruits contain complex carbs which are the more desirable of the two.If you're staying within your total calories and losing wight I wouldn't worry about it too much (if you're involved in endurance sports like running, biking etc carbs are your friend).0
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and just to add....eating an apple is going to be much better for you than a piece of bread....there's really no nutrtional value in the bread (argue if you want)...so the apple is better for you.
You're right. Bread has no nutritional value.
Ingredients in the bread I eat: Organic whole sprouted wheat*, organic flax (organic whole flax seeds*, organic ground flax seeds*), water, organic cane sugar*, vital wheat gluten, yeast, sea salt, cultured wheat, citric acid.
Nutrition Info:
Yeah... nothing good for you in that!0 -
i just went through you last week of entries and you only went over on carbs once....I consider that good!! I seem to go over every day between my fruit and my love of bread/pasta. I think you are doing just fine!0
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and just to add....eating an apple is going to be much better for you than a piece of bread....there's really no nutrtional value in the bread (argue if you want)...so the apple is better for you.
You're right. Bread has no nutritional value.
Ingredients in the bread I eat: Organic whole sprouted wheat*, organic flax (organic whole flax seeds*, organic ground flax seeds*), water, organic cane sugar*, vital wheat gluten, yeast, sea salt, cultured wheat, citric acid.
Nutrition Info:
Yeah... nothing good for you in that!
Your bread doesn't have any B12, I wouldn't eat it0 -
Once it hits your digestive system, your body turns it all to sugar and processes it the same....sugar is sugar. And yes, bread, pasta, potatoes are sugar once they hit your system. However the bread/pasta etc is more damaging to your health, but again, sugar is sugar.
Not all sugars are equal. Your body breaks them all down in different ways. Simple sugars, like the stuff you put in coffee, and what's in candy, breaks down super fast and gives you an insulin spike. Sugars in fruit, milk, and other natural products need to be broken down multiple times before your body can use them. They will not cause an insulin spike, and are much better for you.0 -
Once it hits your digestive system, your body turns it all to sugar and processes it the same....sugar is sugar. And yes, bread, pasta, potatoes are sugar once they hit your system. However the bread/pasta etc is more damaging to your health, but again, sugar is sugar.
Not all sugars are equal. Your body breaks them all down in different ways. Simple sugars, like the stuff you put in coffee, and what's in candy, breaks down super fast and gives you an insulin spike. Sugars in fruit, milk, and other natural products need to be broken down multiple times before your body can use them. They will not cause an insulin spike, and are much better for you.
Sorry bud, fruits have simple sugars0 -
Generally speaking most fruits contain complex carbs which are the more desirable of the two.
This is wrong. Fruit contains SIMPLE carbs. Bread/pasta/cake contain complex carbs.0 -
and just to add....eating an apple is going to be much better for you than a piece of bread....there's really no nutrtional value in the bread (argue if you want)...so the apple is better for you.
What's that prayer again - Give us this day our daily fruit ? No, bread. A staple of many diets, 13% protein as opposed to practically 0% in an apple.
66 : 14 : 20 vs 95 : 3 : 2 - the only nutrition in an apple is the optional macronutrient - carbs.
"No nutritional value in bread" - is there no end to the **** that gets posted on this site ?0 -
I don't see from your diary where you are consuming an excessive amount of carbs? I see calories, fat, and protein that are probably too low, but not a high amount of carbs.
But to answer your question, fruit is more than carbs. It's good for you. Eat it. Potatoes and pasta aren't so bad either.
I agree with this.0 -
Once it hits your digestive system, your body turns it all to sugar and processes it the same....sugar is sugar. And yes, bread, pasta, potatoes are sugar once they hit your system. However the bread/pasta etc is more damaging to your health, but again, sugar is sugar.
Not all sugars are equal. Your body breaks them all down in different ways. Simple sugars, like the stuff you put in coffee, and what's in candy, breaks down super fast and gives you an insulin spike. Sugars in fruit, milk, and other natural products need to be broken down multiple times before your body can use them. They will not cause an insulin spike, and are much better for you.
Sorry bud, fruits have simple sugars
Also, lactose (milk sugar) is a simple carb.0 -
Your diet is low carb in the extreme! I get about 200 grams of carbs each day, and it's not hindering my progress in the least.
And as others have said, sugar is sugar. The only difference is the number of micro-nutrients you take in from different carb sources.0 -
and just to add....eating an apple is going to be much better for you than a piece of bread....there's really no nutrtional value in the bread (argue if you want)...so the apple is better for you.
What's that prayer again - Give us this day our daily fruit ? No, bread. A staple of many diets, 13% protein as opposed to practically 0% in an apple.
66 : 14 : 20 vs 95 : 3 : 2 - the only nutrition in an apple is the optional macronutrient - carbs.
"No nutritional value in bread" - is there no end to the **** that gets posted on this site ?
I agree with about bread, but apples do have vitamins and minerals and some fatty acids.0 -
Once it hits your digestive system, your body turns it all to sugar and processes it the same....sugar is sugar. And yes, bread, pasta, potatoes are sugar once they hit your system. However the bread/pasta etc is more damaging to your health, but again, sugar is sugar.
Not all sugars are equal. Your body breaks them all down in different ways. Simple sugars, like the stuff you put in coffee, and what's in candy, breaks down super fast and gives you an insulin spike. Sugars in fruit, milk, and other natural products need to be broken down multiple times before your body can use them. They will not cause an insulin spike, and are much better for you.
Please quit posting misinformation.0 -
but apples do have vitamins and minerals and some fatty acids
0.4g of fats & fatty acids in 242g of apples (half a pound) vs 25g of sugar
19% of daily vit C, 7% of vit K, 5% of B6, others below 5%
Only potassium above 5% of DV at 7%
A single slice of wheat bread has several minerals at or above 5% of DV.
Fruit gets way to good a rap relative to its real merit, we've been brainwashed !0 -
Fructose (the naturally occurring sugar found in fruit) is a monosaccharide - in other words a simple sugar (the clue is in the mono prefix...)
However, it comes packaged with good stuff, including vitamins and fibre (which makes it harder to digest and therefore dampens its effect on blood sugar levels though admittedly not by a huge amount.)
Fructose is the optimal substance for topping up liver glycogen which when full sends a stop eating signal to the brain (making fruit rather hard to over eat unless you are purposefully stuffing your face with it)
As an average about 50 - 60 grams of fructose is not going to trouble normal individuals without relevant medical conditions (hyperinsulinemia or hypertriglyceridemia.) To put this into context you will be needing to eat about over 8 - 10 servings of fruit a day before starting to worry. Most people barely manage to eat 2-3 servings a day...
Eat fruit with a clear conscience. And carrots (but do limit fruit juice and dried fruit in all seriousness. You might as well eat chocolate instead...)0 -
As far as weight loss goes it doesn't matter.
As far as health goes of course the fruit is healthier. But it is the difference between simple carbs and complex carbs and your body needs some of both.0 -
So I'm guess from this thread that almost all foods have good AND bad carbs? Is this correct? I've been trying to stay away from breads, pastas, pototoes, etc all of which I love. Apparently I can still eat them just not as much or as often and still lose weight?0
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sugar is sugar.
and heroin is heroin...0 -
there are TWO TYPES of carbs...SIMPLE and COMPLEX
Fruits are SIMPLE
Pastas are COMPLEX
meaning?
Complex carbohydrates provide a slower and more sustained release of energy than simple carbohydrates.
(complex take longer to DIGEST vs simple)
Simple carbs provide instant energy
Complex provide energy for the long haul
(mother of a type I diabetic for the last 14 years)0 -
So I'm guess from this thread that almost all foods have good AND bad carbs? Is this correct? I've been trying to stay away from breads, pastas, pototoes, etc all of which I love. Apparently I can still eat them just not as much or as often and still lose weight?
It's not so much "good" or "bad" carbs as items which cause you to over eat for various reasons (which include as much psychological reasons as physiological)
If you find that you can consume bread, pasta, rice, potatoes and they don't trigger you to over eat then by all means keep eating them. If they do trigger you then reduce or eliminate them.0 -
So I'm guess from this thread that almost all foods have good AND bad carbs? Is this correct? I've been trying to stay away from breads, pastas, pototoes, etc all of which I love. Apparently I can still eat them just not as much or as often and still lose weight?
What should be gathered from this thread is that are two different types carbs, but neither is inherently good nor bad. Moderation is key. If you like pasta, potatoes, and bread. Eat them. Fruits and vegetables are also very good for you. Eat them as well.0 -
Once it hits your digestive system, your body turns it all to sugar and processes it the same....sugar is sugar. And yes, bread, pasta, potatoes are sugar once they hit your system. However the bread/pasta etc is more damaging to your health, but again, sugar is sugar.
Untrue and stupid. First of all, some sugars are digested differently than others- a small amount of fructose can be processed by the liver, glucose cannot- just for an example. Second, there are multiple steps in the digestion of complex carbs vs simple sugars, so it's not like they're all immediately sugar when they hit your system. Eventually, all carbs break down to sugar, but the multiple digestive steps is what differentiates "complex" from "simple" carbohydrates. Finally, how EXACTLY are bread and pasta "damaging to your health"???? I notice you use the incredibly vague term "health" rather than specifying what exactly is so damaging, I'm assuming it's because you yourself don't actually understand what you've stated and you're just regurgitating the nutritional folk-lore presented by Dr. Oz and his cronies.0 -
Once it hits your digestive system, your body turns it all to sugar and processes it the same....sugar is sugar. And yes, bread, pasta, potatoes are sugar once they hit your system. However the bread/pasta etc is more damaging to your health, but again, sugar is sugar.
Untrue and stupid. First of all, some sugars are digested differently than others- a small amount of fructose can be processed by the liver, glucose cannot- just for an example. Second, there are multiple steps in the digestion of complex carbs vs simple sugars, so it's not like they're all immediately sugar when they hit your system. Eventually, all carbs break down to sugar, but the multiple digestive steps is what differentiates "complex" from "simple" carbohydrates. Finally, how EXACTLY are bread and pasta "damaging to your health"???? I notice you use the incredibly vague term "health" rather than specifying what exactly is so damaging, I'm assuming it's because you yourself don't actually understand what you've stated and you're just regurgitating the nutritional folk-lore presented by Dr. Oz and his cronies.
Obviously you haven't seen the commercial set forth by the sugar industry informing us all that sugar is indeed sugar. And its on TV so it can't be a lie... :laugh:0 -
Finally, how EXACTLY are bread and pasta "damaging to your health"???? I notice you use the incredibly vague term "health" rather than specifying what exactly is so damaging, I'm assuming it's because you yourself don't actually understand what you've stated and you're just regurgitating the nutritional folk-lore presented by Dr. Oz and his cronies.
It's the whole grains are bad for you spiel I am betting - you know lectin, gluten, phytates, that kind of thing.
Obviously, women in Italy are now shaking in their boots over their relative health status...0 -
Once it hits your digestive system, your body turns it all to sugar and processes it the same....sugar is sugar. And yes, bread, pasta, potatoes are sugar once they hit your system. However the bread/pasta etc is more damaging to your health, but again, sugar is sugar.
Untrue and stupid. First of all, some sugars are digested differently than others- a small amount of fructose can be processed by the liver, glucose cannot- just for an example. Second, there are multiple steps in the digestion of complex carbs vs simple sugars, so it's not like they're all immediately sugar when they hit your system. Eventually, all carbs break down to sugar, but the multiple digestive steps is what differentiates "complex" from "simple" carbohydrates. Finally, how EXACTLY are bread and pasta "damaging to your health"???? I notice you use the incredibly vague term "health" rather than specifying what exactly is so damaging, I'm assuming it's because you yourself don't actually understand what you've stated and you're just regurgitating the nutritional folk-lore presented by Dr. Oz and his cronies.
Obviously you haven't seen the commercial set forth by the sugar industry informing us all that sugar is indeed sugar. And its on TV so it can't be a lie... :laugh:
I get that you're being sarcastic and I am a giant stick in the mud for responding with a serious answer to this- but the point they're making is HFCS and cane sugar are the same- which is actually mostly true. The formulation of HFCS that is used in most food applications is HFCS-42, which is 42 %fructose, then there is HFCS-55 (55% fructose) which is sweeter than HFCS-42 and primarily used for making soda, and there's a third HFCS-90 which isn't used directly in food, but used primarily to make HFCS-55 from HFCS-42. Cane Sugar (table sugar) is 1 molecule of fructose attached to one molecule of glucose, so 50% fructose. So most of the "High" fructose corn syrup used for food isn't actually higher fructose than table sugar- it's kind of a misnomer. It's still not something that I want in my diet regularly, but in the case of the commercials for this one specific thing, they're actually right. They're chemically very similar.0
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